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Holy crêpes! Taiju!
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Guess that's the end of tbe series.
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Mar 14, 2021 18:07
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Mar 14, 2021 18:20
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A bunch of neat little details in this chapter on the second read-through. In the panel with the cards, there's three. Pay attention to the suits of these three aces. Which one is missing? Thus far (in this arc, anyway) no one from the Kingdom of Science has actually used lethal force towards Stanley's group. Look at how Ryusui is holding his gun on the pages where he's guarding Dr. Xeno. Chrome is nowhere to be seen during the final raid, but we can see Kaseki on the final spread. What's Chrome up to?
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Mar 14, 2021 18:34
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Something's really bugging me about this chapter, there's a trick laying in here somewhere, so I did a third read-through. A couple extra details I picked up on: 1. Ukyo is outside the fort, he's scouting the prisoners. Is he going to be a Plan B reviver? 2. On the final page, the diamonds are burned up and make a "sizzling" sound. The clean diamonds from Manaus don't work, maybe burned diamonds will? When Joel manage to reactivate the Medusa back in California, he used a blackened diamond. Can diamond even burn? And 3... what if I'm wrong about this assumption? SKULL.GIF posted:Thus far (in this arc, anyway) no one from the Kingdom of Science has actually used lethal force towards Stanley's group. Look at how Ryusui is holding his gun on the pages where he's guarding Dr. Xeno. Look at Ryusui's gun on the last few pages and what specifically he's doing. First he has his back to Xeno and is looking at the explosion. He's holding his gun up. Xeno taunts him. Ryusui turns towards Xeno, gun still pointing up. Then we get a very specific panel of the gun only, pointing at... something. Then a panel of Xeno sitting straight up (he was hunched over before) and looking nonplussed. On the very next panel, Ryusui's gun is pointing downwards as he's shot in the back (we know that because of the spray of blood coming out of the exit wound). What happened there? Did Ryusui shoot Xeno? Killing the hostage maybe was Ryusui and Senku's plan that they looked so very serious about at the beginning of the chapter after sending Chelsea/Luna away? If Xeno's dead, then Stanley has to resort to using the Medusa to revive him (and possibly the rest of the science brigade, if Stanley doesn't actually know how to use the Medusa). But that feels kinda out of character. Like I said, so far the Science Brigade hasn't actually attacked Stanley's group yet. Did Ryusui free Xeno? Senku/Gen knows Xeno has a spare Medusa, Xeno was observing Kaseki and Chrome working on the diamonds, maybe Xeno actually managed to finish his own Medusa? Maybe that was the plan Senku and Ryusui concocted, if they run out of options, free Xeno and trust him?
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Mar 14, 2021 21:17
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SKULL.GIF posted:Something's really bugging me about this chapter, there's a trick laying in here somewhere, so I did a third read-through. A couple extra details I picked up on: There’s no way they would kill Xeno, but maybe they injured him? Fascinating thought.
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Mar 14, 2021 21:24
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SKULL.GIF posted:Can diamond even burn? Yep, it produces CO2 with an oxygen redox.
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Mar 14, 2021 21:56
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Lethally injuring Xeno is absolutely the smartest thing they could do right now as it leaves Stanley with nothing if they don't go for a full petrification
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Mar 14, 2021 21:58
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I don’t think that really works since there’s no reason Xeno needs to heal all of them to heal himself. He can just do a 1 meter medusa beam or something.
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Mar 14, 2021 23:19
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I think it would be more "Xeno is now lethally wounded, and the only way to save him is to make a functioning medusa, so you have to leave our craftsman alive and let them work", and then just hope they can quietly fire off a huge blast and hope Stanley doesn't realize/anticipate the team sending someone out of range beforehand. I think the most wild thing is that they spent so long building that base and setting up defenses for them to be basically worthless. Obviously Sanley and co have guns/grenades/etc, but they apparently broke through the traps and defenses so easily it wasn't even shown.
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Mar 14, 2021 23:26
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LanceKing2200 posted:I think the most wild thing is that they spent so long building that base and setting up defenses for them to be basically worthless. Obviously Sanley and co have guns/grenades/etc, but they apparently broke through the traps and defenses so easily it wasn't even shown. In general I'm finding this last ramp up like they've decided to kick out of this arc rather than get mired down, which is good for me. But it does kinda feel like a retread of the climax of a previous arc.
