Civilized Fishbot posted:

Not always allowed in Judaism; Ashkenazi Jews can't eat rice, and no Jew can eat wheat, during Passover.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

I thought unleavened bread was ok?

Civilized Fishbot posted:

no Jew can eat wheat, during Passover.

Tias posted:

Aren't there a sect of radical Jain who, upon taking their vow, sits down in one place completely still without eating or drinking until they die?

Slimy Hog posted:

If we're using holidays as a metric then fasting periods such as Ramadan would mean the answer is "no"

BattyKiara posted:

You can still eat after sunset during Ramadan.

Slimy Hog posted:

That's kinda my point though, since Passover ends at some point too. If we're saying fasting/abstention periods count then there is no food that is outside a religion's rules.

I assumed you just meant foods like pork that religions ban the consumption of entirely.

Thirteen Orphans posted:

The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast.

Thirteen Orphans posted:

The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast.

Worthleast posted:

Ah good. Which holy city will it be held in?

Thirteen Orphans posted:

The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast.

CrypticFox posted:

We had a similar issue come up in the discord a while back when we were talking about getting a server icon so it didn't just say "RG," but no one could think of an appropriate ecumenical image to use.

Bar Ran Dun posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/arts/bible-deuteronomy-discovery.html?referringSource=articleShare

Worth a read.

Edit: Potentially the oldest Duet. source was labeled a forgery in the 1880’s but probably isn’t.

Rune Hjarnø posted:

1) It prevents the development of knowledge and thinking with weirdly anti-dogmatic dogma, that impedes thinking and dialogue, because positions can not really be assumed, tested against each other and developed. Someone will often close down the process of thought with some relativist dogma about agreeing to disagree. (this is an extremely prominent feature of DK heathens)
(Heathendom has to be ignorant – 2-0 to Charlemagne)

2) Then there is the whole Viking thing. Need I even say the word self-ridicule? - A good friend recently hit the nail on its head: “Its like wearing a banana skirt!”.- And here is an image of a contemporary scholar working on the moral philosophy of 18th century thinker Immanuel Kant - I wonder why he never got university tenure!
(Heathendom is ridiculous– 3-0 to Charlemagne)


this guy

3) There is an ideology of radical decentralizing and egalitarianism. This makes it difficult for anyone to build anything, because social positions and social structures are seen as inherently problematic. This devotion to non-structure is often expressed in explicitly Lutheran terms, as for instance the criticism of “Asa-popery”, which somehow condenses the notion that social structure in itself is evil.
(Heathendom is incapable of civilization - 5-0 to Charlemagne)
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Paradoxically, this anarchic node is followed by another internalization of Protestantism, and that is functionalism. Heathens constantly obsess about social structure and how their different structurings or non-structurings are really somehow the core of religiousity.

this gif was included below 3:


4) Anti-christianity also produces a horribly counterproductive relation to one’s own sources and religious tradition, i.e. the quest for pre-christianity. Here Christianity becomes a source of contamination to the imagined purity and cultural unambiguity of Heathendom. Many Heathens see valid knowledge mostly in one kind of scholarship. That is the kind that looks for historical evidence of pre-christian beliefs and practices. Out of methodological necessity this kind of scholarship is predicated on source criticism, because it’s sources are from Christianity-hybrid contexts and Christian biases of the data need to be identified and filtered out. Therefore it implies rejection of large part of tradition, because it’s hybrid character makes it difficult to discern what might be Christian.

The result is secluding Heathendom in an impossible sphere as a purely hypothetic, almost non-existant phenomenon, perpetually excluded from establishing any kind of credibility, because it’s only source of credibility is an essentially inattainable non-hybrid imagined past.
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aaaaaand the final score is - wait for it - here it comes:
7-0 to Charlemagne!


