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New Yorp New Yorp posted:My wife is the only one I talk to on a regular basis, and it's usually short communication like "I'm on my way home, do you need anything from the grocery store? Okay, text me a list." ...you should be operating on a shared notes or shared google docs grocery list by now anyway.
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hexwren posted:This sentence from the netiquette memo now means the opposite of what it meant.
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Ham radio I think would qualify as a valid precursor to netiquette. Related, recently learned that the amateur radio community had figured out the Duga radar while some of the public was busy speculating about aliens or Soviet-related conspiracies (wonder who they voted for): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Gene Ray died in like 2015. He had another guy he worked with who was on the same crazy wavelength but he bullied him into suicide. Yeah, it was Gene he interviewed, this would have been ~2005. Looking back he signed his emails "Cubic and wisest human" lmao.
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Mar 15, 2021 16:40
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My parents got me a nice new printer when I first went away to college and I immediately drained the ink printing out Timecube to decorate the walls of my dorm room. I then had to print out my assignments at the library because I was too embarrassed to tell them why I needed a new ink cartridge. Can't wait to tell that story to children of the future.
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You're going to tell your children about your college rasterbation habits?
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Mar 15, 2021 19:47
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I'm sure there are worse stories of why people need more ink cartridges out there, dude.
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Mar 15, 2021 19:55
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Look, not everyone can carry printers, alright. You have to be a certain size, one that lets you comfortably put your arm on top of a vending machine.
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Y'all some goony rear end people. I also hate talking on the phone generally, but sometimes it's just a good way of communicating. If you're doing stuff while talking for instance, or you don't actually need to see the person you're taking to. I've spent several hours in a row on the phone chit chatting with my co-workers during the pandemic for instance, sometimes while taking a walk or something. And that's almost excluding actual work conversations. I just don't have a need to talk to everyone that way, so most of my friends I'm waiting to actually see again. My wife also has lengthy phone conversations with family and friends. Phone calls are not dead.
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Mar 15, 2021 21:17
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I haven't talked with a friend on the phone in years.
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Mar 15, 2021 21:24
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I've never liked talking on the phone something that I apperently inherited from my father. Which is good when I talk to my dad on the phone because it's never going to be more than a couple of minutes no matter what we're discussing.
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Mar 15, 2021 22:53
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feedmyleg posted:I haven't talked with a friend on the phone in years. Perhaps if you had some friends.......
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Mar 15, 2021 23:38
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I loved this Sesame Street bit when I was a kid. Literally nothing about it is remains current in our era, except the police officer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLgF1CA56yg
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FreudianSlippers posted:I've never liked talking on the phone something that I apperently inherited from my father. Which is good when I talk to my dad on the phone because it's never going to be more than a couple of minutes no matter what we're discussing. The icelandic experience summed up.
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Alhazred posted:The icelandic experience summed up. I would be lying if I said fishing and how bountiful, or not, the sea had been lately wasn't a frequent topic of discussion.
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Mar 16, 2021 19:08
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It's funny how smartphones and universal phone use quickly extinguished a whole lot of earlier cellphone related stuff like txt speak. People really were concerned that the whole language would degenerate 1984 style, and we'd irradiate our balls to sterility from keeping phones in our front pocket.
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Mar 17, 2021 12:40
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Jaguars! posted:People really were concerned that the whole language would degenerate 1984 style
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Mar 17, 2021 13:18
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When videotapes first became a thing people were worried that no one would ever read a book again because why would you when you could watch any film you wanted at any time at home?
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My Lovely Horse posted:still not convinced it isn't happening frankly Completely agreed! I mean, just look at this scum not using capital letters or punctuation: My Lovely Horse posted:still not convinced it isn't happening frankly
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Mar 17, 2021 13:28
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FreudianSlippers posted:When videotapes first became a thing people were worried that no one would ever read a book again because why would you when you could watch any film you wanted at any time at home? I mean, this is somewhat true, people read less.
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Mar 17, 2021 13:39
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Text speak destroyed proper writing when the telegraph was invented. Also writing things down destroyed young people's ability to learn stuff.
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I talk to my parents on the phone and that's about it, and that's because my mum is and always has been a complete technophobe (which was sort of amusing when she was still a primary school teacher and expected to teach 6 year olds how to use computers).
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BonHair posted:Text speak destroyed proper writing when the telegraph was invented. Yeah, every time there is a new form of communication or new form of media, there is always this kind of social response/backlash. Netflix's documentary The Social Dilemma talks about the internet and social media in the same kind of way--in a way that suggests that their negative effects on society are totally new and unprecedented. But really social media and the internet are just a more extreme version of movies/music/cable TV, and huge parts of the documentary could have been written in the 80's about cable TV, or about radio or newspapers when they first became prevalent, etc.
