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John Wick of Dogs posted:1950s Damar was secretly stealing all of Sisko's ideas, "punching them up", and writing screenplays he sent to Hollywood. Lmao checks out
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HD DAD posted:I mean, what do you think started the Temporal Cold War?
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Tunicate posted:Yeah Star Wars was massively improved in the final edit. It's amazing how many obvious corrections it needed. Blistex posted:Also helps that George was still at a point where he was willing to take advice and wasn't surrounded by "yes men". Yep certainly helps that one of the editors was his wife at the time. Marcia Lucas was often called his "secret weapon." For those interested we had a pretty good discussion going about Lucas and Star Wars history in the "Skywalking" biography thread at the Sci-Fi Wifi section: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3930703
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Also re: "why do i forget the plot of movies like star trek beyond" -- it's literally just a feature of the direction and framing. Lindsey Ellis goes over this for Bay's Transformers movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-6M7IbNSI I would think in this case it's the director being the same guy who did some of the Fast and Furious movies
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John Wick of Dogs posted:1950s Damar was secretly stealing all of Sisko's ideas, "punching them up", and writing screenplays he sent to Hollywood. 
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Yep certainly helps that one of the editors was his wife at the time. Marcia Lucas was often called his "secret weapon." My boss had dinner with Marcia Lucas a few months ago and says she is amazing and very nice. I started geeking out when he told me and blasted him with Star Wars questions, going off on a "omg she saved star wars!" rant and my boss just said "oh ya, I thought she was into movies but I wasn't sure, did you know my son made a movie? *queues up home video*" smh
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alexandriao posted:Also re: "why do i forget the plot of movies like star trek beyond" -- it's literally just a feature of the direction and framing. Lindsey Ellis goes over this for Bay's Transformers movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-6M7IbNSI Beyond may have a had a bad plot but it's by miles the best new Trek movie. Also Pegg wrote the screenplay not Lin (who is a very versatile director.) It's basically a tv episode with bad structure, but great dialogue and setpieces.
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Burning_Monk posted:My boss had dinner with Marcia Lucas a few months ago and says she is amazing and very nice. I started geeking out when he told me and blasted him with Star Wars questions, going off on a "omg she saved star wars!" rant and my boss just said "oh ya, I thought she was into movies but I wasn't sure, did you know my son made a movie? *queues up home video*" smh That's pretty wild, she's not a high-profile person at all from what I gather. Fun fact: Episode III is an allegory for the Lucas's divorce. 
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alexandriao posted:Also re: "why do i forget the plot of movies like star trek beyond" -- it's literally just a feature of the direction and framing. Lindsey Ellis goes over this for Bay's Transformers movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-6M7IbNSI 
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alexandriao posted:Also re: "why do i forget the plot of movies like star trek beyond" -- it's literally just a feature of the direction and framing. Lindsey Ellis goes over this for Bay's Transformers movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE-6M7IbNSI I appreciate you posting this. When I said it had left my brain for some reason, it was rhetorical, because all three of the JJ Trek movies are like that. Pretty much just action schlock assaulting you for the entire runtime. Beyond was better paced than the other two, the second in particular was just horribly paced. Into Darkness was also an awful script in general.
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mango sentinel posted:Beyond may have a had a bad plot but it's by miles the best new Trek movie. Also Pegg wrote the screenplay not Lin (who is a very versatile director.) That's cool! As the video shows, the script literally does not matter if most of your attention-related energy is distracted by where you need to put your eyes next. infernal machines posted:I appreciate you posting this. Yeah, although for what it's worth I've seen some of those movies around five times (out of laziness, remote too far away and it's vaguely watchable trash), and I quite literally cannot remember anything other than vague snippets here and there.
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i fuckin love andorians. they stole the show on both enterprise and disco
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Oh poo poo does Season 3 of disco have a lot of andorrians?
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There are some but they are mostly background people outside of one character
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FlamingLiberal posted:There are some but they are mostly background people outside of one character Who is also wasted as a character.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Who is also wasted as a character.
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s3 of enterprise sure is a thing. if it had ended there it would absolutely deserve the fat riker holodeck gently caress you ending.
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Did Morn ever really get wasted?
