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Doctor Zero posted:Did the goon that ordered the not-Lego Agenemnon ever get it? Nope. It's been a year now (thanks 2020 time distortion) and yeah it's safe to assume that that's never going to happen. I've actually been going through the series with my girlfriend; this is the 3rd time I've seen the whole thing but her first. She's had a number of hilarious commentaries as we went through, spoilered mostly for effect since this thread is as far as I know a free fire zone for plot points: Immediately before Chrysalis: "So when does the prologue end?" Immediately before Coming of Shadows: "It's not like they can blow up another president" Messages From Earth: "So they're going to break away, right?", then again during Point of No Return, and then for Severed Dreams her initially just assuming they won't Immediately before The Long Night: "How are they going to up the stakes? The Shadows won't have their own planet killer" We're at Racing Mars next so I'm waiting to see what ridiculous things she has to say for the Earth arc. She's loving the show, aside from occasional weaker parts (hello, Gray 17) and being vaguely uncomfortable at how Clark etc reflect on current events.
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power crystals posted:Nope. It's been a year now (thanks 2020 time distortion) and yeah it's safe to assume that that's never going to happen. My friend ordered one and got it a few months ago. It seemed to go together well though he had some concerns about the strength of the connection between the spinning part and the rest of the hull.
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I'm enough of a physics nerd to dislike spinny sections on warships, so even within B5, I like some of the other races' ships more than the Omega.
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Personally, I've always liked the Vree saucers, especially since I used them to win both of the Babylon 5 Wars Grand Tournaments ever held at GenCon.
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jng2058 posted:Personally, I've always liked the Vree saucers, especially since I used them to win both of the Babylon 5 Wars Grand Tournaments ever held at GenCon. I think I played that game at Origins - what was the advantage of the Vree saucers?
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:I think I played that game at Origins - what was the advantage of the Vree saucers? Given that the movement system of the game was big on momentum, ie it's harder to turn the faster you go, and the damage system was based on losing armor on your four hull zones (Forward, Aft, Port, Starboard) until you got to the core of a ship and then when the core died so did the ship, the Vree had a number of special rules that made 'em really tough. In the first place, they had six hull zones in pie sections, and secondly they could rotate which section was facing you at any time during their turn and since most of their weapons were 360 degree turrets on the core, it didn't matter which section was pointed at you, you were still getting shot. Vree ships had gravitic drives and could turn a lot easier than non-gravitic races, so combined with their spin rules were the most maneuverable ships in the game. So tough, fast, and they were the only race to make extensive use of antimatter weapons which could do hideous amounts of damage if you got close to your target, but since you were the most maneuverable fleet in the game, it was never hard to get close. Zip in, unload all your antimatter into the enemy's most dangerous ship, eat the return fire, spin so that damaged section is facing away from the next enemy ship, then repeat. It wasn't a perfect fleet, Vree have weak fighters and mediocre anti-fighter defenses (except for the Antimatter Shredder seen at Coriana VI but even that can be worked around if you have enough fighters spread out right). The closest I came to losing was against a Gaim carrier fleet who just filled the sky with more fighters than I could handle, and against fighters the spin trick doesn't work, since they can always get shots into your damaged sections. But fighters don't count towards victory conditions, so when I killed his last carrier I won on points despite the fact that a couple more turns would have seen the bug fighters finish off what as left of my fleet. Fortunately for me the meta in that era tended towards lots of large capital ships and not that kind of carrier fleet, so the rest of the battles I fought both years were a lot easier. tl;dr - Flying saucers kick rear end!
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Doctor Zero posted:Welcome fellow First One. That was me. We leave the younger races in peace while living vicariously through them in the other thread. I know that might not seem spoilers, but if one of the new watchers decides to google it because they don't know what it is and they happen upon the Omega X class, that would be a HUGE spoiler. yeah that's a maximum clean room thread, i'm not one to care for spoilers at all normally but b5 is good and it's nice and unusual to have the opportunity to watch a 90s tv show without anyone telling you what is gonna happen.
