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GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


I. M. Gei posted:

Are coffee bean roaster machines a thing I can buy?

Yes, depending on your budget

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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



GonadTheBallbarian posted:

Yes, depending on your budget

dang, I was thinking about maybe trying to build one, but now I guess there’s no point

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

aldantefax posted:

I normally use 30g for grinds but sometimes go higher to 40. I saw on spro's vid that it can only really hold 30?

I have a chestnut g1, which is apparently not the one that he was reviewing.

My g1 has no issues with 30g, although if you're going any higher you're going to have issues.

aldantefax
Oct 10, 2007

ALWAYS BE MECHFISHIN'
How much bean you wanna roast and what do you wanna spend? Home roasting is a burgeoning scene and places like Sweet Maria's has fantastic resources. Check out their site for more details.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
You can spend 10s of dollars on popcorn-based roasters, or a thousand or two on a fancy automated one.

the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey... :D

I. M. Gei posted:

Are coffee bean roaster machines a thing I can buy?

A lot of people go the dog bowl / heat gun road. I did, it's pretty low entry. Most people start with the popcorn machine method, then move up to the dog bowl.

I'd like a machine but $500 and up is kinda where it's at.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

I. M. Gei posted:

dang, I was thinking about maybe trying to build one, but now I guess there’s no point

https://www.amazon.com/Wabash-Valley-Farms-22000MG-Original/dp/B010TR1SMW/

Works fantastic. Roast up to a pound with no problems but you do have to stand there cranking it for 8-15 minutes.

Cheap and reliable but don't put it in your dishwasher ever.


edit : and you need a lot of ventilation or you will set off smoke detectors.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



I. M. Gei posted:

dang, I was thinking about maybe trying to build one, but now I guess there’s no point

If you have decent electronics skilz and maybe already have a Goodwill convection oven, you may be able to convert it, but that's dicey as heck. And as mentioned, you need garage or patio venting, imo as well.

Otherwise the popcorn popper is a go-to that won't break your budget.

P.S. Since you're kind of a target in the tools thread, I wanted to let you know I used my Ryobi 5gal sprayer on the fruit trees a few days ago to great success. 👍

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Was lead here from the kitchen equipment thread.

Recs on a good coffee grinder or a guide on how to properly make coffee? My wife has a French press that she uses once a day with Dunkin Donut's coffee grounds. She just received a gift of some fancy coffee beans and wants to know more about how to make a proper cup of coffee.

She's the only one that drinks coffee in the house so we're looking to just make 1-2 cups a day.

We're looking to spend maybe 50-100.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

https://www.baratza.com/shop/refurb

Baratza Encore here is $99 and the best overall value. It will handle anything except espresso.

Here's the french press recipe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Is it noticeably better than the Oxo Burr Grinder? Also if you're not supposed to plunge the strainer, why not just have a small strainer at the mouth of a spout instead of a whole plunger?

bamhand fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 8, 2021

Tochiazuma
Feb 16, 2007

I. M. Gei posted:

Are coffee bean roaster machines a thing I can buy?

I am enjoying the Freshroast SR540 I bought for about $250 Canadian last year, you can do about 4 oz (120g) of coffee at a time, takes about 10 minutes. It's basically a glorified air popper but has lots of adjustability for temperature and fan settings. Before that I was roasting on a baking sheet in the oven which made a lot of smoke and would set the fire alarm off in my bungalow a lot. The Freshroast doesn't have that problem, my range hood fan is good enough to wipe out what little smoke gets out of it.

I bought mine from these guys (looks like it's up to $270 Cdn now)
https://www.pre-umber.ca/products/freshroast-sr540

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Mu Zeta posted:

https://www.baratza.com/shop/refurb

Baratza Encore here is $99 and the best overall value. It will handle anything except espresso.


Was waiting for this to go back in stock. Thanks!

:coffee:

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

bamhand posted:

Is it noticeably better than the Oxo Burr Grinder? Also if you're not supposed to plunge the strainer, why not just have a small strainer at the mouth of a spout instead of a whole plunger?

