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Yeah, from all reports, this is the cut that he had been working on before he got removed. There was a bunch of misinformation that he did extensive reshoots, but those were apparently much, much less than people were implying. While the studio was asking for a 2 hour cut, he was hoping he could convince them otherwise. And then everything that happened happened.
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So I know it streams on Thursday, but I assume it’s one time worldwide, right? No ability to do VPN like shenanigans I assume?
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Pirate Jet posted:According to Robot Style, who has posted info that has proven true before, he followed that up with a line about his axe “suckling” WW. So no, you’re right on the money that it’s mega creepy. There's also the part where he tells the Amazons, "You will love me!" and that's weird too.
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Burkion posted:Yeah, from all reports, this is the cut that he had been working on before he got removed. There was a bunch of misinformation that he did extensive reshoots, but those were apparently much, much less than people were implying. Snyder said before he left he showed WB 3 cuts; a 3 hour cut, a 2hr 40 minute cut, and a 2hr 20 minute cut. They told him to go back and make it 2 hours and that's when he decided to leave.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Snyder said before he left he showed WB 3 cuts; a 3 hour cut, a 2hr 40 minute cut, and a 2hr 20 minute cut. They told him to go back and make it 2 hours and that's when he decided to leave. And then WB first let Autumn be the reason (which honestly it was, the Zack and Deborah were trying to do it, but (quite understandably couldn’t), and then WB leaked out oh it’s because he hosed up, the daughter reason was us just being nice. It’s amazing just how much WB were dicks, I know people who really don’t like Zack’s vision and even they agree WB were monumental scum and they’re happy Zack can put out his version, even if they doubt they’ll like it. The funny thing is the whole Zack controversy in general is kind of weird, because unlike Joss, I’ve never heard anyone, industry or otherwise, have a bad thing to say about him or his wife. The cast and crew’s on his films all love him, his sets seem to be like a family working together, you never hear horror stories. Like it’s almost kind of perversely humorous in a way. Also when Deborah heard about stuff, she actually reported it to WB, which is something I respect.
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Mar 16, 2021 21:11
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https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1371919298780831745
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*Attendees must have an HBO Max account
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Mr. Apollo posted:*Attendees must have an HBO Max account Well that link answers my question about when it’s available....well unless it’s just for that event. Does anyone know for sure when it will be on HBOMax and if the time is a global release?
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Mar 16, 2021 21:24
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Zack Snyder has never seen the Whedon cut. Christopher Nolan went to the premier and as soon as it was over called Zack and told him he must never watch the film because it would be too heartbreaking.
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Mar 16, 2021 21:36
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Well that link answers my question about when it’s available....well unless it’s just for that event. I think it's going up at like midnight PST, there's a goonstream at 3AM but I've totally forgotten what timezone E: central! teagone posted:For the brave few:
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My official pre-Zack Snyder's Justice League DCEU rankings: Oh fun! Mine atm goes Top tier: Swamp thing Constantine History of violence Moss Beavis S-Skwad Watchmen Adam West and Burton batmen Mid tier: WW Supes Returns Donner Supes BoP Nolan trilogy Schumacher batmen Bottom tier: V for vendetta Shazam! Red Unknowns: The losers Green lantern Aquaman Jonah hex Ww84 Cartoon stuff that generally looks bad
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MazelTovCocktail posted:The funny thing is the whole Zack controversy in general is kind of weird, because unlike Joss, I’ve never heard anyone, industry or otherwise, have a bad thing to say about him or his wife. The cast and crew’s on his films all love him, his sets seem to be like a family working together, you never hear horror stories. Like it’s almost kind of perversely humorous in a way. He's very nice and always supported the department I was in at the studio when most of the productions found us super annoying. I'm excited to finally watch this. Everything that went down with the original was super depressing to hear about, and it'll be nice to see him get some vindication. I just hope it actually pulls in more than just the extremely online crowd who have been keeping tabs on it. Who knows if enough of the average watcher will look at HBO Max for it.
