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Roosevelt posted:i dont watch esports but i've seen pictures of the "champs" of dota tournaments and it's just 4 nerds i could take on single-handedly like that sculpture in norway that's the big guy beating rear end against a bunch of babies imo the most embarrassing thing about dota is when gaben flashed his gut in front of tens of thousands of people at the 2018 international (it happens in the first 10 seconds no need to watch the whole thing unless you like dota and gaben idk): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xYOmUwad0 he appeared again at the 2019 international but only showed a sliver of gut so i guess he learnt from his error
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Roosevelt posted:i dont watch esports but i've seen pictures of the "champs" of dota tournaments and it's just 4 nerds i could take on single-handedly like that sculpture in norway that's the big guy beating rear end against a bunch of babies
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Mar 5, 2021 18:17
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Casual Encountess posted:
dude on the left has big flight of the conchords energy
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Mar 5, 2021 18:20
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Pile Of Garbage posted:imo the most embarrassing thing about dota is when gaben flashed his gut in front of tens of thousands of people at the 2018 international (it happens in the first 10 seconds no need to watch the whole thing unless you like dota and gaben idk): the dpc format has made watching dota a treat though. people who are only pros in name getting a shot, trying wacky things. division 2 is where it is all at.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:21
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Overwatch once again proving that CS is the superior game.
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Casual Encountess posted:
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Casual Encountess posted:
it's really strange to see this stereotypical athletic uniform team photo but with a bunch of skinny nerds. like i'm just not used to seeing the clothes fitting that way. it's doing an uncanny valley thing. yeah, exactly
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Mar 5, 2021 18:28
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Pile Of Garbage posted:there's this YT channel about esports that i watch (the score esports) because it's just fascinating how insane everything is. specific to CS in the last decade there has been: 1 more big thing missed was that close to last year people discovered that there was a bug involving the coach's mode allowing you see the whole map while you're in the game and basically tell your players where people are. They did some digging and found that this bug existed for a couple of years and almost every team knew about it. It just wasn't disclosed until it came out in a big event.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:29
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So basically the last 3+ years of CSGO match results are in question.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:30
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also why are the teams all called generic lame poo poo like "uprising" and "fusion" instead of authentic gamer clan names i wanna see -=[YB]=- Yoda's Balls facing off against :.SB.: StonerBoyz
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Mar 5, 2021 18:32
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AnimeIsTrash posted:So basically the last 3+ years of CSGO match results are in question. if every team knew about the bug/feature and was using it does that really change anything?
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Mar 5, 2021 18:33
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Overwatch once again proving that CS is the superior game.  pasha
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Mar 5, 2021 18:39
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Sagebrush posted:if every team knew about the bug/feature and was using it does that really change anything? this is like allowing everyone in pro football to use steroids so it turns into NFL Blitz
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Mar 5, 2021 18:40
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wow, that sure would be bad. if professional athletes used steroids i mean. imagine how different the game would look.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:43
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AnimeIsTrash posted:So basically the last 3+ years of CSGO match results are in question. lmao yeah when i started typing my post i was thinking of that but forgot about it towards the end. truly a staggering gently caress-up
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Mar 5, 2021 18:55
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Sagebrush posted:wow, that sure would be bad. if professional athletes used steroids i mean. imagine how different the game would look.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:55
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i for one am seriously anticipating XFL 3
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Mar 5, 2021 19:02
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Sagebrush posted:if every team knew about the bug/feature and was using it does that really change anything? I imagine if you're playing for thousands of dollars and weren't using the bug you'd be pissed. Also i'm pretty sure there is a no abusing bugs/glitches clause built in when you play in tournaments.
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re the CS GO spectator mode exploit dealio, apparently they know who was taking advantage of it and issued sanctions to a bunch of coaches for abusing it (also i think valve VAC banned some of them): https://www.pcgamer.com/au/valve-bans-37-csgo-coaches-caught-cheating-with-a-spectator-bug/ also as i mentioned earlier a big match-fixing scandal came to light here in AU around the same time with 35 players receiving sanctions: https://www.pcgamer.com/au/35-csgo-players-banned-for-betting-on-matches/ the response to both of these issues came from the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) which has been around in one form or another since 2016 but only recently seems to have been getting proper recognition what with league franchise operators agreeing to support and enforce ESIC sanctions. they're basically the NCAA of esports. all they do is protect the image and reputation of stakeholders whilst doing gently caress-all for the players. the only progressive movement supporting players that i've seen is some renegade politician in SK who has made it his mission to advocate for esports players who get hosed over by their orgs.
