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.Z. posted:Yeah, in fact they had already started moving out of the dorm when the whole thing took off. The...dorm? Jesus christ being a member of an idol group that isn't making it sounds depressing as hell.
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That’s just one of those Kpop terms. It basically means company provided apartment but of course they vary in quality of life. You’re not wrong about the end bit though. A lot of groups go nowhere and the members end up in their mid to late twenties with no real path forward career wise among other social issues. I’ve spent the past few weeks getting really into Loona so I might do an effort post going through their massive discography for recommendations and such if anyone is interested. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Sure. I would like to see why I should Stan Loona
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  So Loona is first off different than any other group except maybe NCT. Both in concept and musically. They have nearly 100 songs in just a few years. They have 35 music videos total including 29 solo and sub unit music videos. They filmed these all over the world to fit the concept and lore stuff which I won't go into much but in short everything plays into their story from the music to the visuals but it's mostly background stuff you can completely ignore and still enjoy the group 100%. Their cinematography is really something else too, especially their full group mvs. The music varies from big band jazz pop to future bass r&b and everything in between, but the key thing going on musically is that they play with expectations a lot and really change things up in clever ways with the song writing that adds a layer to everything and differentiates their sound from others, no matter what genre they're doing. Harmonically, they play with interesting chords and give almost every song a dreamy like or haunting sound in at least one section. It's really smart stuff underneath pretty approachable pop which is what hooked me. They were also a few years ahead of a lot of musical trends in the industry. It's also worth noting that their latest two EPs were produced by Lee Soo-man, the first time he's worked with a non SM artist. Solo tracks/members: These are all really worth listening to if only to get a taste of how vast their sound is and they're all solid tracks, but I'll bold the ones that are my favorites. It's also good to watch them all to see just how talented every member is all around. They don't have official roles other than Haseul being the leader, even though some might stick out as better dancers or vocalists, they're all around a very holistic approach to a big group. Their choreo is also entirely unique, mixing intricate formations and movements with almost a marching band precision, especially with their full group songs.  Heejin - Vivid funky sax pop with that dreamy sound I mentioned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FCYE87P5L0  Hyunjin - Around You somber downtempo song that gives me IU vibes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mybsDDymrsc  Haseul - Let Me In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a4BWpBJppI haunting ballad with an orchestral score - also shot in Iceland and it's just beautiful. Haseul is also a classically trained opera singer, and it's worth checking out some of her vocal compliations  Yeojin - Kiss Later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thpTOAS1Vgg Jazz pop that sounds right out of Mario Odyssey or Katamari Damacy. Yeojin was just 14 when this came out and it's appropriately adorable  Vivi - Everyday I Love You (ft Haseul) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNcBZM5SvbY Big 90s indie pop sound and style  Kim Lip - Eclipse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJEoSa3Ie0 90s R&B that sounds so thick and good and the start of a more mature and sexy sound for the next few girls. Yes, it's shot in that same venue as every other video lol  Jinsoul - Singing in the Rain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWeyOyY_puQ future bass and jungle beat. this is my favorite solo song. Jinsoul also turned out to be a powerhouse vocal and I love her voice.  (there's a lot of not so subtle religious allegory in Loona stuff lol) Choerry - Love Cherry Motion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbeuXW8Nko This is probably the best solo song to exemplify Loona's sound. Straight bubblegum pop until it's 100% NOT, but it works so well for the song. Seriously a great beat switch. It's like YG's style done with more logic behind it musically.  Yves - New https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDe-yTxda0 2000s club sound with a great driving beat. Reminds me of the Drive soundtrack.  Chuu - Heart Attack. By far the most popular solo and one of their most popular songs. Hard rhythm and heavy synth under Chuu singing the hell out of it. Chuu is the other surprise power vocal and has just an insane amount of charisma and energy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVfMFS3mgc  Gowon - One&Only Synthpop but with a cool chromatic vibe that gives it that Loona sound  Olivia Hye ft Jinsoul- Egoist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkY8HvgvBJ8 Dream pop sound that is the best preview of what Loona as a whole would be leaning towards Subunits I'll just list my favorite song from each but again, all worth listening to  1/3 - Love&Live pure retro bubblegum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4b9Z9lSwc  Odd Eye Circle - Sweet Crazy Love Another track that is a good mix of the Loona sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7FkoNKBzI  YYXY ft Grimes - love4eva 8 bit vibes but with great vocal performances that really make it work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIWpr3tHzII Group MVs Now we're really in it. Watch all of these if only to appreciate the production value of everything.  