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sebmojo posted:yeah that's a maximum clean room thread, i'm not one to care for spoilers at all normally but b5 is good and it's nice and unusual to have the opportunity to watch a 90s tv show without anyone telling you what is gonna happen. Agreed. Watching something for the first time is always nice; especially, when you come in completely blind. I'm not 12 so I know how the internets goes but it is still annoying when you start to watch something and get immediately slammed with either spoilers or the clever "subtle" hints that are just millimeters away from spoilers. Moreso when the show seems to care about more than the main show protagonist. I still thank my mate who got me to try out this old, weird 90s sci fi show called Babylon 5 and told me NOTHING (well except forgive a few dodgy episodes and 90s CGI). Speaking of new things: Just bought the Babylon 5 movies and Crusade. I was bored and had some sterling free. Legends of the Rangers is... decent? Crusade, as of four episodes is good? C+? The music is overall dreadful, the cgi is worse than usual B5 and LoTR has the punch+kick weapons system meme we all know about. Despite all of that I enjoyed it and almost wished there was more. CGI is, again, really bad even for the 90s. On par with Hercules and is even more noticeable when Crusade has some ground troops or a dragon. Really, really bad. Legends slams you with the awful music but Crusade less so and by episode 3 is more just generic sci fi tv show. Also the intro to Crusade feels like some fan made it in 10 minutes back in 2004. Really goofy and I had friend over to watch and it made me him laugh so hard he choked. Afterwards his rating was "corny" with some added expletives. So why am I enjoying it so much? Captain and the crew are fairly good (except one) but Galen is the best. I just really enjoy that character and the actor. He sells the dialogue even at it most clunky. I can't even tell you properly why but he makes me want more. A weird mix of earnest and hammy I'm thinking but, again, just really like him in spite of him seeming more mage than technomage at times. Also enjoying the rogue Dereena. Only character that rubs me wrong so far is the archaeologist and it is mostly down to his acting. Somehow his character bugs me more than most. The plot is still good and I wish we could have seen where it was going. Still need to watch more but I can already see the seeds being planted. Frustrating and reminds me of this other show with Karl Urban that I enjoyed in spite of the foreknowledge it was killed after part of a season. Still finishing but still recommend watching it. Don't even ask me how much I paid for this but if you guys find it for free give it a go. Definitely feel the series would be a prime candidate for a reboot as the groundwork is good and only a handful of people could tell you this show got made anyway. Move the plot forward 20 years in the b5 verse future and you really don't need to even involve unneeded forced cameos. Doom2020! fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 8, 2021 |
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I just watched Crusade for the first time a few months ago (after a B5 rewatch) and I'd agree with that assessment. I've been meaning to post about it actually. It's rough, but it only had half a season and there was enough groundwork laid that it could have been really good, given a chance. I liked the cast, even if the only other thing I think I've seen Gary Cole in is Office Space so that was always in my mind. Yeah, the archaeologist is an rear end in a top hat but it made sense considering (IIRC) his main drive was making profit for IPX. Galen is cool, especially how he often just fucks off to do his own thing for the episode. But oh god, the music. I'm one of those people that doesn't pay much attention to music in a show, but Crusade's was that terrible it took me out of the show. For the intro sequence, I can't think of another show with such a mismatch between the music and visuals. If you haven't seen it, the visuals show lots of sci-fi action (as you might expect) but the music is some new-age Enya knockoff bullshit which is just hilariously bad and such a poor fit. The inter-species porn to kick off an episode got a good laugh out of me too.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:But oh god, the music. I'm one of those people that doesn't pay much attention to music in a show, but Crusade's was that terrible it took me out of the show. For the intro sequence, I can't think of another show with such a mismatch between the music and visuals. If you haven't seen it, the visuals show lots of sci-fi action (as you might expect) but the music is some new-age Enya knockoff bullshit which is just hilariously bad and such a poor fit. I suppose I can understand how you'd draw that association, but there really isn't much similarity between Enya's Celtic fusion music and Evan H. Chen's Chinese-influenced music for Crusade. Count me among the ones who disliked it a lot on first viewing, but on subsequent viewings it really grew on me. It's a pretty good fit for the alien archeology theme of the show, and it has a very detached affect which I think would have read very differently several seasons in. JMS definitely got the very different sound and feel between the shows that he wanted, and I appreciate the willingness to experiment. With a mid-season cancellation, Crusade never really got the chance to learn from its mistakes, and that's not even factoring in the errors compelled by a network determined to cancel the show. Max is intended to rub viewers the wrong way, and is clearly on track to be the G'Kar of the Crusade cast, although actually I'm unsure if he was heading toward a redemption or something more equivocal. Dr. Chambers is the only character who gets cheated out of development in the episodes we have, but I thought Marjean Holden's acting was very direct and straightforward and reminded me a lot of Mira Furlan in the sense that the character just seems extremely centered and a straight-shooter. John Matheson is the obvious break-out character and Daniel Dae Kim has certainly had a very successful post-Crusade career. Seeing him in the Captain's chair would have meant a great deal.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I recall reading somewhere, though I can't find it on a cursory search, that Gideon would eventually have become an antagonist in the series - presumably being influenced by the Apocalypse Box. That would have been a very interesting thing to see happen. That's a new one on me, but it is plausible insofar as the Apocalypse Box is both a mystery and an obvious long-term problem.
