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By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!



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thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Isn't singapore in like, asian typhoon alley?

I mean, it kinda makes sense. Kinda. But how much power are they going to lose with their 3700km extension cord?

Singapore is pretty much surrounded by Malaysia and Indonesia, gets tons of rain but is almost perfectly sheltered from typhoons. One of the reasons it's such a great place for a port. If you ever go to the beach there the biggest waves you'll see are like a foot high.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qpwrbiLoad1w5pr9j.mp4

Colonic Irrigation :eyepop:

Decorus
Aug 26, 2015

GD_American posted:

I got to meet one of the guys that helped save the Samuel B; the mine had broken the keel and knocked its engines off mount, killing power at a crucial time. They basically got every come-along and chainfall they could find, connected at points across the break, and hinged the bottom of the ship back shut, which is mind-bogglingly :psyduck: when you think of the numbers involved there in weight and force.

That must've made the rebuild a piece of cake. Destroyers are pretty much designed like lego kits, if HMS Zubian is anything to go by.

Poldarn
Feb 18, 2011

MikeCrotch posted:

The most OSHA thread event was probably Japanese aircraft carrier Taiho, which took a hit that cracked her aviation gas tanks and started filling the ship with gasoline vapour. This was obviously a problem so the damage control teams open up all the vents to get fresh air...which turned the atmosphere of the ship into the perfect ratio for a fuel air bomb, leading to the ship to explode and sink 6 1/2 hours later.

Wikipedia posted:

About 14:30 that afternoon, 6½ hours after the initial torpedo hit, Taihō was jolted by a severe explosion. A senior staff officer on the bridge saw the flight deck heave up, and the sides of the ship blew out.

That thing exploded like a cartoon cigar.

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
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By popular demand posted:

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

shame on an IGA posted:

You left out the best part: The whole thing started when an IR countermeasure flare ignited accidentally and someone in a panic picked it up and threw it into the flare storage locker.

“I’ll just put this over here with the rest of the fire.”

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

thekeeshman posted:

Singapore is pretty much surrounded by Malaysia and Indonesia, gets tons of rain but is almost perfectly sheltered from typhoons. One of the reasons it's such a great place for a port. If you ever go to the beach there the biggest waves you'll see are like a foot high.

So it's like, in a wall of Sound?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Are we still doing military chat? If so, I present thee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8KpBhozfOw

That poor guy can't be sent to Korea too soon before he hurts himself.

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 17, 2021

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

By popular demand posted:

How do you get the crew to stay around for six loving hours on a floating bomb?

Floating bomb is the usual state of a warship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Naval_magazine_explosions

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 25 hours!
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Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time




From the A-10 Pilots Coloring Book.

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Dec 25, 2020

 
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oh my god that poor train driver must have been making GBS threads bricks

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Platystemon posted:

Reminds me of the USS Texas after D‐Day. One of her less‐essential compartments was intentionally flooded because the resulting list allowed her guns to elevate further and lobs shells on Nazi positions further inland.

I'm not sure if that's better or worse how in WWI they straight up build boats to just have 1 giant fuckoff gun to fill that role. Literally "Well we have these big guns, but building the ship it's supposed to go on is too expensive to do...let's slap it on a way too small boat."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8QwHdm1RU

Wait until you get a load of the torpedo bulges love handles on that ship.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Nenonen posted:

Are we still doing military chat? If so, I present thee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8KpBhozfOw

That poor guy can't be sent to Korea too soon before he hurts himself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNA2PRFiDr4

Alkydere posted:

I'm not sure if that's better or worse how in WWI they straight up build boats to just have 1 giant fuckoff gun to fill that role. Literally "Well we have these big guns, but building the ship it's supposed to go on is too expensive to do...let's slap it on a way too small boat."

ahh, harbor monitors. when all you need is to put a giant loving gun in the water on a technically mobile platform, to defend a specific area or blast the poo poo out of anything within range of your slow, fragile ship

optimizing the platform to get the most literal bang for your buck

the old school equivalent is the "gun boat", in actuality just "how little ship do we need to get this gun floating". a very cheap way to get some short range naval power, old school navies working on a tight budget would have dozens of these things and just a few actual ocean going ships. this example has a luxurious three guns, but it was common enough to have just one, bigger gun on a hull, where the hull only needs to be large enough to not fall apart when the gun is fired

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 17, 2021

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Alkydere posted:

I'm not sure if that's better or worse how in WWI they straight up build boats to just have 1 giant fuckoff gun to fill that role. Literally "Well we have these big guns, but building the ship it's supposed to go on is too expensive to do...let's slap it on a way too small boat."