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It's speculated a lot of matchfixing is going on in Dota right now because the amount you can make for fixing a match is often much more than you'd get for getting anything other than first place. One team got an offer for like $100k to throw.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I imagine if you're playing for thousands of dollars and weren't using the bug you'd be pissed. Also i'm pretty sure there is a no abusing bugs/glitches clause built in when you play in tournaments. well yeah but does the bug actually affect the outcome when everyone is using it and in the same way I guess then the argument is that they're playing a different game than intended so the results are still meaningless do big onstage esports tournaments not have referees? wouldn't it be obvious this was happening if someone had their eyes on all the competitor screens all or most of the time
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Mar 5, 2021 19:22
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FMguru posted:my favorite pro "athletes" are professional darts champions, every one of which looks like they earned their skills one pitcher of beer at a time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHnBppccI0o also my weird face recognition brain just pinged, is the judge who says 'game on' Jim Carter the actor who played 'Déjà Vu' in Top Secret! ..? edit: lol yes it is NoneMoreNegative fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:It's speculated a lot of matchfixing is going on in Dota right now because the amount you can make for fixing a match is often much more than you'd get for getting anything other than first place. One team got an offer for like $100k to throw. i don't doubt that all. in fact i'd go as far as to say that match-fixing is rife in all competitive esports. there have already been a bunch of scandals re match-fixing, some of which had links to organised crime. "ayyyy ohhh it's no big deal! we just want you to take a dive is all, for which you will be properly compensated. just do your usual picks, go mid and 'accidentally' feed, kapish?" haveblue posted:well yeah but does the bug actually affect the outcome when everyone is using it and in the same way tournaments always have refs however apparently the exploit worked in a way that they detect in real time. ESIC has a proper write-up regarding the exploit, they detected exploitation retroactively by analysing demo files from past matches, also crucially they could not definitely state whether or not players knew about the exploit: https://esic.gg/esports-integrity-commission-findings-from-investigation-into-csgo-spectator-bug-exploitation/. furthermore they were aware that the exploit had been reported to tournament admins as far back as 2017 lol ofc as i mentioned upthread ESIC exists more to protect the reputation of stakeholders than the actual integrity or fairness of the games. that isn't necessarily a bad thing but is worth remembering.
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also if we're talking about CS GO exploits then we gotta talk about the Olofboost. at the dreamhack winter 2014 quarter finals fnatic used an "exploit" on overpass to peek over the map geometry near CT spawn to get a clear line-of-sight for the entire north side of the map right next to T spawn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRY_TRipfpQ this helped fnatic win and got them through to the semi-finals but of course poo poo exploded. LDLC filed a complaint against fnatic accusing them of pixel-walking, then fnatic filed a complaint against LDLC also for pixel-walking. eventually the tourney organisers said that fnatic and LDLC would have to re-play the third game of the set however fnatic at that point forfeited. LDLC ended up going on through to the finals and winning. valve patched the exploit right after the tournament and put a sign at the spot on the map to commemorate it :3 
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Pile Of Garbage posted:i don't doubt that all. in fact i'd go as far as to say that match-fixing is rife in all competitive esports. there have already been a bunch of scandals re match-fixing, some of which had links to organised crime. Oh without a doubt, there is real money at steak now that you can bet on esport outcomes. I used to follow starcraft quite a bit and the match fixing scandals completely blew my mind. It wasn't till I got older and realized these folks were probably paid poo poo and there weren't any long term prospect so why not take the L and make some money. https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal
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Pile Of Garbage posted:imo the most embarrassing thing about dota is when gaben flashed his gut in front of tens of thousands of people at the 2018 international (it happens in the first 10 seconds no need to watch the whole thing unless you like dota and gaben idk): pannus powerup who gives a poo poo honestly, being fat is way less embarrassing than being a billionaire
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mediaphage posted:pannus powerup i kinda feel sorry for the guy, it really seems like he doesn't be up there on the stage, even more so the next year at the 2019 internationals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIqmEJMCRgQ dude was probably glad that covid gave him an excuse to not attend in 2020. ofc as you pointed and i agree rich people are the worst so gently caress em, i hope he falls down a storm drain.
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Pile Of Garbage posted:i kinda feel sorry for the guy, it really seems like he doesn't be up there on the stage, even more so the next year at the 2019 internationals: i'm certain that if he really didn't want to be there he wouldn't be, see: being obscenely wealthy and in charge
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I would like to retract my previous statement and say that there is one ok esport and it’s simracing it rules and if you’re good enough at it you can parlay that into a real racing career ain’t no madden player getting recruited into the nfl.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I would like to retract my previous statement and say that there is one ok esport and it’s simracing i endorse this statement as long as it doesn't include Zwift. what? it's a bicycle racing game which you control by pedalling an IRL bicycle. also it's become an esport. and the esport competition rules have the random power-up feature enabled so it's like mario kart (people have won events purely due to lucky power-ups). also in competitions players aren't given the same in-game bikes, they can choose from any that they've unlocked (via in-game challenges) and of course they have diff stats with some being clearly superior. inevitably this lead to a pro player cheesing an in-game challenge to unlock the best bike (challenge was to ride like 50km of some kinda elevation, dude just faked the bike inputs so the game thought he was riding full-speed forever). when tourney organisers found out about this he was disqualified lmao. Zwift is Shaggar: The Game. it makes cycling awful.
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Pile Of Garbage posted:also if we're talking about CS GO exploits then we gotta talk about the Olofboost. at the dreamhack winter 2014 quarter finals fnatic used an "exploit" on overpass to peek over the map geometry near CT spawn to get a clear line-of-sight for the entire north side of the map right next to T spawn: i watched this happen live and everyone was losing their minds lmao
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i watched an esports video once by accident and now my youtube recommendations are foreverially filled with videos of people having long debates about speedrunning "controversies"
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Sagebrush posted:wow, that sure would be bad. if professional athletes used steroids i mean. imagine how different the game would look. i mean if it was all of them using unlimited amounts vs the 25%-75% that are using and keeping it quiet currently
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lol linux and all that but this surprised me https://boilingsteam.com/7000-windows-games-working-on-linux-with-proton/
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