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Snyder is on his 3rd marriage I think? He's probably an American centrist politically? He's a Christian Scientist? These are the "worst" things that we know about, and they're not even necessarily problematic nor do they have any bearing on his filmography! John Wick of Dogs posted:Most of those are not DCEU  Warner Bros can't tell me what to do, those guys are bullshit!
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Blood Boils posted:Snyder is on his 3rd marriage I think? He's probably an American centrist politically? He's a Christian Scientist? Compare that to Superman Returns...the most cursed Superman of all time (nothing against Routh)
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Second marriage I think. Been with her since the early 2000s though
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I changed my mind, movie is a 0/10 https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1371890133612498944
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Heresy!
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Axel Serenity posted:He's very nice and always supported the department I was in at the studio when most of the productions found us super annoying. That’s cool to read. Like I said, it’s so weird he is so insanely divisive to people...when honestly he seems like a good human being, runs a professional set, treats people with respect...I mean he wasn’t even a dick to his minders on the set (granted at least one of them wasn’t happy about being a minder). That’s even ignoring the list of basic things you shouldn’t do, by virtue of having a basic sense of morality and don’t really deserve a pat on the back for...granted that is a bit of a challenge for Bryan Singer of Joss.
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It's all because he did something different. That's it. He didn't adhere to the way it was done before. He didn't suck Donner's dick. He did his own thing for the most part. And people decided it was a bridge too far. That nothing made sense. That it was wrong. When REALLY it all works and people are just being whiny loving babies. E: This is what you get when you adhere to the comics (excl Hawkeye - they didnt have the guts to make that costume) 
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Second marriage I think. Been with her since the early 2000s though Ah, I didn't check, just went off old memory of movie nerd hearsay
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Timeless Appeal posted:Look I think you guys are being way too literal with that scene, so let's not focus on it. Why are people okay with Dan being murdered while Superman can just helplessly watch and punch a city? Why are people okay with Superman being turned into a mind controlled soldier where it is absolutely implied that he kills people, becomes a pariah, goes on a revenge mission in which he is incinerating hordes of Parademons, fighting Darkseid, absolutely being framed in a scary light when he is throwing Darkseid off of a tower, only to find that Darkseid is too good a dictator for Superman to punch his people's free? Your examples are all wildly different and contextually different. Lois lane dies in the first superman movie? Sure, and then she gets brought back. Superman dying? Yeah except it's an elseworlds with its own rules. Dan turpin dying? Yeah, to a darkseid drive by. It's insistently comparing apples to oranges If you want to make a salient comparison, Compare it to the invasion of NYC in Avengers, where similar widespread destruction is caused (well, sorta) and how much more sanitized and in line with the DCAU it is. That's what the expectation of a superhero blockbuster was. Cars being destroyed, buildings collapse, but you don't see anyone crushed by the rubble, it's all harmless fun! No one complained about all the Audis being crushed in that film. The point of the original comparison was that despite featuring pretty similar circumstances, one was considered unpalatable and jarring, while the other was standard fare genre action. The reason why the MoS scenes were considered jarring is because it shows the brutal consequences of two gods having a street brawl in a densely populated urban area, even going so far as to evoke 9/11. It divorces the coolness from the genre fantasy of knocking a dude through a building because it shows people die when you do that. It doesn't sanitize or normalize the violence, instead it's portrayed as shocking and devastating. No one thought that Superman got anyone killed when he yeeted Darkseid through 6 highrises in that DCAU show, and that wasn't the intent of that scene either. But that's the inescapable conclusion one draws in MoS because how the action is framed. And that got people pretty upset. Which was the original point Vintersorg posted:It's all because he did something different. God that cap outfit is hideous. And what's worse is that they had an amazing Cap outfit from The first avenger, and still chose to go with that abomination
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McCloud posted:God that cap outfit is hideous. And what's worse is that they had an amazing Cap outfit from The first avenger, and still chose to go with that abomination Johansson there has a very "what the hell am I doing" stare.
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I think a lot of criticism about Snyder is reverse engineered from 300 which I think rightfully deserves a lot of criticism.
