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Dallan Invictus posted:The Competition Bureau generally is responsible for approving or denying mergers. The CRTC currently has a role specifically when it comes to the ownership of broadcasters or cable companies (C-10 might change that a little), or the remaining limits on foreign ownership in telecom, but mostly this particular deal is actually the Competition Bureau's to accept or reject. My mistake, I was under the impression it was the CRTC's purview as they are both cable companies, broadcasters, and internet service providers.
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Holy poo poo. Hopefully the folks I know who are still there end up alright.
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Mar 15, 2021 14:55
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The competition bureau did diddly squat when Bell swallowed up MTS
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Mar 15, 2021 14:56
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I can't wait to experience what it's like to be "rogered"
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Mar 15, 2021 15:00
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Methanar posted:I can't wait to experience what it's like to be "rogered" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKVGB6JEfs
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I was looking at switching back to shaw for the shaw hotspots that are practically everywhere. I've been with Telus for 5 years, so maybe I'll just call them to see if they can lower my rate. I'm paying like $250/month for a load of poo poo my family doesn't even use (granted, we go way over the monthly data our package has each month). I fully admit my ignorance of how to haggle with providers for better rates.
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Mar 15, 2021 15:13
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I joined Freedom because Rogers jacked up the 60 for 10 price so fast... now I might end up a Bell customer 
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Mar 15, 2021 15:14
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infernal machines posted:My mistake, I was under the impression it was the CRTC's purview as they are both cable companies, broadcasters, and internet service providers. That's the mostly part. It's only the broadcaster and cable company licenses that they would need CRTC approval to buy - otherwise the CRTC doesn't have the power to interfere with the deal. Competition in the telecom market is one (of many, several of which contradict each other) goals they're supposed to work toward and consider as they regulate carriers, but it's not really something they directly enforce.
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Mar 15, 2021 15:18
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Man I feel bad for the people who switched employers from Rogers to Shaw and getting the news this morning. I've heard from a few who are all "oh, Jesus loving Christ"
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Mar 15, 2021 15:25
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Coxswain Balls posted:Man I feel bad for the people who switched employers from Rogers to Shaw and getting the news this morning. I've heard from a few who are all "oh, Jesus loving Christ" "No essscaaape..." 
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Mar 15, 2021 15:31
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Yes I too feel terrible for several discrete appendages of this giant clawed parasite bleeding my family dry.
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Mar 15, 2021 16:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2su-LhDmxl0
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shadow puppet of a posted:Yes I too feel terrible for several discrete appendages of this giant clawed parasite bleeding my family dry. I'm not saying you have to care but I'm still going to have empathy for my friends and acquaintances who have a lovely employer. I'm not going to cut them out of my life and think they're human garbage for the dumb things their management does because I'm not an rear end in a top hat who blames frontline reps for things that happen at the executive level.
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Mar 15, 2021 16:36
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Starlink will save us! *swarm of garbage envelops our lower atmosphere, preventing us from ever escaping*
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Coxswain Balls posted:I'm not saying you have to care but I'm still going to have empathy for my friends and acquaintances who have a lovely employer. I'm not going to cut them out of my life and think they're human garbage for the dumb things their management does because I'm not an rear end in a top hat who blames frontline reps for things that happen at the executive level. Brad Shaw is probably one of the dumbest people in this country. Just an absolute moron that bumbled everything that he ever tried to do at Shaw and he's going to get a massive payout and sit on the Rogers board in retirement. Nepotism is alive and well.
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Mar 15, 2021 17:27
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Starlink will save us! Mind your language, citizen. Those older satellites are not "garbage" but future resources to be harvested by the Musk-Bezos-Yutani Corp. Fifty Likes have been deducted from your chequing account.
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Mar 15, 2021 17:32
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Lobok posted:Mind your language, citizen. Those older satellites are not "garbage" but future resources to be harvested by the Musk-Bezos-Yutani Corp. Fifty
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Starlink will save us! trust me, it's better this way
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Mar 15, 2021 17:54
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DariusLikewise posted:Brad Shaw is probably one of the dumbest people in this country. Just an absolute moron that bumbled everything that he ever tried to do at Shaw and he's going to get a massive payout and sit on the Rogers board in retirement. Nepotism is alive and well. Don't forget that he's only in charge because his brother managed to be even worse. His sisters are even more neurotic from the stories I've heard.
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Mar 15, 2021 18:02
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Our very own Hapsburgs
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Mar 15, 2021 18:10
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Luv 2 have our own groups of industry royals most of whom are the idiot descendants of the actual founders like the Irvings, Rogers, the Loblaws people, etc.