You probably won't notice the difference with the Oxo grinder, but the benefit of the Baratza is that their grinders are much easier to repair if anything goes wrong. You can also pay a small amount to upgrade the burrs in the future if you ever really get into coffee.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

bamhand posted:

Was lead here from the kitchen equipment thread.

Recs on a good coffee grinder or a guide on how to properly make coffee? My wife has a French press that she uses once a day with Dunkin Donut's coffee grounds. She just received a gift of some fancy coffee beans and wants to know more about how to make a proper cup of coffee.

She's the only one that drinks coffee in the house so we're looking to just make 1-2 cups a day.

We're looking to spend maybe 50-100.


In addition to the Baratza, if she's only making for herself, a hand grinder would also do. Can't really go wrong with a Hario slim or plus, and a dose of French press is ground quickly.


I would recommend to reserve maybe 10 dollars or so for a digital scale if you don't have one. You don't need a fancy coffee scale for french press, just something that allows to to weigh with .1g precision. These scales can be had for under 10$ I think.


Making coffee in a french press is very straightforward. Pour water in and wait, then strain. James Hoffmann on YouTube has a more involved technique, but most of that is really only to filter out the fine grounds that might otherwise go into your cup. If you don't mind those, you can simply plunge down slowly after 4 minutes of those as the actual brewing process is finished by then.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

bamhand posted:

why not just have a small strainer at the mouth of a spout instead of a whole plunger?

In a press? I would imagine it would quickly clog. You can look at a drip coffee machine and see how long it takes for water to travel through the bed.

If it does pour still, I imagine you'll get a lot of coffee grounds being pushed through the sieve. That doesn't happen as easily when the grounds are at the bottom of the can. That's at least what I would expect.

PolishPandaBear
Apr 10, 2009

Lord Stimperor posted:

In a press? I would imagine it would quickly clog. You can look at a drip coffee machine and see how long it takes for water to travel through the bed.

If it does pour still, I imagine you'll get a lot of coffee grounds being pushed through the sieve. That doesn't happen as easily when the grounds are at the bottom of the can. That's at least what I would expect.

I thought also that once you compress the grounds, extraction is supposed to stop, or at least slow down a lot, since the water isn't freely intermingling with the grounds.

That way you don't need to pour the coffee into a separate vessel right away.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

PolishPandaBear posted:

I thought also that once you compress the grounds, extraction is supposed to stop, or at least slow down a lot, since the water isn't freely intermingling with the grounds.

That way you don't need to pour the coffee into a separate vessel right away.

Yeah I usually pour immediately just to be all precious about it, but pressing the grounds to the bottom probably does severely reduce the need to do that.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

:yum:



has science gone too far

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
The video that was posted earlier was saying you should only push the plunger to the surface of the water and no more.

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012

bamhand posted:

The video that was posted earlier was saying you should only push the plunger to the surface of the water and no more.

Hoffman's french press recipe is not a regular coarse ground french press recipe, it's a cupping recipe that happens to be made in a french press. It's very tolerant of technique, grind size, and timing - extraction tapers off dramatically once the crust is broken and there's no particular need to separate the grounds from the brew at any point up until it's poured. (You can pour it through a (pre-wetted) paper filter if you want a really clean tasting cup.)

NB there's not much extraction happening in a normal french press brew either after it's plunged. If it tastes more bitter after it's been sitting around a while, it's because it was bitter to begin with and you can taste the bitter flavors more easily when it's cooled down.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Mu Zeta posted:

:yum:



has science gone too far

I dunno, The Last of Us started with some Cordyceps.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mu Zeta posted:

:yum:



has science gone too far

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Isn't cordyceps the fungus that cause bugs to drown themselves and climb trees and poo poo. Also maybe what causes zombie poo poo in Last of Us? But yeah put that in my "milk."

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Isn't cordyceps the fungus that cause bugs to drown themselves and climb trees and poo poo. Also maybe what causes zombie poo poo in Last of Us? But yeah put that in my "milk."

