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Civilized Fishbot posted:Not always allowed in Judaism; Ashkenazi Jews can't eat rice, and no Jew can eat wheat, during Passover. I thought unleavened bread was ok?
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:I thought unleavened bread was ok? Yeah I guess I don't really think of unleavened bread as a genuine wheat product. I grew up observing gebrochts which is that you can't even soak wheat in water so we didn't touch it outside matzo on passover proper. Lots of potato starch cooking
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So... baked potatoes? No bacon, no cheese, no butter, no sour cream, of course; I know there's Hindus who avoid onion and garlic but I don't know if chives count there.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:no Jew can eat wheat, during Passover. If we're using holidays as a metric then fasting periods such as Ramadan would mean the answer is "no"
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Aren't there a sect of radical Jain who, upon taking their vow, sits down in one place completely still without eating or drinking until they die?
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Tias posted:Aren't there a sect of radical Jain who, upon taking their vow, sits down in one place completely still without eating or drinking until they die? That ritual does exist within the Jain paradigm but I don’t remember if it was for a particular sect or simply a ritual one can do as a Jain.
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Slimy Hog posted:If we're using holidays as a metric then fasting periods such as Ramadan would mean the answer is "no" You can still eat after sunset during Ramadan. Anyone have an objection to very plain tomato soup? water, tomatoes, salt?
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BattyKiara posted:You can still eat after sunset during Ramadan. That's kinda my point though, since Passover ends at some point too. If we're saying fasting/abstention periods count then there is no food that is outside a religion's rules. I assumed you just meant foods like pork that religions ban the consumption of entirely.
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Slimy Hog posted:That's kinda my point though, since Passover ends at some point too. If we're saying fasting/abstention periods count then there is no food that is outside a religion's rules. So we know that all animal products are banned for sure, along with onions and garlic, and potentially beans (the Pythagoreans didn't eat them and there might still be an extant religion that doesn't); wheat, barley, spelt, and rye would have to not be "new grain" (this isn't related to abstention periods but to when in the year the grain was planted); any plants would have to have been verified to be free of insects, and plants that can't be so verified would be ruled out. I think we're going to be serving rice and potatoes at our hypothetical ecumenical lunch.
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 02:37 |
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The most ecumenical meal is probably a fast.
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 03:06 |
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The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast. As long as it's not scheduled on a day where fasting is forbidden for any particular religion (Islam has at least one, Judaism has a few)
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Thirteen Orphans posted:The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast. Ah good. Which holy city will it be held in?
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Worthleast posted:Ah good. Which holy city will it be held in? Hoboken New Jersey.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:The Something Awful Ecumenical Spaghetti Dinner will now be a Something Awful Ecumenical Fast. We had a similar issue come up in the discord a while back when we were talking about getting a server icon so it didn't just say "RG," but no one could think of an appropriate ecumenical image to use.
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CrypticFox posted:We had a similar issue come up in the discord a while back when we were talking about getting a server icon so it didn't just say "RG," but no one could think of an appropriate ecumenical image to use.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/arts/bible-deuteronomy-discovery.html?referringSource=articleShare Worth a read. Edit: Potentially the oldest Duet. source was labeled a forgery in the 1880’s but probably isn’t. Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Mar 11, 2021 |
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Namo Trump Butsu
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Bar Ran Dun posted:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/arts/bible-deuteronomy-discovery.html?referringSource=articleShare I don't think saying "probably isn't a forgery" is warranted yet, the claim is very controversial and rejected by most epigraphers. Christopher Rollstone, an epigrapher and expert on biblical forgeries, who is quoted in the article saying the documents are forgeries, wrote a much longer response on his blog about how weak the evidence in favor of authenticity is: http://www.rollstonepigraphy.com/?p=896. It's worth noting that all the most skeptical experts quoted in the NYT article are the actual epigraphers and paleographers, and the evidence presented in its favor is linguistic. Not to say that linguistic evidence is useless, especially in this case where that's the main piece of evidence available to work from due to the lack of the original manuscripts, but I am very skeptical about an epigraphic claim rejected by almost all epigraphic specialists.
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Ehh the parts that are missing compared to Deuteronomy coincide with what should be missing based on the current versions of documentary hypothesis. This is to say the text reflects a modern understanding of the writing of Deuteronomy and not one from the 1880s. My wife finds it compelling. But she and I are very much on the literary side of the argument.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 05:11 |
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A phd in norse animism recently put up a pretty funny academic takedown of anti-christianity in the norse heathen milieus, I thought you guys would get a kick out of it:Rune Hjarnø posted:1) It prevents the development of knowledge and thinking with weirdly anti-dogmatic dogma, that impedes thinking and dialogue, because positions can not really be assumed, tested against each other and developed. Someone will often close down the process of thought with some relativist dogma about agreeing to disagree. (this is an extremely prominent feature of DK heathens)
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That's some funny poo poo, although I think there are idiomatic nuances that are escaping me, a simple herbivore. Points 3 and 4 are very truthy, though, and I think we have dealt with #4 a lot in this thread's past cycles; people who are Against Religion (or Against Their Vision of Religion, Which Is Basically Fundamentalist American Protestant Evangelicals)
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CrypticFox posted:I don't think saying "probably isn't a forgery" is warranted yet, the claim is very controversial and rejected by most epigraphers. Christopher Rollstone, an epigrapher and expert on biblical forgeries, who is quoted in the article saying the documents are forgeries, wrote a much longer response on his blog about how weak the evidence in favor of authenticity is: http://www.rollstonepigraphy.com/?p=896. It's worth noting that all the most skeptical experts quoted in the NYT article are the actual epigraphers and paleographers, and the evidence presented in its favor is linguistic. Not to say that linguistic evidence is useless, especially in this case where that's the main piece of evidence available to work from due to the lack of the original manuscripts, but I am very skeptical about an epigraphic claim rejected by almost all epigraphic specialists. All of this needs to go right into my veins
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CrypticFox posted:We had a similar issue come up in the discord a while back when we were talking about getting a server icon so it didn't just say "RG," but no one could think of an appropriate ecumenical image to use. quote:
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A shocking cutting act whose outrageousness forces us to contemplate that the buddha lives in all of us, that even the odious and obnoxious are valuable teachers of the dharma as they let us practice patience. One is also reminded of the great vow and of the buddha's statement that even Devadatta and Mara would one day achieve enlightenment. 10 out of 10 would skillful means again.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:even the odious and obnoxious are valuable teachers of the dharma as they let us practice patience. this is an on trump, right?
