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Hollismason posted:Like seriously what director goes " Yeah everyone has flat screens now, 4:3 is the ratio that Imma go with". Whole movie is trash because of that. Televisions are designed to strike a balance between both wider and taller aspect ratios. What you're getting upset about is entirely psychological, because you're not actually losing that much screen space with the more boxy aspect ratios.
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the widescreen tvs actually cut the top and bottom off movies, 4:3 is the preferred aspect ratio of connoisseurs because it shows the whole picture
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Hollismason posted:Like seriously what director goes " Yeah everyone has flat screens now, 4:3 is the ratio that Imma go with". Whole movie is trash because of that. Are you aware most movies aren’t in 16:9?
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I completely forgot about the aspect ratio as I was watching it until the final cool commercial everyone standing in a line pose at the very end
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Mar 18, 2021 19:46
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Has anyone gone through the soundtrack yet? I'm trying to find the song that plays during The Flash Rewind
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Mantis42 posted:the widescreen tvs actually cut the top and bottom off movies, 4:3 is the preferred aspect ratio of connoisseurs because it shows the whole picture Sometimes.
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It's officially the dumbest part of SnyderCut discourse because 4:3 has literally been having a big resurgence over the past decade: https://noamkroll.com/why-the-old-school-43-aspect-ratio-is-coming-back-with-a-vengeance-right-now/ https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/4-3-aspect-ratio Edit: worth noting that 2.35:1 was treated like a gimmick when it first came out, as movies were promising More Screen to compete against television's rising popularity. Fritz Lang disparaged CinemaScope, saying it was "only good for filming snakes and funerals." Nroo fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Honestly, I didn't even notice the aspect ratio because the film uses what it has perfectly. It's not like they shot it widescreen then cropped everything. Snyder framed each shot and the DP lite it for that aspect ratio.
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Jimbot posted:Honestly, I didn't even notice the aspect ratio because the film uses what it has perfectly. It's not like they shot it widescreen then cropped everything. Snyder framed each shot and the DP lite it for that aspect ratio.
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lmao this movie was absolutely not better than the already bad original. or even different. it was the same poo poo, rearranged, dragged out to twice the length with boring exposition and slomo shots you people are diseased
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Mar 18, 2021 19:57
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Calm down.
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If you like a movie you have a health condition
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mikeycp posted:lmao this movie was absolutely not better than the already bad original. or even different. it was the same poo poo, rearranged, dragged out to twice the length with boring exposition and slomo shots How many posts do you have in the gbs red letter media thread?
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Hollismason posted:Like seriously what director goes " Yeah everyone has flat screens now, 4:3 is the ratio that Imma go with". Whole movie is trash because of that. from what I know the movie was originally shot in that aspect ratio with Imax screens in mind, and the 2017 release cropped large portions of the screen to make it widescreen (and also lovely-looking). so when releasing a new cut of the film it came down to either cropping the image again, reshooting EVERY SINGLE SCENE from scratch in widescreen, or just working with the 4:3 aspect ratio even though nobody in their right mind is going to an Imax in 2021. it's the most sensible solution and really not that big a deal tbqh
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Roth posted:How many posts do you have in the gbs red letter media thread? You have to answer this question
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hiddenriverninja posted:Has anyone gone through the soundtrack yet? I'm trying to find the song that plays during The Flash Rewind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQZ5_3s4ltU  This movie is reigniting some careers. It's wholesome AF.
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abraham linksys posted:did Whedon's cut try to solve that "problem"? I wouldn't say so. It actually goes in the opposite direction- the Flash intro is cut and we see him first talking to his dad, then Batman meeting him (other than the CCTV). Cyborg chats with his dad a little the first time we see him, but it's never explained what his dad did (also, he apparently just learns to fly in his sleep lol). Some of Batman and Superman are a bit sanded off, especially the scene where they talk about ressurecting Superman (incidentally, this is where Cyborg spends a sentence explaining his origin). So in that regard it's easier to watch? But I wouldn't say so overall. I was watching the dad/Flash scene and lol at Whedon's gag there, it's pretty good. e: "You're going in circles, Barry..." also the epilogue scene would have been a perfect moment to set up Flashpoint if someone was stupid enough to want to do that as a movie. like "I know how to get you out, Dad" Quotey fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Danger posted:He originally intended to film it for imax, IMAX is 1.9:1 though, much more rectangular than 4:3 Pirate Jet posted:Are you aware most movies aren’t in 16:9? Even if they aren't, if you're going to do a non-standard aspect why not pick 16:9 or 1.9:1 instead of 4:3??
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KVeezy3 posted:To actually get anything from a 'bad' film, you'd have to explicate anything specifically. Oh, don't worry. I'm pausing this film every couple of minutes to talk to myself about what I think is terrible. It's great fun. Often it's basic shot-to-shot transitions that Snyder apparently find difficult. But! There are shots that look good on their own and would make for nice posters. I think that pretty much sums up Snyder's oeuvre.
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So watching Batman being a suicidal maniac for the entire film just for the Joker calling him out for never having the cojones to actually die was pretty good. Though the epilogue just makes me want the Ayer cut all that much more. But yeah, those four hours just flew by, great film, the most Snyder of films. The parademons were a perfect mix of creepy and Kirby. The introduction to the Flash was fantastic, and him saving the day at the end, goddamn. And all the violence in this was so goddamn brutal. Steppenwolf's cute bat face reminded me something. but I can't quite place what... Small Soldiers? I'm glad we live in a society that allowed this film to be released.