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Mar 15, 2021 00:14
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SKULL.GIF posted:Something's really bugging me about this chapter, there's a trick laying in here somewhere, so I did a third read-through. A couple extra details I picked up on: Nice catch, the diamonds burning are definitely key. Diamonds will burn like wood if you have a high enough temp. It's likely the high heat from them burning is the energy that powers the device. The burnt diamonds don't work because it's like trying to start a wood stove with ashes when you need another junk of wood. The last science chapter also mentioned the diamonds Kaseki and Chrome made were way stronger than the working diamonds because of the cleavage planes. My guess: the cleavage planes exist to increase the diamond's surface area, which makes them easier to burn, and the medusa's ignition device doesn't have the energy to burn a solid diamond. Bigger guess: Senku realizes this next chapter and grabs any Medusa with an unburnt diamond and sets it on fire to activate it. All you need to turn on a medusa is the heat from a burning diamond, so it doesn't matter what shape it is once it's set aflame.
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Mar 15, 2021 03:59
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That Kari Byron video was super dope, I hope Crunchyroll does more of that kind of stuff. Give me a tennis pro talking about Prince of Tennis please! Thing are looking way more dire than I expected, but I appreciate them really raising the stakes here because this basically has to be the end of the feud with Stanley, and he's been set up as such a competent antagonist that our heroes really need to be up against it like never before. If they petrify Stanley I think he definitely moves into position as the new "Guy we need to unfreeze to save us from the even nastier badguy we're dealing with now."
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Mar 15, 2021 08:52
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I will say that "Trained military soldiers completely obliterate group of above-average intelligence high school kids" is probably the most realistic thing in this manga 
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Mar 15, 2021 13:14
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So today's episode of the anime got to "humanity's strongest tag team" as the anime chose to call it, tsukasa and senku vs hyoga and uh...I forgot how much of a dick he was. I kinda hope he is too far gone to come back. Also so far tsukasa is 2/2 on nearly(?) dying while staring up at the stars. I cant wait for this weekends chapter to slightly advance the plot and hopefully reveal hyoga is properly dead.
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Mar 18, 2021 20:12
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Speaking of the anime, the Stone Wars opening song has really grown on me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wlhlQpidc
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Mar 18, 2021 20:20
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SKULL.GIF posted:Something's really bugging me about this chapter, there's a trick laying in here somewhere, so I did a third read-through. A couple extra details I picked up on: maybe worth that the woman whose name i forgot, had the death spasm over the spider and suika saved, had a whole beat panel before going roger on stanley's "kill everyone in the fort" order so maybe some of these kill shots arent as kill..shot. Also while going back and trying to track ukiyo (after they pick up the transmission he's basically not seen in the present, just flashback, until he spots the prisoners outside the fort), as they formulate their plan and are about to send suika & francois out they go out of their way to mention they wish they could tell the homebase about what they figured with the diamonds but cant because it'd give away their position. Well, at this point: -the fort's location was already blown so the science team could get their location -they sent people off to cut their transmission gear -they had time to realize they were still coming and try to make preparations (ukyo's out scouting, try & send luna & geology girl off) and they keep bringing up how every second matters because it lets them get a step ahead Regardless of the exact way the situation at the fort plays out I wonder if they just said gently caress it and made a quick transmission (maybe bluntly, maybe in shorthand code, whatever) to home base. I can forsee a scenario where Stanley's group gets connection to home base back up and running only for most of the base to be medusa'd; that'd probably lead to some power shift?
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Renzuko posted:So today's episode of the anime got to "humanity's strongest tag team" as the anime chose to call it, tsukasa and senku vs hyoga and uh...I forgot how much of a dick he was. I kinda hope he is too far gone to come back. I mean Tsukasa was basically murdering random people for a while. He's not exactly a nice guy.
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Mar 19, 2021 00:37
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After the first season I started buying the manga in print. After I finished Vol 15 and the prequel volume I was kind of annoyed that viz takes so long to get the series out in English. Yesterday I found out that the chapters are available on their website/app and they come out around the same time as the Japanese version. I just binged 56 chapters to catch up and this series is great and now I have become a weekly reader.
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Mar 19, 2021 13:35
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Yeah the $2/month on Viz is great value.
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Mar 19, 2021 15:03
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Sub Harrison posted:Yeah the $2/month on Viz is great value. yup...i got one piece, dr. stone. chainsaw man (when it was active) and a series called mashle all for under 4.00 a month.
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Mar 19, 2021 16:11
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1008940 I don’t really understand where the series goes from here to be honest...
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Mar 21, 2021 18:42
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It seems like Dr. Stone is on break next week, app is saying next chapter is coming in 14 days and at the worst spot too 
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Mar 21, 2021 18:44
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Inagaki you crazy bastard. I think I suspect what you're up to and that's such a fantastic twist.