Later addendum:
I believe that consideration of these internalizations of Christian oppression have to be the starting point to produce contemporary Nordic religion

CrypticFox posted:

I don't think saying "probably isn't a forgery" is warranted yet, the claim is very controversial and rejected by most epigraphers. Christopher Rollstone, an epigrapher and expert on biblical forgeries, who is quoted in the article saying the documents are forgeries, wrote a much longer response on his blog about how weak the evidence in favor of authenticity is: http://www.rollstonepigraphy.com/?p=896. It's worth noting that all the most skeptical experts quoted in the NYT article are the actual epigraphers and paleographers, and the evidence presented in its favor is linguistic. Not to say that linguistic evidence is useless, especially in this case where that's the main piece of evidence available to work from due to the lack of the original manuscripts, but I am very skeptical about an epigraphic claim rejected by almost all epigraphic specialists.

CrypticFox posted:

We had a similar issue come up in the discord a while back when we were talking about getting a server icon so it didn't just say "RG," but no one could think of an appropriate ecumenical image to use.

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Thirteen Orphans posted:

Namo Trump Butsu

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

even the odious and obnoxious are valuable teachers of the dharma as they let us practice patience.

Tias posted:

A bunch of stuff

Lutha Mahtin posted:

this is an on trump, right?

quote:

There was a great Buddhist meditation teacher named Atisha who was traveling to Tibet to meet with the people there. He had heard that, in general, the people of Tibet were all very good-natured, open-minded, and flexible. He chose to bring with him a mean-tempered tea boy to keep himself “on his toes” and to stay aware. Tea ceremonies are generally intended to be peaceful, methodical, and slow-paced rituals which serve as a contemplative experience for those involved. The Bengali Tea Boy’s ceremonies were different. He broke dishes, threw plates, spilled the tea, shouted, and was quite annoying to all involved. His tea ceremonies were a chaotic mess. Nonetheless, the meditation teacher chose to continue to bring the Bengali Tea Boy with him wherever he went. When asked why he continued to employ this terrible tea boy, Atisha stated “I want him with me because he is my greatest teacher. He reminds me to be patient. He reminds me to be compassionate. And, he gives me many opportunities to practice tolerance.”

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

no this is a genuine Buddhist thing

quote:

Enemies have driven me into your embrace more than friends have.

Friends have bound me to earth, enemies have loosed me from earth and have demolished all my aspirations in the world.

Enemies have made me a stranger in worldly realms and an extraneous inhabitant of the world. Just as a hunted animal finds safer shelter than an unhunted animal does, so have I, persecuted by enemies, found the safest sanctuary, having ensconced myself beneath your tabernacle, where neither friends nor enemies can slay my soul.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

I thought unleavened bread was ok?

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

no this is a genuine Buddhist thing

Lutha Mahtin posted:

yeah it's a thing in christianity too, i was just being goofy about it

Lutha Mahtin posted:

as jesus said, "i was hungry and you gave me something to eat, i was a stranger and you invited me in, i melted tf down because you were out of the black friday doorbuster and you kindly informed me on how to send complaints to the customer service department."

WrenP-Complete posted:

The leavening process, according to rabbinical law, happens when a cereal grain (wheat, spelt, barley, rye, and oats) mixes with water and time, because of "air leavening" like how bread was leavened back in Torah times. If you make matzah before the time is up, you've created something made from those grains that isn't going to leaven.**
That's how matzah is permitted.

**Some Jews - like how Civilized Fishbot grew up also don't eat matzah+water ("gebrochts) because of a concern of some errant flour getting into the matzah making process.**

We are filming our teaching seder tomorrow, two weeks early. There's so much to do! Film crew coming over tomorrow afternoon! Praying for strength and stamina out here !

Organza Quiz posted:

I know the justification but it does always feel a bit strange to make kneidlach mix and then leave it for 90 minutes to rise before balling it up and boiling it so it swells up even bigger. Celebrating that time our ancestors had to get up and leave really quickly by making a dish that requires at least two hours of time!