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mllaneza posted:That's a new one on me, but it is plausible insofar as the Apocalypse Box is both a mystery and an obvious long-term problem. Gideon was preoccupied with figuring out the powers behind the ship that almost killed him. The unfilmed scripts indicate that that was going to be a secret Earthforce project working with Shadow tech that went back before Clark's regime, even further back than Santiago's. The Apocalypse Box was going to play on that obsession, likely to the point that it endangered the search for the Drakh plague cure.
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I think at some point someone on the Crusade CGI team starting making big promises in the wake of some of the stuff they tried on Babylon 5's last couple of seasons, and the ball got away from them. We started seeing stuff we'd never seen on B5, like Gideon on his flying bike thing, vast ruined cities, an entire CGI person, a big space octopus humping a starship, a dragon, all in the space of a handful of episodes. I loved their ambition, but they so often fell short of realizing it. I don't think the tools were quite there for what they were trying to do on a TV series budget and timescale.
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At least some of that is due to executive meddling. TNT's programming was very action-oriented and they wanted Crusade to fit in that mold. We're very lucky that they didn't mess around with season 5 more than they did.
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ultrafilter posted:At least some of that is due to executive meddling. TNT's programming was very action-oriented and they wanted Crusade to fit in that mold. We're very lucky that they didn't mess around with season 5 more than they did. Season 5 was still something they'd acquired. Crusade was something that they owned. I suspect that if Crusade S1 had been Babylon 5 S6, as was actually speculated at one point, then they would have meddled less.
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8 episodes in now.... and I have come around on more...Dirty posted:I think at some point someone on the Crusade CGI team starting making big promises in the wake of some of the stuff they tried on Babylon 5's last couple of seasons, and the ball got away from them. We started seeing stuff we'd never seen on B5, like Gideon on his flying bike thing, vast ruined cities, an entire CGI person, a big space octopus humping a starship, a dragon, all in the space of a handful of episodes. I loved their ambition, but they so often fell short of realizing it. I don't think the tools were quite there for what they were trying to do on a TV series budget and timescale. McSpanky posted:Gideon was preoccupied with figuring out the powers behind the ship that almost killed him. The unfilmed scripts indicate that that was going to be a secret Earthforce project working with Shadow tech that went back before Clark's regime, even further back than Santiago's. The Apocalypse Box was going to play on that obsession, likely to the point that it endangered the search for the Drakh plague cure. "It lies. Not all the time but... just enough" Narsham posted:I suppose I can understand how you'd draw that association, but there really isn't much similarity between Enya's Celtic fusion music and Evan H. Chen's Chinese-influenced music for Crusade. Count me among the ones who disliked it a lot on first viewing, but on subsequent viewings it really grew on me. It's a pretty good fit for the alien archeology theme of the show, and it has a very detached affect which I think would have read very differently several seasons in. JMS definitely got the very different sound and feel between the shows that he wanted, and I appreciate the willingness to experiment. With a mid-season cancellation, Crusade never really got the chance to learn from its mistakes, and that's not even factoring in the errors compelled by a network determined to cancel the show. Also now I can see it with Max. Three episodes in I was just annoyed but really.... I'm slowly growing to like him as the writers are good about taking the piss out of him. Really like the cast overall. The more I watch this show the more I am convinced this would be a great show to reboot. Leave B5 proper be but a show set 20 years later in the same verse? A mysterious leftover remnant ally of an old war making a super plague? An EarthGov that has gotten fat and lazy and overestimating its own power? Nazis creeping their way back into EarthGov because PEOPLE LEARNED NOTHING? Yeah that could be stellar. Now to go finish the show