It’s so stupid and I love it

It’s like something from a videogame that has ship customisation without a lot of rules.

e: big guns on small boats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cO2D4rjQ1o&t=156s

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 17, 2021

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Platystemon posted:

It’s so stupid and I love it

It’s like something from a videogame that has ship customisation without a lot of rules.


You are going to love All or Nothing: Waves of Steel then
Forum's poster TooMuchAbstraction is working on this thing and in spite of us volunteer testers driving him to tears and laughter daily with our mad designs, he has managed to make a really solid game already.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1482750/All_Or_Nothing_Waves_of_Steel/

SerthVarnee fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Mar 17, 2021

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

Is this an OSHA approved method of securing parts being welded? Start at 9:50 if the link doesn't work...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1oKkvCQUg&t=590s

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Another antiair piece from the Great War:

https://twitter.com/PikeGrey1418/status/1323359855156072455

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

Weembles posted:

Is this an OSHA approved method of securing parts being welded? Start at 9:50 if the link doesn't work...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1oKkvCQUg&t=590s


Tim's entire approach to welding is pretty haphazard. Later he says "I've made a pig's ear of it".

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I know it's cliche to rag on Adam Savage, but c'mon!



His back foot is on his table saw, which is on casters.



And the lathe that already hurt him once.

Uthor fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Mar 18, 2021

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 25 hours!
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I think it’s a Decepticon.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!



Come to think of it my day wasn't actually that bad comparatively.:piss:

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender
Wheels that go sideways seem... wrong.

https://twitter.com/MachinePix/status/1371970013721202688

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


In DC a crane tipped over at a construction site today.




They had a hell of a time getting it righted and ended up dropping it again.

https://twitter.com/tweedelman/status/1372248366051168256



Though, they eventually worked it out.

https://twitter.com/hanna_h_jenkins/status/1372261912285745153

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.



Good for landing in extreme crosswinds

Goreld
May 8, 2002

"Identity Crisis" MurdererWild Guess Bizarro #1Bizarro"Me am first one I suspect!"

Uthor posted:

I know it's cliche to rag on Adam Savage, but c'mon!



His back foot is on his table saw, which is on casters.



And the lathe that already hurt him once.

Is he intentionally trolling by standing on the First Aid sign?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

glynnenstein posted:

They had a hell of a time getting it righted and ended up dropping it again.

https://twitter.com/tweedelman/status/1372248366051168256

Classic international hands-on head signal for "I'm watching a balls-up"

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Being an American sailor in the tropics in World War II was miserable; the ships were not designed to keep cool. Some sailors would sleep in hammocks along the edges of the ship, and whenever it made a turn, the hammock would be dangling out over the open ocean.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


glynnenstein posted:

In DC a crane tipped over at a construction site today.




They had a hell of a time getting it righted and ended up dropping it again.

https://twitter.com/tweedelman/status/1372248366051168256



Though, they eventually worked it out.

https://twitter.com/hanna_h_jenkins/status/1372261912285745153

I interned at [Earthmoving Equipment Manufacturer Here]

DO YOU KNOW HOW STUPID YOU HAVE YO BE TO TIP A CRANE

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

Potato Salad posted:

I interned at [Earthmoving Equipment Manufacturer Here]

DO YOU KNOW HOW STUPID YOU HAVE YO BE TO TIP A CRANE

Isn't there a load vs extension vs angle chart that literally tells you exactly what the crane can and cannot do?

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Jesus that poo poo's hilarious.

If you guys want to read a very detailed version of the Sammy B's damage control, this is fascinating reading:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2015/05/22/saving-sammy-b-a-frigate-s-heroic-legacy/

quote:

Before leaving on deployment, however, Rinn, Van Hook, Sorensen and the executive officer, Lt. Cmdr. John Eckelberry, made sure they had learned the lessons from the Stark.

The ship collected double the required number of oxygen breathing apparatus outfits and OBA canisters on board. Sammy B also had three times the requisite AFFF barrels on board (a soapy, foaming agent used to smother fires), and it had a hand-held infrared fire-finder. All those were recommendations gleaned from the Stark's near-sinking.

The crew also departed with plenty of gas-powered P-250 pumps, which can be used for pumping out flood water if the ship's on-board pumps failed, or for an emergency source of firefighting water if the ship's firemain fails.

"We definitely had more than we were authorized to have on board," said Eckelberry. "We actually had to get creative — we ordered repair parts and had our guys build them."