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Mar 21, 2021 19:02
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Oh i I get it, That's actually not a bad trick.
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Mar 21, 2021 19:12
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SKULL.GIF posted:Inagaki you crazy bastard. I think I suspect what you're up to and that's such a fantastic twist. What do you think he's doing? Because I've got no idea where this could be going. EDIT: Are they going to petrify Stanley all the way from America? I don't see how a single medusa would have the power to do that, unless the power consumed is based on number of people petrified and not distance. Also it leaves the people in America petrified until Senku and co return there. And it might even reach Japan. RatHat fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 21, 2021 |
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Mar 21, 2021 19:22
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I'm at work and my phone battery is about to die, when I get home I'll type up what I think is about to happen in two weeks. There's a lot of clues in this chapter. Also anyone who's read Eyeshield 21 (Inagaki's previous work) can probably guess what the trick might be.
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Mar 21, 2021 19:28
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Well I was partially right about relaying a message to the home team.
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Mar 21, 2021 20:06
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They’re going to petrify them via dialup modem.
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UNMARKED SPOILERS/SPECULATION AHEAD, READ THIS FANTASTIC CHAPTER FIRST: ---- What we know for fact, from this chapter: 1. They have a working Medusa (in America) 2. They're openly communicating by radio now 3. Senku has given the American team the same "suicidal attack" order, same as the Brasilian team that's like almost all dead now given the background noise of machine gunning while Kaseki is weeping 4. There's a lingering shot of the radio antenna on Page 17. This is important. The radio antenna is important. Why? It's not just important in that it's how the two teams are communicating. We already know that! We've seen it! Why is the radio antenna important? Leading me to notice this particular line from the start of this chapter: "The Medusa is only Why-Man's to command." What we know for a fact, from previous chapters: 5. They're bouncing radio signals off the atmosphere to be able to connect Brasil and America 6. Why-Man, from the moon, is listening to radio communication (it's how they found out about him the first time, during the Japan/Pacific Ship communication with WHYWHYWHYetc) 7. Why-Man's first reaction was to utter "One million meters, one second." but the Medusa they had was out of juice. 8. Medusa petrification doesn't seem to be harmful. Why-Man might be more interested in preserving the people on the planet instead of harming them. -- So what I'm guessing -- Senku is deliberately giving people suicidal orders over radio, knowing that Why-Man is listening, and daring him to intervene by petrifying everyone again rather than having his subjects/experiments/prisoners/whoever end up dead. Problems with this theory: 1. Brody put the Medusa into a large metal box on page 14. Given the size of that box I'd assume it's soundproof. 2. Why wouldn't they just have the American team activate the Medusa they were holding? Senku doesn't know it's confiscated.
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For 1 like you said Senku doesn't know it got confiscated and for 2 not everyone is present in the final lineup. So what I'm thinking is the order for a suicide attack is actually a diversion and hiding the true intent. So the fighters at the end of the chapter aren't there to do any damage but to give cover to the ones who stayed behind to activate Medusa or in this case break into the vault and then activate it.
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Mar 21, 2021 22:41
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I think the more likely plan is that Senku's message told everyone in the American team to fire the medusa by any means necessary, and has done/will do the math of exactly what size to say, based on their relative positions, and is preparing to have everyone still alive run as fast in the opposite direction as they can. It will be very  for Senku to make a final stand in front of the firing squad of Stanley and the others, they ask for his last words, and he tells them to look behind them, only to see the massive petrification wave hit them and stop inches from Senku's nose.
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Mar 21, 2021 23:08
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I don't think they'll get the Whyman to do their dirty work. More likely they'll go for a hail mary and do it themselves.
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Mar 22, 2021 09:20
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The last line is the key to all of this making sense.
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Mar 22, 2021 12:00
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The anime is continuing on for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIuwUh7PAkY Was kinda worried if it would or not tbh.
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Mar 25, 2021 19:44
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Am I supposed to know who the statue with a raised hand is at the end?
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Mar 25, 2021 22:59
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Kung Food posted:Am I supposed to know who the statue with a raised hand is at the end? If you only watch the anime: no If you read the manga: It's Ryusei
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Mar 25, 2021 23:05
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I hope this show gets like 30 seasons. If for no other reason than the next few arcs are pretty long.
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Mar 26, 2021 03:26
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Yeah, no more Promised Neverland type speed runs, thanks.
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Ultraklystron posted:Yeah, no more Promised Neverland type speed runs, thanks. Promised Neverland probably got hosed because the manga ended and there was no longer something to sell, that’s not the case for Dr. Stone.
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