favOriTe This combines all of the synth and r&b sounds into what I consider the signature Loona sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJPFfnzZ7w  Hi High Technically favorite came out a few days before, but this is really their group debut. The hyper synth bubblegum sound here is really catchy but this song is about the vocals. Chuu's moment in the bridge is definitely iconic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=846cjX0ZTrk  Butterfly This was their breakout song from what I can tell. Absolutely beautiful video/choreo/song and it would be my favorite if not for the next one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEOCbFJjRw0  So What My favorite Loona track because it's so aggressive and confident. They kill the live stages of it too, the dance is just so satisfying. Jinsoul really gets to flex her vocals in this one despite most of the song being gang vocals and more rhythmically based like Itzy songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEo5bmUKFvI  Why Not definitely a part 2 to So What, musically and visually. The next video teaser seems to imply a trilogy which I'm 100% down for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6li05zh3Kg  Star Their big western breakout hit. It's still in the US top 40 for over a month straight, and they're only the second girlgroup to chart there (and first to do it with without a western artist feature - BP w/ Selena Gomez). I heard this song playing in Walmart of all places. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW-AIXAnLcE So yeah, they've quickly become one of my favorite GGs because of their talent and originality. If you only want to check out a few songs I'd say go with Heart Attack, Butterfly, and So What. That will give you a good taste of what they have to offer.`
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quote:It's also worth noting that their latest two EPs were produced by Lee Soo-man, the first time he's worked with a non SM artist. The access you can get when your agency is two steps away from an arms company  (Blockberry creative is a subsidiary of Polaris Ent, which is a subsidiary of Ilkwang group who mainly deal in arms for those who don't know)Also Loona were once supposed to release a ballad album but the producer had a tantrum and deleted it all, which is still a shame imo. I'm sure it's more complicated than that but that's my memory of it. Itzy released their Midzy fan song. Not really notable because it's thematically the same as every other fan song, but I was impressed that they got 50 different language subtitles done for it. Hopefully JYP paid for them and didn't contact random fans to do them for free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho_SmopuDlQ
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That reminds me of this good NYT article about fan translation accounts. I’d never really considered the stress they have to deal with. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/arts/music/bts-kpop-translators.html
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Fan translation accounts do so much work, I follow the twice translator misayeon on twitter and last year it seemed like she translated significantly more stuff than what I had to translate as part of my translation degree. Because she's also primarily a Mina fan with 400,000 followers, she also got bombarded with comments from some other twice stans saying she should be focusing on all members and not favouring Mina which was the most insanely stupid criticism to see and did make me wonder why anybody would bother doing it once that happens.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQMg8-Ku3JI I hate it.
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lmao made it 4 seconds before the uncanny valley kicked in edit: the song is just awful too. the whole thing feels like it should be a weird art piece critiquing kpop. Thom and the Heads fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Mar 22, 2021 |
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It looks like their facial features don’t always line up correctly with their head movements which is unsettling as hell  Suddenly it feels like a good idea that aespa’s weird avatars are just cgi bratz dolls and not meant to look realistic. E. Bottom Liner, I really enjoyed that write-up on Loona!
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Apparently they're planning a fan meet and this is just a sub-unit as well, and some people in the comments seem to be into it? I understand people liking virtual groups or idols or whatever but this one I don't really understand because to me every frame of the video looked horrible and the song is probably one of the worst I've ever heard. I'd be interested to see how they improve the tech over time though
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Scylo posted:Apparently they're planning a fan meet and this is just a sub-unit as well, and some people in the comments seem to be into it? So there are more members? That's a bit unsettling. Thank you for the LOONA writeup.
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It’s really amazing in all the wrong ways!
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I found this article that has some more info I didn't know https://biaswrecker.com/new-girl-group-with-ai-members-to-debut-this-march/ quote:All the members’ faces were chosen through “AI.DOL CHALLENGE”, which pitted hundreds of synthesized idols together in a vote earlier this year. So I guess they are actually very serious about this project.
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MIDWIFE CRISIS posted:Don’t be shy, drop the mixes thanks for the welcome! http://www.kc4ylv.online/jonny-290-UWS-mix-2020-kpop-only.mp3 from august 7 last year Spoilering the tracklist if you want to go in blind red velvet - really bad boy clc - Me everglow - bon bon chocolat a-jax - insane everglow - adios exid - ddd itzy - wannabe momoland - thumbs up blackpink - boombayah blackpink - kill this love Obviously entry level stuff, this is when i was getting interested and just trawling the big hits to get my bearings. I bricked a couple of mixes but no trainwrecks, and i did get some pretty good transitions in there. will work on a fresh one with stuff that's dropped in the last 6mo that im into! Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Mar 22, 2021 19:24
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This song is more western pop sounding than kpop but I kind of like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAKSKi_KbcQ&t=28s
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She basically self made that whole thing with the help of some friends, from what I read Cube didn’t even record or produce it. It’s a smart move for her though. She’s been building her own brand for a while now and getting big on tik tok and stuff and a western song will only help, just like Rosé. CLC has so much talent that has been mostly wasted by Cube with how lazily they were promoted after Idle blew up.