Thanks to the ruse, the ship had two extra P-250 pumps and, for Rinn, those extra steps ahead of deployment would mean the difference between life and death.

"P-250s can be music to your ears," Rinn remarked at a 1990 damage control conference, according to the April/May 1990 issue of Surface Warfare Magazine.

"Every day underway I demanded reports on the status of my dehydrators and on my P-250s, such as, How many did we run last night? And how many are we running tonight? And how many are online? You think that's redundant? I'm here to say that Roberts is alive today because we did that."

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Isn't there a load vs extension vs angle chart that literally tells you exactly what the crane can and cannot do?

Yep, sometimes even painted on the arm of the crane.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Listen buddy, we all know that chart is written by the wussies at the insurance companies. I've been operating this thing for years, I know what it can *really* do

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


over 3 months, I learned that a second year physics student doesn't have much to contribute to poo poo outside of kind of just being a gopher for simple things, that I will never be qualified to operate heavy equipment, and that engineers really do try really goddamn hard to make sure that heavy equipment doesn't injure people, because the liability is extraordinary for this type of use case.

Okay so there's this thing called a factor of safety in engineering. Basically like if this specific bolt model snaps at an average of 100 psi, you'll multiply that by like 70% for something dummy safe so they're rated for 70 psi. If they're for a doll house, you'd probably get like a 90 psi. Safety codes i don't know about, but the more dangerous a failure, the higher the factor of safety. This can be applied to designing structures (what's the max load we think this will take x >100% FOS), or load limits for bridges, trailers, and cranes.

y'all are probably already plenty aware of what a factor of safety is

A crane failing and tipping over can cause catastrophic amounts of damage and harm, so I don't know the exact number but their FOS is going to be very high. Like, if you told me it was like a factor of 2 (so max load 100lbs before tipping, it's only rated for 50lbs) or more I wouldn't be surprised. There's safety measures in places as far as foundation, boom angles, boom length, and those all go into a math equation to give you your rated load. you are literally handed a guidebook with these figures calculated ahead of time 0

To tip a crane you have to
Be negligent in making sure the foundation is suitable
And/or
Be negligent in checking your maximum rated loads for your boom/angle
And you have to be so loving negligent in this that you completely pass the factor of safety and hit the fail limit.

And in the above picture, that's not a foundation failure, it's literally still propped on the road so they had to overload this poor crane past anything it was EVER rated to hold.

osha really doesn't like cranes tipping if you were wondering

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Okay yeah factor of safety looks like... I found a FOS of 5 quickly scanning the OSHA guidelines linked in a doc So if the fail load was calculated to be 100lbs, it'd be rated for 20lbs.

1926.753(e)(2)

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Mar 18, 2021

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Aaaand then you get normalized deviance and your safety factor disappears.

Machinery needs to be designed so that if you go above the published safe limit something expensive breaks and has to be repaired, so no-one can get uaed to exceeding the published limit with nothing going wrong and then they qccidentally hit the hard limit.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Goreld posted:

Is he intentionally trolling by standing on the First Aid sign?

Lotta danger-cringe when I watched the same video earlier.


I.E.

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Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Chamale posted:

Being an American sailor in the tropics in World War II was miserable; the ships were not designed to keep cool. Some sailors would sleep in hammocks along the edges of the ship, and whenever it made a turn, the hammock would be dangling out over the open ocean.

Fun related fact:



This is an E-2 Hawkeye. It operates from aircraft carriers. Notice how much distance there is from the main landing gear back to the tail? Well to save space on the flight deck, it's common for them to be parked so that main gear is backed up right to the edge of the deck, with the tail hanging out over the water.

Normally as part of the preflight walk around, one of the crew members is supposed to climb up on top of the fuselage to make sure everything is good. However, in a bit of good OSHA sense, this is prohibited if the tail is sticking out over the water. Instead you're supposed to just poke your head up out the top hatch and look around from there.

Of course, it's not uncommon to think you're good, and get up there only to realize that it's covered in ice, or you're parked behind the jet blast of a jet that's about to take off, or any of the multitude of other ways a flight deck can try to kill you.

The Lone Badger posted:

Aaaand then you get normalized deviance and your safety factor disappears.

Machinery needs to be designed so that if you go above the published safe limit something expensive breaks and has to be repaired, so no-one can get uaed to exceeding the published limit with nothing going wrong and then they qccidentally hit the hard limit.

I think this was mentioned in one of the Deviant Ollam elevator videos that's been posted here before. In most elevators if the penultimate safety stop triggers it will disable the entire elevator until a technician comes out to reset it, because that stop should never be hit unless there's something drastically wrong.

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