Doom2020! fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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As bad as Legend of the Rangers was, the Hand as Thirdspace Aliens kept by the Vorlons like Deathwalker was by the Minbari who are now on the loose is close to a paint-by-numbers remake of the original plot but would be perfectly serviceable. More interesting would be a 20th Century tragedy pastiche where the ISA tries to hold itself together threading the needle between forcibly enforcing the alliance through superior technology or letting the alliance fall apart and potentially descend into more violence. Added stress of the Telepath homeland having been carved out of part of the defeated Earth and Centauri Empires and not playing well with its neighbors and with the Earth Empire having balkanized into a multipolar state with Proxima, Earth and Mars. This is the main pain point which is also easy on the costume budget. In terms of the alliance, Minbari are interested in a more benevolent rule (though Rangers rooting out Shadow influence is occasionally used as an excuse for larger geopolitical aims) while the Narn are a voice for strong application of the alliance motivated by their fear and trauma of repeated invasions and occupations. League of Non-Aligned worlds allows for minor intrigue-of-the-week. That whole shitshow is S1, maybe S2. Eventually the plucky heroes use Shadow tech to restore the balance of power. But the cure is worse than the disease and having PsiCorp on top is even more dystopian. Friends become enemies, enemies become friends, new and strange alliances are formed, etc.
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Dirty posted:I think at some point someone on the Crusade CGI team starting making big promises in the wake of some of the stuff they tried on Babylon 5's last couple of seasons, and the ball got away from them. We started seeing stuff we'd never seen on B5, like Gideon on his flying bike thing, vast ruined cities, an entire CGI person, a big space octopus humping a starship, a dragon, all in the space of a handful of episodes. I loved their ambition, but they so often fell short of realizing it. I don't think the tools were quite there for what they were trying to do on a TV series budget and timescale. Crusade had several problems in this regard. There would have been no way to afford it as a planet/ruins-of-the-week show without CGI, even if TNT hadn't been providing the same low budget they offered to S5 of B5 ($920,000 on average, according to JMS). They had all the prosthetics and costuming from B5, but most of the main set needed to be built from scratch, and they weren't doing the "pilot is a TV movie meaning we get more money to build sets that will last for the whole series" trick that B5 did. But the biggest problem was that exec producer and money-man Doug Netter had seized control of B5's CGI later in the show's production, forming his own "Netter Digital" company in 1995 and handling S4 and S5 of the show, and that group was going to be responsible for the CGI on Crusade. And a lot of that work was great, but not all of it. With Netter handling the money, the odds of outsourcing any effects were essentially zero. You can see that the space/ship-based effects are handled well, and some of the planetary stuff is OK, but a lot of it isn't and just looks rushed and cheap (which it was). I am betting that TNT, eager to cancel the series, was not especially interested in providing the show time to do lengthy renders. I also suspect that a lot of the Technomage effects are deliberately designed to be cheesy and fake rather than photorealistic, including both the dragon and decoy Galen. Not a great choice, in retrospect, but I can see why they might have made it. The big twist I was anticipating that we never got, in Crusade, would have come late in the series if my suspicions are right. The crew is on the run, carrying a cure for the plague that they can't administer because Earth authorities prefer to protect themselves over the lives of everyone on the planet. They plan for a big last-minute rush into Sol space in an attempt to save everyone at the cost of their lives. And that's when they discover that the Drakh plague isn't just networked, it is sentient and can be negotiated with, especially given that the Shadows are gone and that it's potentially facing its own extinction. Cue an unexpected alliance with the very plague we thought the show was about curing, against the real enemy, the Earth authorities who have coopted and experimented with Shadowtech. (That seems like something that sentient Shadowtech would frown upon.)