Cordyceps is the genus, there are hundreds of species. Some are quite good for you, but most all are parasitic towards insects. It's pretty trippy.

And shouldn't that be called a juice? Mushroom and Oat juice, yum. Probably just earthy.

TheDarkFlame
May 4, 2013

You tell me I didn't build that?

I'll have you know I worked my fingers to the bone to get where I am today.
James Hoffman had a video about a company making specialist milk alternatives, they were blending various things to make the most coffee-friendly milk-like non-milk they could. I'm not really sure whether it's worth the effort or not but the UK coffee chains all spent last year introducing and heavily pushing a widening range of not-milk options like oat and almond. And there's plenty of demand for them, my store has seen a ton of people paying extra for these alternatives.

Honestly none of them really work for me, despite repeatedly trying to try them in various forms. All of them taste distinctly like something else pretending to be milk and I can't shake that feeling. Maybe some people like their latte to taste of marzipan, or breakfast cereal, I dunno, but we've never had an oat flavour syrup.

I get some people can't have milk, that's fair, and for them this not-milk might be the perfect solution, but I also wonder how much of the demand is people suddenly realising they're lactose intolerant, over just buying the alternative because having an alternative means milk must be bad for you. People will pay more if they think it means they're being health-conscious.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

I tried the one that James Hoffman promoted on his channel and didn't like it. It tastes nice when you steam it, but it has an unpleasant savoury note when consumed cold with cereal. My favourite is Minor Figures oat milk, as it tastes extremely similar to semi-skimmed milk when cold, but also tastes nice when steamed. The other nice thing about Minor Figures is that it doesn't have that overbearing oat flavour that brands like Oatly have, which leaves more room for your light-roast espresso to express itself in your steamed milk drink.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

TheDarkFlame posted:

I get some people can't have milk, that's fair, and for them this not-milk might be the perfect solution, but I also wonder how much of the demand is people suddenly realising they're lactose intolerant, over just buying the alternative because having an alternative means milk must be bad for you. People will pay more if they think it means they're being health-conscious.

I’m kinda dumb and socially inept, and when I go to someone’s house, I never fail to see milk substitute and say “hey, I didn’t realize you were lactose intolerant” only to be met with an uncomprehending stare and uncomfortable “...noooo?”

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Every non-dairy substitute has tasted like pipe tobacco in coffee to me, and I'm pretty sure it's because a ton of them are still adding a touch of vanilla flavor despite being labeled as unflavored.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

I welcome variety and non-dairy options for coffee and other drinks. If you're not comfortable with calling them milk that's fine.

All stuff in the vegan and vegan-adjacent food space is always a little bit experimental. You either drink it because it tastes nice by itself or because you don't want an animal product. I wouldn't approach these products with an expectation of "exactly like milk but better" or even as a substitute really because that'll end in predictable disappointment.

I'd invite people to treat oats and almonds and soy and what not as drinks in their own right because they all really taste quite different and have very different textures. So I expect that you shouldn't just use a cappuccino recipe 1:1 with them, but try out a little what you can do with them.

Full disclosure I may be talking out of my rear end since I just drink black coffee, but we use all those drinks a lot for cooking.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I only avoid milk because of the sugar content. Why can't coca cola create a diet milk substitute. I'll also admit I enjoy a good almond milk but at the same time I'm aware growing almonds and making almond milk is incredibly wasteful. Oat milk seems to be the way of the future for alt milks but oat also has a lot of sugar.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
Just use heavy whipping cream in everything and max out on fat instead of sugar

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Lord Stimperor posted:

I welcome variety and non-dairy options for coffee and other drinks. If you're not comfortable with calling them milk that's fine.

All stuff in the vegan and vegan-adjacent food space is always a little bit experimental. You either drink it because it tastes nice by itself or because you don't want an animal product. I wouldn't approach these products with an expectation of "exactly like milk but better" or even as a substitute really because that'll end in predictable disappointment.