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Good movie, terrible costume lolPiell posted:I changed my mind, movie is a 0/10 Trash movie, failures in all regards
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think a lot of criticism about Snyder is reverse engineered from 300 which I think rightfully deserves a lot of criticism.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There’s a ton of intersexuality with Man Of Steel Lmao I suppose this would likely also be a popular if controversial film but
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RBA Starblade posted:
the worst spoiler
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I watched a bit of BvS Ultimate Cut today while doing various things, and noticed two things I hadn't noticed before: In the Day of the Dead sequence, Superman actually is smiling as he saves the girl, and then stops when the crowd all start worshiping him. In the extended Knightmare sequence, they briefly show a post-apocalyptic bus - it's been a long time since I've seen Dawn of the Dead, but is this the same bus that they modify and drive out of the mall at the end? I noticed the BvS bus had the slit cut down the side and I remember the DotD bus having that for chainsaw access.
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MoS BvSU Suicide Squad Aquaman WW Birds of Prey Shazam WW84 There hasn't been a Justice League movie released, in any year, and I will watch the first Justice League ever made on Thursday.
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More likehiddenriverninja posted:the worst poster
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This is way late and I'm surprised if it never got made in the first place, but I got a weird urge to make a meme of Joss Whedon as Mr. Burns at the Springfield film festival saying "Are you saying saying 'boo,' or 'booyah?'" I'm lazy though, someone help me
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Chairman Capone posted:I watched a bit of BvS Ultimate Cut today while doing various things, and noticed two things I hadn't noticed before: That scene is also a callback to his scene in MoS with him drowning in skulls https://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-skulls-meaning-zack-snyder/ "Specifically, that Zod showed Clark a dream in which he was swallowed up by the skulls of the dead he would never save if Zod's plan to take over Earth became real. Soon after, the devastation of their battle cost thousands of lives. And finally, he finds himself surrounded by skulls and skeletons in the next film, unable to let go of the dead or be the 'savior' they want him to be. Check out the full analysis below, and who shows up to confirm that it's right on the money:"
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Compare that to Superman Returns...the most cursed Superman of all time (nothing against Routh) Are you just saying that because of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, or are there stories to go with that?
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roffels posted:Are you just saying that because of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, or are there stories to go with that? Singer and Spacey. I don’t know of any stories offhand, I haven’t looked into it, but I have no trouble in believing that bad things by those two probably happened during filming. Not I’m concert, just their normal awful behavior.
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Reading the Snydercut book and its actually pretty fascinating "Release the Snyder Cut" posted:"It was during, I think, [2019's] Comic-Con where there was an article written that said, 'The biggest Warner Bros. and DC presence at Comic-Con this year is for a movie they'd never released.' Which I was like, 'Holy poo poo, that's amazing," Snyder said. "We did all these analytics. And when we went in to talk to Warner Bros. about possibly releasing the movie, I said to them in the boardroom, 'You realize, I don't know if you're aware of it, but the biggest, the most volume for any social media campaign for movie Warner Bros has ever done is for a movie that you guys never
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Martman posted:This is way late and I'm surprised if it never got made in the first place, but I got a weird urge to make a meme of Joss Whedon as Mr. Burns at the Springfield film festival saying "Are you saying saying 'boo,' or 'booyah?'" we got you 
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roffels posted:Are you just saying that because of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, or are there stories to go with that? If I had to take a guess it was probably because it was a terrible idea from the get-go. It blended goofy camp with some seriously dark and creepy stuff, adding a strange tonal shift. You have Superman leaving Earth to see Krypton and then coming back, ditching pregnant Lois to raise a half-Kryptonian kid on her own. He comes back, saves a plane, and Lex gets his money back by being a gigolo. Then you've got Lex stealing Kryptonian tech, making a kryptonite blade, and beating the poo poo out of Superman while stabbing him. Lex's thug menacingly playing the piano and revealing that weird tattoo on top of his head is probably a nice analogy for the entire film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzprFJHy9X4 It's super uncomfortable.
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AccountSupervisor posted:Reading the Snydercut book and its actually pretty fascinating That quote reminds me of game modders compared to professionals
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