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That's a great image; there are sort of two different points here though; people not realizing that the arc of their own personal life isn't anything new isn't the same thing as recognizing that societies change. I'm not saying you're mistaking the two, but I wanted to draw a distinction between "nobody reads anymore" and "reading (books) is declining".
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silence_kit posted:Yeah, every time there is a new form of communication or new form of media, there is always this kind of social response/backlash. There are people who were complaining about the novel when they first came out, claiming it was leading women to immorality. And look at where we are today. WAP would have never been written if not for the novel, I tell you!
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FreudianSlippers posted:I would be lying if I said fishing and how bountiful, or not, the sea had been lately wasn't a frequent topic of discussion. ""Hòw ìs the sèà, sòn?" "Hàrsh ànd ùfòrgìvìng, bùt ìt ìs bòùntìfùl." "Ì dò sò ènjòy thèsè tàlks, sòn. Lèts dò ìt àgàìn nèxt jòl." FreudianSlippers posted:When videotapes first became a thing people were worried that no one would ever read a book again because why would you when you could watch any film you wanted at any time at home? Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Mar 17, 2021 19:07
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I dunno, ladies today seem much cooler and laid back
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Alhazred posted:When writing down stuff became a thing Socrates was worried that people would be incapable of remembering stuff. He wasn't even wrong, the building of mind palaces and the extreme feats of memory people at that time could achieve eventually faded away and stopped being a thing. It's just that it's also not that big a deal because we had things written down so we didn't need to dedicate that mental space to memory. Things shift and change that makes them different, not worse.
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Captain Monkey posted:He wasn't even wrong, the building of mind palaces and the extreme feats of memory people at that time could achieve eventually faded away and stopped being a thing. It's just that it's also not that big a deal because we had things written down so we didn't need to dedicate that mental space to memory. Things shift and change that makes them different, not worse. Once you reach a certain age, different and worse become the same thing.
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I just watched an episode of Mad About You where they make a videotape for their daughter on her 18th birthday, but its on tape, as an VHS VIDEOTAPE.
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People still say "tape" when they talk about recording video. I don't know anyone all that young though, so maybe it's all "record" or "unlivestream" something.
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doctorfrog posted:People still say "tape" when they talk about recording video. I don't know anyone all that young though, so maybe it's all "record" or "unlivestream" something. Yeah, and people called removable storage media "floppy disks" long after they hadn't been floppy for ages. I called them floppies despite never having seen an 8 inch actually-floppy disk. The 5.25 disks weren't all that floppy, and the 3.5 inch disks weren't floppy at all! I don't know why, but the transition from rectangular removable storage to round removable storage killed the "floppy". New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Mar 17, 2021 22:00
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:the 3.5 inch disks weren't floppy at all!
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Captain Monkey posted:He wasn't even wrong, the building of mind palaces and the extreme feats of memory people at that time could achieve eventually faded away and stopped being a thing. It's just that it's also not that big a deal because we had things written down so we didn't need to dedicate that mental space to memory. Things shift and change that makes them different, not worse. also, wap isn't even that new, it's a proud part of a time-honored tradition. here's a song from 1935: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPCmIxv-3k
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Yeah, and people called removable storage media "floppy disks" long after they hadn't been floppy for ages. I called them floppies despite never having seen an 8 inch actually-floppy disk. The 5.25 disks weren't all that floppy, and the 3.5 inch disks weren't floppy at all! I don't know why, but the transition from rectangular removable storage to round removable storage killed the "floppy".
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I can learn more than Socrates knew in his entire life in 15 minutes online
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FreudianSlippers posted:I can learn more than Socrates knew in his entire life in 15 minutes online And yet you don't know how to change a tire. Curious. e: that might actually be thread relevant, because aren't modern tires a hell of a lot more robust? I've never had a flat and I drove cross-continent multiple times as a dumbass kid (ie like four years ago) without doing any maintenance at all, never until recently took the tire pressure light seriously, never in my life have a had a flat or blowout or had anyone in my family or friend group have a flat. One blowout among them on a 20+ year old piece of poo poo. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Mar 17, 2021 23:48
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Socrates wouldn't even know what a tyre is.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:And yet you don't know how to change a tire. Curious. that sounds about right. i know how to change a tire, but i've only ever done it like twice in a not-learning-how setting, and neither were emergency situations, just a slow overnight leak. most people i know that can't change a tire probably could if they tried, they just haven't had to since they learned 20 years ago. but in the end they are still following the socratic method of changing a tire, which is not changing a tire at all (except that unlike socrates they know what a tire is)
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