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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Does Bosch get better as it goes on? I watched one season awhile ago and it was like, okay, but pretty formulaic. Maybe I'm just jaded now but yet another brooding detective who the bosses have it out for is like, not working for me by itself. I enjoyed seeing jamie hector and lance reddick but I dunno, I didn't quite get the pull of the show. Man, I mentally checked out the moment the first season villain revealed he'd built a series of catacombs under his house, because he loved/hated France so much. It's well paced and has decent, thoughtful dialogue, but that was some dumb poo poo.
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Stop talking about The Sopranos and start talking about Homicide: Life on the Streets.
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The Sopranos in the sheets, Homicide: Life on the Streets
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Paz0ajIxzI The Corner's where it's at. (Yes, the whole thing's on Youtube)
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Bosch does not get better, but it's a perfectally acceptable Cop Drama. It gets "better" but it's never "great". But if you are down for a cop show Justified is really good.
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algebra testes posted:Bosch does not get better, but it's a perfectally acceptable Cop Drama. It gets "better" but it's never "great". It kind of fell apart in the last couple of seasons, but man the first four were so much fun. Season 2 with Margo Martindale as the villain was probably the high point, though Boyd Crowder's constant presence was always a delight.
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Jerusalem posted:It kind of fell apart in the last couple of seasons, but man the first four were so much fun. Season 2 with Margo Martindale as the villain was probably the high point, though Boyd Crowder's constant presence was always a delight. Yeah, the last two seasons did that same thing Veronica Mars / iZombie did, where they just overplotted the poo poo out of the story. (I only mention those other shows because it's a rare problem to have, but it's pretty notable when it happens). I think the final season of Justified has, what, about six or seven different characters that find themselves occupying the big villain role? It's a loving mess.
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Vichan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Paz0ajIxzI I could do The Wire, which being fiction at least let me look at it with clinical/critical goggles, but I couldn't get past even the first ep of The Corner. It's excruciating to watch. This is a compliment of the highest order despite how it sounds. Jerusalem posted:It kind of fell apart in the last couple of seasons, but man the first four were so much fun. Season 2 with Margo Martindale as the villain was probably the high point, though Boyd Crowder's constant presence was always a delight. It's sort of the anti-Wire, in a fashion -- it doesn't glorify police violence, but it sure does make it entertaining in the perfectly pulpy way that only Elmore Leonard could do. I absolutely agree that it's worth watching, though. Season two is incredible. Three and four are great. Then Elmore Leonard died and the show seemed to lose its mojo, even though there were some individually good episodes and smaller arcs (and the last episode mostly nailed the landing).
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I couldn't really get into justified either; is season 2 where it really starts picking up? Season 1 felt a little episodic and it didn't grab me.
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Season 1 starts out pretty rough but starts to hit its stride in the last stretch of episodes, and then season 2 is absolutely fantastic. Season 3 is easily the worst season because it doesn’t have “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive” during the finale
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Simon's new project is a return to Baltimore and reunion with George Pelecanos. It will tell the true story of a corrupt unit in the aftermath of the Freddie Grey protests. https://www.nme.com/news/tv/the-wire-creator-returning-to-baltimore-for-new-hbo-series-we-own-this-city-2895368 I remember reading about them when the story broke. They make Herc and Carver look like Officer Friendly.
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MrBling posted:On the other hand, in season 4 you get to see Reg E. Cathey being just incredibly great as Carcetti's campaign adviser. I'm halfway through the first episode and Carcetti is three times the rotten oval office he was in season 3, but Reg is fantastic.
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Really everything you need to fundamentally understand Carcetti is contained in that Season 3 scene where he cheats on his wife while staring at himself in the mirror the whole time.
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deoju posted:Simon's new project is a return to Baltimore and reunion with George Pelecanos. It will tell the true story of a corrupt unit in the aftermath of the Freddie Grey protests. gently caress yes, looking forward to be blown away by an amazing show and also incredibly loving angry 
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christmas boots posted:Really everything you need to fundamentally understand Carcetti is contained in that Season 3 scene where he cheats on his wife while staring at himself in the mirror the whole time. It ruled when O'Malley briefly ran for president and the writers had to say that wasn't based on a real incident, they just kinda felt like he was that kinda guy
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christmas boots posted:Really everything you need to fundamentally understand Carcetti is contained in that Season 3 scene where he cheats on his wife while staring at himself in the mirror the whole time. Through episode 2, he seems like a helicopter parent pushing their kid into doing something they don't want to do so they can live vicariously AND the kid wrapped up into one person. He wants The Prestige of being mayor but can't be bothered to put in the effort to win. E- didn't he cheat on his wife with Teri D'Agostino? This is my first watch through, but it's been a couple years since I saw that episode. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:E- didn't he cheat on his wife with Teri D'Agostino? This is my first watch through, but it's been a couple years since I saw that episode. Yeah. I remember that scene differently. Wasn't he disinterested when loving her only to immediately perk up afterwards because he's watching himself on TV?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Through episode 2, he seems like a helicopter parent pushing their kid into doing something they don't want to do so they can live vicariously AND the kid wrapped up into one person. He wants The Prestige of being mayor but can't be bothered to put in the effort to win. The scene I’m thinking of is long before D’Agostino ever shows up. It’s back before he’s even running for mayor
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christmas boots posted:The scene I’m thinking of is long before D’Agostino ever shows up. It’s back before he’s even running for mayor This is the one I was thinking of as well. I know the woman was a brunette.