I'd invite people to treat oats and almonds and soy and what not as drinks in their own right because they all really taste quite different and have very different textures. So I expect that you shouldn't just use a cappuccino recipe 1:1 with them, but try out a little what you can do with them.

Full disclosure I may be talking out of my rear end since I just drink black coffee, but we use all those drinks a lot for cooking.

Yeah the big issue with a lot of the alternatives is that none of them have been able to recreate the lipid layer that milk has which is why they never end up foaming like normal milk. So making stuff like lattes is incredibly hard without the special barista blends.

Oat milk is pretty good though, I usually make it homemade in small batches and use it as creamer when I want a sweeter coffee.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

The regular version of that Califa Farms "barista-style" oat milk is my favorite of all the stuff I've tried for a milk substitute with espresso. Very little flavor at all (lets the coffee shine), froths pretty well (even in a french press!), and is easy to find at most grocery stores in my area (midwest, so not "speciality").

Most other non-dairy stuff aimed at coffee drinks is UNBELIEVABLY sweet and/or vanilla flavored. That has its place for some drinks (especially if the person you're making it for expects a flavored coffee shop chain-style latte) but drat does it completely remove the flavor of coffee.

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


The best I've ever used is an australian/asian soy milk called bonsoy, which is both quite mild and steams up well. Otherwise oatly and minor figures will do if you're in the majority of the world without it. Agree with folks that they're not as good as milk, but it's better than no lattes if you're intolerant, or vegan, or trying to eat more consciously.

Bushido Brown
Mar 30, 2011

Mu Zeta posted:

I only avoid milk because of the sugar content. Why can't coca cola create a diet milk substitute.

Maybe your post was meant as a nod to this, but Coke halfways does? They own Fairlife, which produces high protein, lower sugar, lactose free milk.

It's all I drink. I don't think it's the best for steamed milk drinks but is pretty incredible for iced lattes and the like.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

RichterIX posted:

Just use heavy whipping cream in everything and max out on fat instead of sugar

Tried heavy cream before and it tastes gross and it seriously dilutes the flavor of the coffee. I also don't like that bulletproof nonsense for similar reasons.

Bushido Brown posted:

Maybe your post was meant as a nod to this, but Coke halfways does? They own Fairlife, which produces high protein, lower sugar, lactose free milk.

It's all I drink. I don't think it's the best for steamed milk drinks but is pretty incredible for iced lattes and the like.

I actually didn't know this type of stuff existed.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Tempted to make sweet coffee with coconut cream/milk now and see how it is

aldantefax
Oct 10, 2007

ALWAYS BE MECHFISHIN'
I got the Chestnut. The packaging is ridiculous but it does come with that leather thing that has some kind of adhesive to stick onto the body, but it is kinda...the body looks nice already and I don't wanna adhere leather to it? That part is a weird choice. I'll calibrate it today and make a decaf or something with it later in the afternoon which...I guess is already now, but I just made a Chemex of non-decaf.

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HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

amenenema posted:

My recipe is 24g for 400ml and a 185 is the perfect size. Any smaller and the first pour after the bloom would risk overtopping the filter.


Baratza Encore new/refurb with the M2 burr - https://www.baratza.com/shop/cone-burr-2 - poor person's Virtuoso/Precisio. Don't worry about buying a different ring burr if you're buying a new/refurb Encore (some recommend buying a new ring burr if you've used the Encore with the M3 cone burr for a long time so the two "wear in together" but even that's probably BS).

If you get a new one you might even be able to get the M3 burr off without disassembling the machine (use threads it on harder and FYI IT'S REVERSE THREADED!) but honestly disassembling to get a clamp on the gearset so you can turn the burr off is about a 5 min job. Lots of videos/guides out there.

It honestly makes a big difference. With the M3 the ends of my Kalita brews would slow way down as the fines began to accumulate in the bed; with the M2 the drawdown time is much more consistent from start to finish.

Hey I've been considering this upgrade for a while. Do you have a link to one of these videos handy?

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