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Zaphod42 posted:IMAX is 1.9:1 though, much more rectangular than 4:3 As I understand it, 4:3 is the shape of film anyway, but is normally cut down to a wider ratio for cinemas. Rather than cut it down to the IMAX ratio, standard TV or standard cinema they’ve just kept it as is.
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The film was clearly shot and "protected" for multiple aspect ratios, back in 2016, so it could be shown in IMAX and also cropped in widescreen for standard theaters. This was the case for many films during the transition to widescreen as not every theater was updated. And directors like Kubrick protected his shots so that the framing would be intact on 4:3 TVs. Snyder is releasing JL in 4:3 because it's the full, uncropped image. Here's an example of how a film is shot and projected in multiple aspect ratios by design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7-aMi4Rr-4
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Mera pulling out Steppenwolf's blood-water is still one of the coolest thingscargohills posted:As I understand it, 4:3 is the shape of film anyway, but is normally cut down to a wider ratio for cinemas. Rather than cut it down to the IMAX ratio, standard TV or standard cinema they’ve just kept it as is. I mean film comes in different shapes and sizes, and people shoot digital half the time nowadays  IMAX has its own bespoke film so I can't imagine it would be in another aspect you'd have to "cut down" to get IMAX footage out of it. Nroo posted:And directors like Kubrick protected his shots so that the framing would be intact on 4:3 TVs. Yeah sure but nobody has 4:3 TVs anymore. That DID make sense then, but now it doesn't.
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Watching it again and gently caress me the use of "Flight" is beautiful and gets me every time
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fart simpson posted:apparently if you have the right brain worms then yes it does as evidenced by posters in this thread mikeycp posted:you people are diseased Please don't weaponise health conditions in CineD, or use other thinly veiled ableist attacks. If this is too difficult for you, please find somewhere else to post.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah sure but nobody has 4:3 TVs anymore. Excuse me?! https://twitter.com/thatsgoodweb/status/1368706476479553542
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lol okay that owns Count me as another person who didn't even notice Lighthouse was 4:3, I guess because it was Black & White I just accepted it.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah sure but nobody has 4:3 TVs anymore. Snyder shot on 35mm film, in 4:3, in such a way that it would be framed correctly in both IMAX and cropped 1.85:1 in standard cinemas. He's releasing it now in full 4:3 so that all the imagery remains with no cropping.
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The only bad shot/fx I remember was that one of Luthor standing in the water at the beginning. Like they couldn't even make the water ripple a little or something?
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Zaphod42 posted:lol okay that owns It's fun aspect ratio to play in. Wes Anderson uses it masterfully. Grand Budapest from 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fg5iWmQjwk French Dispatch which was supposed to come out last year but is right now delayed to late 2021 plays around with it too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKaCY-gm1h4
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Nroo posted:Snyder shot on 35mm film, in 4:3, in such a way that it would be framed correctly in both IMAX and cropped 1.85:1 in standard cinemas. He's releasing it now in full 4:3 so that all the imagery remains with no cropping. Yeah but if you shoot it intending to crop for 1.85:1 or 1.9:1 then that implies that your cameras had filters to display those ratios during filming and you set up your cameras using those aspects as guides for where the action needed to be. At which point showing the 4:3 is less like showing the "full unedited movie" and more like almost showing a "behind the scenes" or "unedited master" type thing. Which is a cool blu-ray extra, but seems wrong for the definitive release of the Snyder Cut. Course after all this movie has gone through he can do whatever he wants
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When ur thrown away by Superman in Widescreen "I'm going off to my home planet!" When ur thrown away in GLORIOUS 4:3 SCREEN  "Oh no I'm going to loving fly forever" You should probably compare on your own since image quality kinda sucks for it. It just lets you show more at the top and bottom for some comic book panel stuff i guess?
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Serious question: did people trying filming in a 1:1 ratio for very long? How long did we go with it if we ever did?
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What if -- and bear with me here -- one aspect ratio isn't inherently better or worse than another and they're just artistic choices
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CelticPredator posted:WC How is this possible?!
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah but if you shoot it intending to crop for 1.85:1 or 1.9:1 then that implies that your cameras had filters to display those ratios during filming and you set up your cameras using those aspects as guides for where the action needed to be. It was shot for the 1.43:1 IMAX aspect ratio, not the 1.9:1 RBA Starblade posted:Serious question: did people trying filming in a 1:1 ratio for very long? How long did we go with it if we ever did? That's far more of a novelty but there are 2 examples I can think of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9LVLCYvqSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iQXpdcX33A Nroo fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:What if -- and bear with me here -- one aspect ratio isn't inherently better or worse than another and they're just artistic choices I generally agree but the thing is we all have 16:9 panels and rectangular movie screens and if you do 4:3 we end up wasting half the resolution on black pixels. Nroo posted:It was shot for the 1.43:1 IMAX aspect ratio, not the 1.9:1 Still doesn't change that it was meant to support both 1.43:1 and 1.85:1 then and 4:3 makes less sense than anything.
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RBA Starblade posted:Serious question: did people trying filming in a 1:1 ratio for very long? How long did we go with it if we ever did? I think in the very early days of film probably, but since film costs money and they tried to be efficient with film and screens and generally landscape view is more useful than portrait, they tended towards rectangular pretty quick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)#1:1 Yeah definitely a thing.
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