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I was thinking about this earlier today, but are the dock workers in season 2 the only group the show's seasons focus on that don't carry over to subsequent seasons? In S1 you have the Barksdale crew who are a part of the show until the end and the cops of course, in S3 you have Carcetti and all of those folks who are still very involved in S5 and in S4 you have the kids who are a big part of S5, yet we never see the stevedores after S2 aside from one brief (weird) scene where Nick and I think a couple of others disrupting a ribbon cutting event or whatever, and Spiros shows up briefly to deal with Marlo, but no Ziggy, Horseface or any of the other bigger characters. I guess Beadie is the one real exception there from S2. Just thought it was weird to just axe them from the show like that when all the other ones stay on.
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We see Johnny 50 in a homeless camp in s5  Also I don’t think carcetti ever actually does gently caress teresa. She kisses him after they win but he manages to turn her down. Unless there’s another sex scene I’m forgetting Ainsley McTree fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:We see Johnny 50 in a homeless camp in s5
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Dangerous Minds 2 starring Roland Pryzbylewski is giving me anxiety.
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Ainsley McTree posted:We see Johnny 50 in a homeless camp in s5 And Nick yells at Andy (?) the developer guy at an unveiling. But yeah, nothing much.
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You also see the Frank Sobotka fliers for Union Treasurer-Secretary still up in places, a sad reminder of the Union showing a last gasp of solidarity in the face of the FBI's threats which ultimately results in the Union being taken over and outside managers installed to run it, which means that that one thing that Frank was trying to keep alive via all his compromises ends up being lost as well.
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Just finished my 4th re-watch and I've got to say season 5 didn't feel quite as bad as it has previously. I think Hampsterdam was a way more unrealistic storyline than the Red Ribbon serial killer.
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th3t00t posted:Just finished my 4th re-watch and I've got to say season 5 didn't feel quite as bad as it has previously. I think Hampsterdam was a way more unrealistic storyline than the Red Ribbon serial killer. I think McNulty's call to the reporter is where that plotline becomes too farfetched. Adding bitemarks and ribbons to corpses feels like he's just inventing evidence to connect the bodies, but him making that call crosses the line into actually impersonating a serial killer. Plus the voice he uses is so goofy and sounds like what a dim person thinks a serial killer sounds like.
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th3t00t posted:Just finished my 4th re-watch and I've got to say season 5 didn't feel quite as bad as it has previously. I think Hampsterdam was a way more unrealistic storyline than the Red Ribbon serial killer. Unrealistic, you say? 
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Lol well, it was unrealistic 20 years ago.
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That last line about partnering with health services is really the key part. Like we see in Season 3 when Bunny shows the Deacon around, all he did originally was sweep all the drugs under the carpet and ignore them, and it was the Deacon who pointed out,"Well now you've got them all together maybe do something to help them too?  "
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I liked The Corner quite a bit, as bleak as it was, and the craziest thing to me about watching it after The Wire is seeing how much they switch up the actors in their various roles. Daniels as a crackhead and Freamon as a junkie is just so jarring to me and makes me really appreciate the actors' range. loving Landsman is the scrap yard foreman. I know I'm forgetting some people too. Here's a full list of all the actors that were in both https://thewire.fandom.com/wiki/The_Corner#:~:text=Dope%20fiends,Day%22)%20in%20The%20Wire. Barry Foster posted:Unrealistic, you say? Also, if I remember right, the real life inspiration for Omar that they based his character on actually jumped from a higher balcony but they toned it down and lowered it to make it more believable.
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Barry Foster posted:Unrealistic, you say? The show made it clear treating drugs as a public health crisis rather than criminally was the right approach. But a rogue police commander adopting this strategy on his own in 2006 and keeping it secret for months is a far cry from the DA announcing it as public policy during a pandemic in 2020. On the other hand the serial killer conspiracy blew up once the number of people in the know grew to 5-6.
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th3t00t posted:I meant unrealistic in how long it took for it to be discovered and made public. 100’s of cops were involved, 1000’s of Baltimore residents partook. There’s no way something involving that many people stays quiet, even with Bunny’s cover story of a pending sting operation. Yeah that's the part of that struck me as unrealistic too. I guess the season does technically address the question of "how long can a rogue police commander get away with that kind of thing", and him having to work to keep it quiet does come up a few times throughout the show, so it's not like the writers were unaware of it but still; you'd think that like, one of the addicts would order a pizza or something and the driver would be like "what the gently caress is all this" and go tell someone, I don't know how you set up something that big without someone stumbling across it and making it go viral. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the proliferation of camera phones and livestreams and that kind of thing would have been easier in 2004 I've also never been to west side baltimore, maybe there's enough space that you could set up an open air legal drug zone and no bystander would ever stumble across it
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Has the Suez boat thingy made anyone else realize that they know nothing about boats outside of what they saw on the wire?
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Friendly reminder that Piers Morgan is a huge sack of poo poo. https://www.indiewire.com/2021/04/piers-morgan-david-simon-feud-wire-twitter-1234628342/ quote:Piers Morgan Criticized ‘The Wire’ and Got Eviscerated by Creator David Simon: ‘You Empty Parasite’
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This isn't the first time that Morgan's had a pop at Simon, and it ended the same way though Piers resorting to "I have more twitter followers than you" so soon showed that he basically had nothing left after the initial exchanges. Naturally, Simon is picking off the stragglers still coming to Morgan's defence because they just keep coming and don't learn the lesson - though the blue tick whose name currently escapes me who said that The Wire's phone-hacking storyline must have hit Morgan close to home and earned a block from Piers was *chef's kiss*
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People dunking on Piers Morgan will never cease to entertain me. 
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Groundskeeper Silly posted:I think McNulty's call to the reporter is where that plotline becomes too farfetched. Adding bitemarks and ribbons to corpses feels like he's just inventing evidence to connect the bodies, but him making that call crosses the line into actually impersonating a serial killer. worth it for this gem of a scene.
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