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Washington Post reads this thread and wrote an article on Defector's finances: https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...0358_story.html Highlights: The 20ish staffers make a minimum of $50,000 The founders got a 5% stake, new hires get a smaller stake, but an equal vote in major decisions. A 2/3 vote by the staff remove Lay as EIC. Subscriptions are the only revenue at this time PotatoJudge fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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PotatoJudge posted:Subscriptions are the only revenue at this time Huh? They used to have warby parker ads, and I thought the podcasts have ads too but those might just be direct to the hosts or something.
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The podcast definitely has ads, and it's also part of stitcher's premium service which I would assume they get something for. But yeah I guess maybe it all goes to Magary and Roth
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Feb 22, 2021 02:44
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Margaret Sullivan being a goon would be loving hilarious and great.
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i listened to the bill simmons/koc podcast where they discussed their all star picks as part of my campaign to know which media members are zach-positive and which must be destroyed and bill talked for 15 minutes about how he likes ben simmons because he plays basketball like his daughter plays soccer which is informed by the behavior of his dead dog rufus.
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It should be pointed out that some random dude who was browsing YouTube for Mariners content came across the video that eventually took down the team president: https://twitter.com/SeattleSunDvl/status/1363963066547720192?s=19
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FWIW at least on the tech side, 20-30% is closer than than 2x for calculating benefits. so 20 employees at 70k salary and 15k benefits/etc. for 85k fully burdened is 1.7m. Based on their sub numbers, adding in nominal hosting spend and a CMS and billing and etc, i think 2.3m is very feasible for them to be slightly profitable and hiring a couple folks. here's to hoping! it's great to see Laura Wagner join too
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https://twitter.com/slaternfl/status/1366456347848552449?s=21 https://twitter.com/limitlessjest/status/1366464696249802754?s=21 Watching Jane Slater (as well as the countless other old guard journalists who defend the practice)get dunked on for this today has been highly entertaining.
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you can see she comes from a super rich family in like paragraph 2 of her wikipedia how is she surprised people are pointing that out lol
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Mar 2, 2021 01:25
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But don't you understand, she worked haaaaard. Who cares that she could only do what she did because her family had money, she did it so why can't other people?! Maybe if they wanted these jobs they should have been born to wealthier families.
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Mar 2, 2021 01:29
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There is nothing these types gate more than people pointing out they might have been helped by stuff beyond their control
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That tweet sucks but I also wish I didn't have to read a million people dunking on her across like seven sites. I realize this is just because I read a lot of media criticism but still
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Mar 2, 2021 01:42
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Would bet anything her college job was studying at a desk in a computer lab, occasionally putting more paper/toner in a printer.
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quote:There is no NFL Combine this year, but the league needs to generate a distraction so that these reporters can stop spending time and effort on defending unpaid internships. Make the Seahawks trade Russell Wilson or something.
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Schremp Howard posted:https://twitter.com/slaternfl/status/1366456347848552449?s=21 Something about "my grandfather didn't have a degree but he made Wolf Brand Chili the OFFICIAL BOWL OF TEXAS" as an origin story is hilarious to me.
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https://twitter.com/emilymkaplan/status/1366375571933040641 hopefully ESPN will do a nice piece on the work of Curt Schilling next!
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/emilymkaplan/status/1366375571933040641 Fleury has said some ugly poo poo, but that's an unfair comparison in the sense that Fleury has actually done a lot work on behalf of abuse victims. Schilling just complains a lot.
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Fleury was sexually abused as a young man and it drove him into a deep pit of despair and depression which arguably led him to many of the issues he is known for. Schilling just became a psycho right wing MAGA freak on his own accord.
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Fleury shouldn't get a pass for promoting white supremacist conspiracy theories just because of his horrific past.
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Comparing Fleury to Schilling is apples and oranges. It's not that hard to acknowledge Fleury's problems while also recognizing his efforts towards mental health. E: And no that doesn't excuse Fleury's problems, before someone tries to say I'm dismissing those. DJExile fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Except that article does not acknowledge any of what makes Fleury super problematic. It promotes his new podcast about current events but fails to mention that he's promoting horrible things when talking about current events.