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sebmojo posted:yeah that's a maximum clean room thread, i'm not one to care for spoilers at all normally but b5 is good and it's nice and unusual to have the opportunity to watch a 90s tv show without anyone telling you what is gonna happen. Yes, thank you for your diligence. I think most of my posts in that thread are "SHUT THE gently caress UP"
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Narsham posted:I suppose I can understand how you'd draw that association, but there really isn't much similarity between Enya's Celtic fusion music and Evan H. Chen's Chinese-influenced music for Crusade. Count me among the ones who disliked it a lot on first viewing, but on subsequent viewings it really grew on me. It's a pretty good fit for the alien archeology theme of the show, and it has a very detached affect which I think would have read very differently several seasons in. JMS definitely got the very different sound and feel between the shows that he wanted, and I appreciate the willingness to experiment. Fair enough, to be honest I'm not into that kind of music so Enya was the first (only) name that came to mind. I can see the fit from that detached, alien angle and I suppose it works in that regard. I still don't like it, but whatever, it is what it is. quote:With a mid-season cancellation, Crusade never really got the chance to learn from its mistakes, and that's not even factoring in the errors compelled by a network determined to cancel the show. That's the theme that's popped up a lot here - Crusade is a half-season show so there's very little to judge it on. There's a lot of promise, but still, we can only speculate on what it could have been.
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Cormack posted:I thought JMS said in an interview somewhere that the twist was going to be that the plague was going to get solved much sooner than you would expect in a 5 year arc (S1 or S2 I think?) and the series would pivot to a different motivating cause. He did, yes. He deliberately set up the five year incubation period so that people would automatically assume that the Plague was the central focus of the show, when in fact it would be resolved in mid-S2 after it was discovered that EarthGov were performing unethical experiments with Shadow technology in order to find their own cure.
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I've been watching the remasters together with my girlfriend, and we just watched War Without End the other day. At the ending I had to explain to my girlfriend why her 40 year old 6'3" 240 lbs man was crying his eyes out at a silly 90s sci-fi tv show that isn't even widescreen.
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evobatman posted:I've been watching the remasters together with my girlfriend, and we just watched War Without End the other day. At the ending I had to explain to my girlfriend why her 40 year old 6'3" 240 lbs man was crying his eyes out at a silly 90s sci-fi tv show that isn't even widescreen. Let me know when you reach Sleeping in Light, so I can give you the number for the Samaritans. (I got a lump last time I watched it, and that was before Mira Furlan passed.)
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Sleeping in Light and Girl in the Fireplace (doctor who) are the two sci-fi episodes that make me bawl every. single. time. (Tip: Don't watch either of those on a plane unless you want the flight attendant to come up and make sure you are okay. May or may not be from experience)
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Jedit posted:Let me know when you reach Sleeping in Light, so I can give you the number for the Samaritans. Wot? She died? <checks interwebs> Goddamit. Good thing we changed the thread title as ... it is getting depressing at this point. Sleeping in Light will be even more of a punch to the heart now. So finished Crusade and I have to say well worth it. I also completely turned around on Max the Archaeologist. He grew to be one of my more favoured characters despite being a bastard. Liked him far more already than I ever did Garibaldi. The writing was really top notch and even when they did a bit of a miss they would do something to bring it back up a little. Thinking of a reverse X Files episode that made me roll my eyes so hard right till near the end. "Some people might say we are interfering in their native way of life." <a few minutes after saying he doesn't like getting played> "Screw em." I was surprised how many of the actors did a good job and, for a show that only lasted a half a season, did a fair job of getting you to like and remember most of them. The Doctor may be the most original character but she did wonders with what she had. The guy who played Max also did a great job of playing his guy and I feel like I need to apologize for being so hard on him when I was only 3 episodes deep (although neither the actor nor character would care about some rando on the interwebs). I went from hating every time he was on screen to him being at least my second favourite. Wish Daniel Dae Kim could have taken this show places but oh well. The acting and writing really were drat good for a show that was