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Coxswain Balls posted:Don't forget that he's only in charge because his brother managed to be even worse. His sisters are even more neurotic from the stories I've heard. I might be misremembering the details but I think it was Julie Shaw that tried to go off on her own and start an interior design career and JR bought her firm and forced her to work with the rest of the family at Shaw? One time she was visiting our office in Winnipeg and the Managers went around asking everyone to take their jackets off the backs of their chairs and hang them up in the closet because Julie flips her lid every time she sees jackets on chairs.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Starlink will save us! I think the bigger risk is just collisions between satellites, most of them are low orbit and will burn up on failure. They have thrusters to avoid collisions but obviously the complexity of that scales the more that are launched and there's very little regulation right now.
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DariusLikewise posted:I might be misremembering the details but I think it was Julie Shaw that tried to go off on her own and start an interior design career and JR bought her firm and forced her to work with the rest of the family at Shaw? One time she was visiting our office in Winnipeg and the Managers went around asking everyone to take their jackets off the backs of their chairs and hang them up in the closet because Julie flips her lid every time she sees jackets on chairs. Yeah, they made her head of "architecture and design". I remember that, as well as when she flipped her poo poo at the Bison Building Services rep and had a meltdown because she found some dust on a random windowsill or something. Whenever she was scheduled to visit the supervisors got really nervous about keeping up appearances, and the building staff would be on edge.
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Mar 15, 2021 18:33
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Some positive news, federal court of appeals rejects Bell, Rogers  about CRTC wholesale rates and ordering they pay costs of the small ISPs.https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-broadband-court-1.5718922 It sounds like the CRTC is reviewing their own decision but it since the court rejected the appeal I hope they (or the government) won't try to do anything too shady. who am I kidding slidebite fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 15, 2021 |
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I legit fear all these prices going up. It’s already expensive enough and we get such lower tier poo poo compared to other countries. The CRTC is absolutely toothless and I will not be surprised if they allow this to go through.
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I was trying to remember, wasn’t there a bce/telus proposed merger a few years back? Not sure if it came apart because of govt oversight or something else.
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Lobok posted:Mind your language, citizen. Those older satellites are not "garbage" but future resources to be harvested by the Musk-Bezos-Yutani Corp. Fifty Likes have been deducted from your chequing account. The Gunslinger posted:I think the bigger risk is just collisions between satellites, most of them are low orbit and will burn up on failure. They have thrusters to avoid collisions but obviously the complexity of that scales the more that are launched and there's very little regulation right now. Actually I was referring to this from the Space forum. Debris in Low-Earth Orbit is now considered Earth's largest garbage dump. There's really no regulation over it, and it's becoming a problem now. But hey, at least we'd have an alternative to Canadian telecom!
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priznat posted:I was trying to remember, wasn’t there a bce/telus proposed merger a few years back? Not sure if it came apart because of govt oversight or something else. there were talks in 2k7, they got some subs from when bell bought mts, and they co-run their lte network
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mediaphage posted:there were talks in 2k7, they got some subs from when bell bought mts, and they co-run their lte network Wow 2007 hm there was something more recent perhaps it was the mts thing I was thinking of.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Actually I was referring to this from the Space forum. Between using Rogers and dooming the human race to one planet, I know which I'm choosing.
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Are we suggesting that Shaw and Rogers shouldn't be allowed to merge until both can and have shot down all space debris?
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Mar 16, 2021 02:00
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Let's just say i look forward to denying their monopoly on the moon for eternity
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Mar 16, 2021 02:10
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We can't let them have the moon, that's where our cum's gonna go!
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Mar 16, 2021 02:28
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How naive you gotta be to think something like the CRTC is anything but a rubber stamp as long as we live in a capitalist society Look at any carriers coverage map and it says my whole area is covered and then some which is grossly inaccurate. Emailed CRTC and they came back like yeahhh that's not our concern at all quote:Thank you for contacting us about Bell Canada’s marketing practices concerning mobile telephone and Internet services in your region.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-canadas-efficiencies-defence-may-enable-rogers-shaw-merger/quote:Rogers and Shaw issued a joint communique on Monday announcing their intent to merge, a deal totalling $26-billion, including debt. The two companies also claim the merger will create $1-billion a year in synergies within two years after it is finalized.
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Mar 16, 2021 18:54
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Welcome to Rogers' Bay Company Eventually
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Mar 16, 2021 19:29
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It's like I've heard that news three times...
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I really need to work up the give-a-gently caress to switch to TekSavvy or something. But I’m stressed to the max working in unsafe conditions during a pandemic so Shaw gets their $100 each month just because I’m constantly overwhelmed. TekSavvy is still $90/month for slower service, but at least I’d feel a little better giving them money I guess. 2021 sucks. 
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Nevermind, it'll fit better in the cellular thread.
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