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Fridays at 5 Central the Defector crew plays trivia where someone on staff comes up with 10 categories, 5 questions each. I should start making it my switch to go full weekend mode, because it’s pretty drat delightful. Categories from yesterday I can remember are “Let’s remember some Guys” (famous people named Guy) and “stick to sports” where the clue is a Defector article, and the answer is the most popular comment given as a pun on “stick to sports.”
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They do some other stuff on their Twitch too sometimes. Last week Luis and Samer played this incredibly bad PS2 Sopranos game and it was a more compelling watch than it had any right to be.
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hcreight posted:They do some other stuff on their Twitch too sometimes. Last week Luis and Samer played this incredibly bad PS2 Sopranos game and it was a more compelling watch than it had any right to be. This sounds like Gaming Garbage but not incredibly annoying.
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I mean there a ton of gaming streamers like that. I think it might be the majority of streamers at this point
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the modern market landscape requires entertainers to cut off little pieces of their personality to sell people in order to make people engage in a parasocial relationship that engenders consumer loyalty there is no reason for a journalist of any stripe much less a sports/entertainment journalist to be required to produce additional mundane video content, and yet
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Declan MacManus posted:the modern market landscape requires entertainers to cut off little pieces of their personality to sell people in order to make people engage in a parasocial relationship that engenders consumer loyalty i mean they own the company no one is forcing them to do this. they're hanging out with their friends playing a video game which I assume is a thing they do anything, good for them it they can also monetize it
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seems like there's a ton of people leaving the ringer again, simmons is going to need to either have more nephews or put out a recruiting campaign to find people he can pay $13 per hour to crank out 8 blog posts a day about something called "wanda vision"
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R.D. Mangles posted:seems like there's a ton of people leaving the ringer again, simmons is going to need to either have more nephews or put out a recruiting campaign to find people he can pay $13 per hour to crank out 8 blog posts a day about something called "wanda vision" https://twitter.com/ryan_cortes/status/1367988107317030913?s=21
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All the most recent exits feel like they're going out or their way not to thank Simmons when they do their big "thanks for everything" tweet too. The open mic night thing and being petty about the union feel like a real turning point in how his staff views him, not that it really matters for him at all, he's got that spotify money
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What was the open mic thing
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Simmons defended hiring "names" to host Ringer podcasts instead of Ringer staffers because, "it's not open mic night" or words to that effect.
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howe_sam posted:Simmons defended hiring "names" to host Ringer podcasts instead of Ringer staffers because, "it's not open mic night" or words to that effect. I think it was in response to some staffers complaining publicly that the high profile podcasts like the rewatchables are basically always the same three guys (all in management) aside from the occasional big name outside guest rather than occasionally giving a shot to one of the lesser know members of the staff. His response is of course insane given that he regularly gives a podcast to his daughter and gave like four to his college buddy whose most interesting quality is "will sometimes order a very large meal" MourningView fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 7, 2021 |
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MourningView posted:his college buddy whose most interesting quality is "will sometimes order a very large meal" so what kind of nickname did this earn him
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Aye Doc posted:so what kind of nickname did this earn him I meant house which I think is a real name but who knows maybe there is a wacky vegas story (did you know he invented the idea of going to Vegas with your friends???) involved
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Speaking of people who write for the Ringer: https://twitter.com/nathanchubbard/status/1367955597560217601?s=21 At first I was annoyed when this was announced because there’s no one I would rather hear talk about Taylor Swift less than Simmons but then I saw it wasn’t actually him and I looked up the hosts and one of them is a Ringer staff writer who used to work for the Boston Globe which is whatever and the other is the former CEO of Ticketmaster, who is also a writer for The Ringer Why is the former CEO of Ticketmaster writing for The Ringer?
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DC Murderverse posted:Why is the former CEO of Ticketmaster writing for The Ringer? Well, uh... It's not open mic night?
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He's been on the podcast before too. He's buddies with Bill and might have been an early investor in the site.
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One of the first articles on The Ringer was about how StubHub is bad written by the former Ticketmaster CEO
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