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King James IV of Scotland (1473-1513) believed that all humans possessed innate knowledge of Hebrew, as the original, universal human language, by virtue of its being implanted, in its entirety, in each human mind by God. The reason that he suspected that the original human language was Hebrew is that it is the original language of (most of) the Old Testament. Deciding to test the hypothesis that all humans have an innate knowledge of Hebrew, he arranged to have two newborn infants and a deaf-mute nursemaid placed in isolation. Several years later, the three were retrieved, and, sure enough, the king reported that the children "spak very guid Ebrew" (Fromkin and Rodman, 1978, 21). We may smile at the king's experiment but he was a learned and smart man, one of several in history to have had the same hypothesis and to have tried similar experiments (Jones, 2016). Random interesting fact I encountered for the day.
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The idea that there's an innate universal language is an interesting idea. I think if there was such a thing it would vastly predate Hebrew though.
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Tias posted:
Counterpoint: HAIL SATAN
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Lutha Mahtin posted:this is an on trump, right? no this is a genuine Buddhist thing quote:
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:no this is a genuine Buddhist thing
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 03:41 |
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That kid sounds like a blast to watch at least. Chaotic tea ceremonies! Hot water everywhere! gently caress your cups!
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 03:42 |
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St. Nikolai Velimirovich takes a similar approach to enemies in his prayer.quote:Enemies have driven me into your embrace more than friends have. There's also the novel Laurus, which includes a sequence in which the main character, a Russian Orthodox fool-for-Christ, goes on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem with an Italian who can see the future. Along the way, they join up with a Franciscan monk who expresses gratitude for the donkey his fellow monks gave him to ride. It's so ornery and stubborn that he figures it can only be for his spiritual benefit to put up with it.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:I thought unleavened bread was ok? The leavening process, according to rabbinical law, happens when a cereal grain (wheat, spelt, barley, rye, and oats) mixes with water and time, because of "air leavening" like how bread was leavened back in Torah times. If you make matzah before the time is up, you've created something made from those grains that isn't going to leaven.** That's how matzah is permitted. **Some Jews - like how Civilized Fishbot grew up also don't eat matzah+water ("gebrochts) because of a concern of some errant flour getting into the matzah making process.** We are filming our teaching seder tomorrow, two weeks early. There's so much to do! Film crew coming over tomorrow afternoon! Praying for strength and stamina out here ! WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 14, 2021 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:no this is a genuine Buddhist thing yeah it's a thing in christianity too, i was just being goofy about it
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yeah it's a thing in christianity too, i was just being goofy about it A friend of mine used to call particularly challenging people “saintmakers.”
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 07:28 |
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as jesus said, "i was hungry and you gave me something to eat, i was a stranger and you invited me in, i melted tf down because you were out of the black friday doorbuster and you kindly informed me on how to send complaints to the customer service department."
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Lutha Mahtin posted:as jesus said, "i was hungry and you gave me something to eat, i was a stranger and you invited me in, i melted tf down because you were out of the black friday doorbuster and you kindly informed me on how to send complaints to the customer service department." There really should be a patron saint of IT support people who didn't flip the table after a few stupid questions too many.
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WrenP-Complete posted:The leavening process, according to rabbinical law, happens when a cereal grain (wheat, spelt, barley, rye, and oats) mixes with water and time, because of "air leavening" like how bread was leavened back in Torah times. If you make matzah before the time is up, you've created something made from those grains that isn't going to leaven.** I know the justification but it does always feel a bit strange to make kneidlach mix and then leave it for 90 minutes to rise before balling it up and boiling it so it swells up even bigger. Celebrating that time our ancestors had to get up and leave really quickly by making a dish that requires at least two hours of time!
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Organza Quiz posted:I know the justification but it does always feel a bit strange to make kneidlach mix and then leave it for 90 minutes to rise before balling it up and boiling it so it swells up even bigger. Celebrating that time our ancestors had to get up and leave really quickly by making a dish that requires at least two hours of time! Yeah, it's reminiscent of the central weirdness/irony/juxtaposition of Passover - celebration of our freedom... by which we obviously mean our commitment and obligations to Hashem! PS I just kashered so much silverware! Whee! WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Mar 14, 2021 |
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