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Bottom Liner posted:LOONA btw A++ LOONA dump. I've been meaning to get more into them and I'll likely end up using this post first when I dive in! This (and the Brave Girls blow up) also reminds me I've been meaning to do a big effort post about EXID one of these days. Thinking about doing one for Oh My Girl, as well. If anybody is interested lmk! I have a ton of people I want to effort post about in general, but they'll likely be the first ones. Also whew lad that digital group is definitely a thing. But between Vocaloids and Vtubers, it was only a matter of time before someone finally tried it. I think the uncanny valleyness of it all is the worst part. Like, the song is also not good, but at least if the idols were more cartoonish or stylized it would be less lowkey terrifying.
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Mar 23, 2021 20:36
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Doggles posted:
Ayyy was just coming to post this! Sounds like 5 songs, and April 5th. Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgllud6o0U
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Jonny 290 posted:thanks for the welcome! I can’t open this link 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7bnOxV4jAc I think I love this song
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Scylo posted:I think I love this song 
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Scylo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7bnOxV4jAc Oh hell yes.
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Lilac Troll Celebrity and Flu are all bangers My Sea and Epilogue are both great ballads and holy poo poo she kills it 5/5 album for sure
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Whew Lilac is a pure rear end bop, and that video  Excited to listen to the rest of the album later.
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MIDWIFE CRISIS posted:I can’t open this link Jesus and I work for a CDN and everything. Pasted the wrong url. http://www.kc4ylv.online/jonny-290-UWS-mix-2020-kpop-only.mp3 thanks for calling it out! Verified it works now.
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This is easily one of the best 80s tracks so far Jackson Wang - LMLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIMihDOXMpY
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not sure how this is gna turn out, but considering in the trailer alone has Taemin, Yenny, BoA, Yunho, Joon Park and Seungyeon from KARA i'm definitely going to be watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVFPzA0cWGM from the description: appearances from SuperM, H.O.T., BoA, SUPER JUNIOR, KARA, Ha:tfelt (Wonder Girls), Kang Daniel, Sandara Park (2NE1), Red Velvet, EXO, NCT, (G)I-DLE, and PENTAGON Bottom Liner posted:This is easily one of the best 80s tracks so far This is a bop, and the video is very much in that same Hong Kong cinema vibe of Pretty Please, which I really loved. Bless.
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I like that head bop move. It's so simple yet looks so cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86BST8NIpNM
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Speaking of IU, she's promoting on music shows for the first time in like four years The pandemic must be hard for a concert queen like her lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yiF99SzKns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qio1G8GwKA4
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Wheein’s solo release is next month! This and Wendy in the same month is just too much.
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Bottom Liner posted:Wheein’s solo release is next month! This and Wendy in the same month is just too much. Yee yee! If I remember right, Byul mentioned something on her radio show about how it'll be Wheein, another group CB, and then more solo stuff for her, Solar and Hwasa. e: sounds like Wheein will promote on music shows this time, too. seems like it's shaping up to be a dance track I want Wheein to pop the gently caress offfffff esperterra fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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The song is said to be different from easy and goodbye which is interesting. I’m hoping we are given more than one song for this release.
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I’ll say it: even in a group as stacked as MMM she’s the best vocals AND dancer  She’s not as flashy as solars vocals but her control is insane and I think she has one of the best tones in the industry. Dreamcatcher had their acoustic set of their online concert today and it was great. Excited for the full band set tomorrow.
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Bottom Liner posted:Dreamcatcher had their acoustic set of their online concert today and it was great. Excited for the full band set tomorrow. Same! Everything they did for Handong was really sweet, it made me tear up. The arrangements they did for Scream and Black or White were absolutely incredible, I hope they get put on an album or something in the future. I'm still pretty new to K-Pop, Dreamcatcher just grabbed my heart and pulled me in super hard. This was the first time I ever spent money on anything relating to it, but I don't regret it one bit. Day one alone was worth the forty dollars.
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Bottom Liner posted:I’ll say it: even in a group as stacked as MMM she’s the best vocals AND dancer Dolphin Wheein! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0IIlZwq5S0
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Bottom Liner posted:I’ll say it: even in a group as stacked as MMM she’s the best vocals AND dancer this is like the most common MMM opinion tbf lmao
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