so sabotaged from cradle. The only criticisms I can give (other than the short half season episode length) are the music and cgi. Music I still find really bland and low rent. I hear an occasional non generic vibe but for 95% of the time I hear generic sci fi using an 80's Casio Keyboard emulator. The into is still awful but the cgi ... Narsham posted:But the biggest problem was that exec producer and money-man Doug Netter had seized control of B5's CGI later in the show's production, forming his own "Netter Digital" company in 1995 and handling S4 and S5 of the show, and that group was going to be responsible for the CGI on Crusade. And a lot of that work was great, but not all of it. With Netter handling the money, the odds of outsourcing any effects were essentially zero. You can see that the space/ship-based effects are handled well, and some of the planetary stuff is OK, but a lot of it isn't and just looks rushed and cheap (which it was). I am betting that TNT, eager to cancel the series, was not especially interested in providing the show time to do lengthy renders. Thank you as it makes so much sense now. Also noticed a B5 show where they looked like they took OG photoshop and just copy+paste the Excalibur next to it. I get they said that about the Technomage effects but man... that either is some of the worst decision making or the most successful taking the piss I have ever seen. "I'm running out of time... oh gently caress what do I do? What if I tell them it looks this way on purpose?" <snorts another line of coke> "Yeah brilliant" The homunculus/dupe of Galen was hilariously awful. I like the sub Reboot cgi with a smile on his face and the wide eyes. This time I laughed so hard I was the one who choked and spilled. So bad.... So yeah... anyone paying some money for this better be ready for awful music, intro and low end 90s cgi but if you can get past that? Well worth a go. Definitely want a reboot of this show. Still any Narn will make me miss G'Kar. The Richard Biggs cameo made me super sad in the "last" episode. Really don't want to make a list of the guys still living as I don't want to jinx anything. No idea why, out of all the characters final moments, Dr Franklin's hits me the hardest. Just walking out, alone and without any fanfare, quietly into the sunset. Doom2020! fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Jedit posted:He did, yes. He deliberately set up the five year incubation period so that people would automatically assume that the Plague was the central focus of the show, when in fact it would be resolved in mid-S2 after it was discovered that EarthGov were performing unethical experiments with Shadow technology in order to find their own cure. More precisely, EarthForce was continuing the Shadowtech research from B5, including hybrid ships and turning humans into control cores. The Excalibur was going to end up on the run for a while. JMS also said that they would have found the cure in S2. That doesn’t mean they would have been able to return to Earth to apply it.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I don't like comparing this show to Star Trek, but its take on where fascism comes from and what you can do about it is a lot more thoughtful than the Star Trek versions, which I can only really understand because the good times ended a while ago. Didn't Star Trek have a 9/11 episode 2 years before 9/11?
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Idiot Doom Spiral posted:Didn't Star Trek have a 9/11 episode 2 years before 9/11? Deep Space 9 did, it also had an actor in that 2 part episode that is also on Babylon 5.
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Narsham posted:JMS also said that they would have found the cure in S2. That doesn’t mean they would have been able to return to Earth to apply it. Nah, the inference was the whole plot gets put to bed and the story moves on to EarthGov messing with Shadowtech.
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So am I correct in thinking that the only B5 movie on HBO Max is The Gathering and the rest have to be found elsewhere? Not that I mind dropping two bucks for Thirdspace on Amazon, but I just want to be certain. Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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Hey guys, I have a philosophical question about the Markab. Due to the plague, they were virtually wiped out, but not completely extinct due to a few small offworld pockets. I'm not sure if they were supposed to have viable numbers to repopulate, so assuming the worst case scenario, would you call their world un-re-Markab-le?
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Mar 16, 2021 16:17
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Goblin Craft posted:Hey guys, I have a philosophical question about the Markab. Due to the plague, they were virtually wiped out, but not completely extinct due to a few small offworld pockets. I'm not sure if they were supposed to have viable numbers to repopulate, so assuming the worst case scenario, would you call their world un-re-Markab-le? 
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Mar 16, 2021 16:30
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