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alexandriao posted:That's cool! As the video shows, the script literally does not matter if most of your attention-related energy is distracted by where you need to put your eyes next. Beyond relies primarily on spectacle but still has actual good dialogue and stone humanizing character work. Except for Uhura. Uhura gets shamelessly damseled in that movie.
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Was there any in-universe explanation why after TOS, starfleet adopted the Enterprise emblem for their whole organization? Obviously it’s just for tv show reasons but surely some nerd writing a lovely novel would’ve made something up?
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Gutcruncher posted:Was there any in-universe explanation why after TOS, starfleet adopted the Enterprise emblem for their whole organization? Obviously it’s just for tv show reasons but surely some nerd writing a lovely novel would’ve made something up? Probably right after some captain picked goatse for his ship's emblem
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Lord of Pie posted:Probably right after some captain picked goatse for his ship's emblem  
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Gutcruncher posted:Was there any in-universe explanation why after TOS, starfleet adopted the Enterprise emblem for their whole organization? Obviously it’s just for tv show reasons but surely some nerd writing a lovely novel would’ve made something up? there was a startrek.com article last year that argued the delta shape was the fleetwide logo during TOS, it was intended, and it works if you ignore one episode that errored after the “use the delta for other crews” mandate went down - omega glory I think
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Gutcruncher posted:Was there any in-universe explanation why after TOS, starfleet adopted the Enterprise emblem for their whole organization? Obviously it’s just for tv show reasons but surely some nerd writing a lovely novel would’ve made something up? Personally, I've always liked the idea that the starship emblems weren't completely unique; there was a set of like ten of them that each captain could choose from. The Constellation picked the "pretzel" and the Exeter selected the "door-hinge", and the Antares went with the "butt" for some reason. But the arrowhead was always the most popular one by far, so Starfleet finally just got rid of the others and made it universal. I have absolutely no evidence to back this theory up. I just think it neatly explains why we see the arrowhead on other ships in the TOS/Disco era (but not on all of them), and it also removes the need for the arrowhead going fleet-wide to be about the Enterprise specifically.
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The Enterprise was the only constitution class starship to survive her 5 year mission, so they made it the starfleet logo. -Mr. Scott's guide to the engineering of the Enterprise.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There are a lot of good character moments but I wish the movie itself was better. I think Beyond would have been a lot better if Pegg and Jung had been given any time to actually write the drat thing, instead of being tapped at the last minute to write a story and script after Orci and his bobos completely poo poo the bed. That being said, I still really like and appreciate a lot of what Beyond bid. Going back to the "Kirk still feels like he lives in his dad's shadow" well yet again, though ... Jesus Christ. Enough, already.
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Kelvinverse star trek 4: kirk convinces spock there’s a mew under the truck by the ss anne in vermillion city
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How much beer could the JJ enterprise produce per hour? They had a kick rear end brewing setup.
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Timby posted:I think Beyond would have been a lot better if Pegg and Jung had been given any time to actually write the drat thing, instead of being tapped at the last minute to write a story and script after Orci and his bobos completely poo poo the bed.
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Gutcruncher posted:Was there any in-universe explanation why after TOS, starfleet adopted the Enterprise emblem for their whole organization? Obviously it’s just for tv show reasons but surely some nerd writing a lovely novel would’ve made something up? The universal translator uses a snapchat filter to make alien mouths move with the sounds. By the time of TNG, they added another filter to make all the badges appear to your personal preference.
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Crusader posted:there was a startrek.com article last year that argued the delta shape was the fleetwide logo during TOS, it was intended, and it works if you ignore one episode that errored after the “use the delta for other crews” mandate went down - omega glory I think The Enterprise was the defacto face of Starfleet on its five-year mission exploring through deep space, so everyone that kept up contact with the Federation afterwards assumed the Delta shield was the Starfleet emblem and not just Enterprise's mission patch  .
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The Enterprise was the defacto face of Starfleet on its five-year mission exploring through deep space, so everyone that kept up contact with the Federation afterwards assumed the Delta shield was the Starfleet emblem and not just Enterprise's mission patch USS Steve rolls up to help Enterprise with some evacuation of a planet or whatever and the inhabitants treat the crew like poo poo because "well, Starfleet brought Enterprise, and you guys have different emblems - are you like the Reservists? Can we just get more REAL Starfleet?"
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