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Piell posted:Snydercut is definitely a better movie than Whedon but it's like a 7/10 It's a poor village offering all they can to their god: their beautiful voices. Humans have been doing it for 1,000's of years. "I loving dare you"  Wanker.Or we talking about the WW theme? It's pretty much a meme at this point with idiots going hurrrr [lamentations...] FUNNY.
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People are so used to comic book movies being ashamed of their source material and hiding anything remotely interesting behind irony and anticlimax that sincerity is confusing and scary to them.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:02
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Vintersorg posted:It's a poor village offering all they can to their god: their beautiful voices. Humans have been doing it for 1,000's of years. I am referring to the Wonder Woman theme, and its curious you didn't even bother to try to defend it. (Playing it literally anytime Wonder Woman does anything was a bad idea that is dumb) Piell fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Mar 22, 2021 |
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Mar 22, 2021 15:02
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Mar 22, 2021 15:03
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What's to defend? It's a quick musical sting that plays when Wonder Woman does something. It's overplayed but I doubt people would notice so much without the silly subtitle
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Mar 22, 2021 15:04
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Piell posted:Snydercut is definitely a better movie than Whedon but it's like a 7/10 Haha I certainly won't. This is the sort of movie that I'm glad exists, I enjoyed it, but think there's a much better movie in here with a few cuts and music cue changes. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd cut it down myself.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:10
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https://twitter.com/itssofiah/status/1373824883403059204?s=21
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Mar 22, 2021 15:13
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Mar 22, 2021 15:18
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I guess we're moving on from "black bars on my screen" to "what is this poo poo in my subtitles" chat.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:19
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I guess we're moving on from "black bars on my screen" to "what is this poo poo in my subtitles" chat. If something happens like twenty times and I'm already going "I get it, wailing happens when Wonder Woman does anything, move one" on the third time it is a failed bit
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Mar 22, 2021 15:21
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Play Classical Gas!
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Mar 22, 2021 15:21
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screaming at pachelbel from across the music hall, again with the goddamn scales?!
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Mar 22, 2021 15:22
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I thought the ancient lamentation bit was cool because it emphasized her divine/mystical nature. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Mar 22, 2021 15:26
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Maybe they could have switched it up a bit with a bit more of her kicking rad fight music, but otherwise the subtitle was much more egregious (and funny) than the actual cue
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Mar 22, 2021 15:27
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Piell posted:If something happens like twenty times and I'm already going "I get it, wailing happens when Wonder Woman does anything, move one" on the third time it is a failed bit It's just a musical theme for something - it doesn't detract from anything. You're just nitpicking some bullshit cause it's a meme. Did you cry everytime the Shire cues played throughout LoTR? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGaz_qN0cw
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Mar 22, 2021 15:31
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Piell posted:If something happens like twenty times and I'm already going "I get it, wailing happens when Wonder Woman does anything, move one" on the third time it is a failed bit I mean again it's not really a "bit" it's a musical accent to accompany WW's actions. Literally every character has them, it's just that hers have the humorous subtitle to describe it.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:31
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My favorite subtitle in anything is still in Mass Effect 1, when a villain grunts in frustration. "Argh! Rawr! Argh!"josh04 posted:screaming at pachelbel from across the music hall, again with the goddamn scales?! We have to destroy Pachelbel and end canon forever
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Mar 22, 2021 15:31
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Lietmotifs, what are they?!
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Mar 22, 2021 15:32
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multijoe posted:Lietmotifs, what are they?! Ancient lamentations, obviously
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Mar 22, 2021 15:32
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Vintersorg posted:It's just a musical theme for something - it doesn't detract from anything. You're just nitpicking some bullshit cause it's a meme. I'm not nitpicking it because it's a meme, it's something I noticed during the movie and though it was dumb, it detracted from the movie for me because I was rolling my eyes every time it happened, nobody else had loud wailing happening any time they did anything
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Mar 22, 2021 15:33
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Piell posted:I'm not nitpicking it because it's a meme, it's something I noticed during the movie and though it was dumb, it detracted from the movie for me because I was rolling my eyes every time it happened, nobody else had loud wailing happening any time they did anything No you didn't. I'm calling you out. It didn't distract you.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:35
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Vintersorg posted:No you didn't. I'm calling you out. It didn't distract you. I assure you it did, when Wonder Woman was doing a thing I wasn't thinking "man look at Wonder Woman doing a cool thing", I was thinking "the loving wailing again" Piell fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Mar 22, 2021 |
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Mar 22, 2021 15:37
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There's this really weird thing going on with the Snyder Cut, where if someone mentions something about it they didn't like they are instantly shot down and told they are wrong. I loved the movie, absolutely loved it. At the same time, I can laugh at the Wonder Woman musical cue being overused, or a dramatic sequence of the team walking up some stairs. It's ok for people to love it, but it's ok for people to find fault in it and bring that up. Let people have their opinions and discuss those in a normal manner, rather than jumping on to someone who just has a different take. That long post about why you can't say you found the movie bad is just embarrassing. Why look for a fight about a different of opinion regarding a Justice League movie?
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Mar 22, 2021 15:42
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Pitwar posted:There's this really weird thing going on with the Snyder Cut, where if someone mentions something about it they didn't like they are instantly shot down and told they are wrong. This is not true. It's fine if someone doesn't like it. That's normal. But when you're just repeating twitter hot takes of nitpicks then it's where you're called out.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:48
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Pitwar posted:There's this really weird thing going on with the Snyder Cut, where if someone mentions something about it they didn't like they are instantly shot down and told they are wrong. I dunno I can see "try defending the lamentations I loving dare you" being just a tad confrontational Like if that's "discussing in a normal manner" I feel like the responses have been equally normal
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Mar 22, 2021 15:49
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Vintersorg posted:This is not true. This insistence that nobody could possibly dislike the wailing because people on twitter also didn't like it is idiotic. The wailing drew me out of the action scenes because I found it annoying that it happened literally anything Wonder Woman did something. Again, overall I liked the movie, but it was far from perfect.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:51
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In the music department, I think would like to have seen a Junkie XL/Hans Zimmer collab joint for ZSJL. Not that I think the score is bad, but for me, Zimmer's music just has that warm blanket familiarity to it that I like.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:52
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Piell posted:This insistence that nobody could possibly dislike the wailing because people on twitter also didn't like it is idiotic. The wailing drew me out of the action scenes because I found it annoying that it happened literally anything Wonder Woman did something. Again, overall I liked the movie, but it was far from perfect. Yeah, that became comedic after a while. I'm shocked they didn't use that when she was making tea. Guy A. Person posted:I dunno I can see "try defending the lamentations I loving dare you" being just a tad confrontational Like I said, that post was embarrassing. The poster got way too uptight over a movie. That was far from normal.
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Mar 22, 2021 15:57
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Double post, sorry.
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RBA Starblade posted:My favorite subtitle in anything is still in Mass Effect 1, when a villain grunts in frustration. "Argh! Rawr! Argh!" That was so good. And he's an intelligent super soldier!
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I will say watching the Snyder cut made me think worse of the Whedon version. I only saw the Whedon version once when it first came out and I remembered it as a 5/10 but now that I've seen Snyder's version I would downgrade the original Justice League to like a 2-3/10
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Pitwar posted:There's this really weird thing going on with the Snyder Cut, where if someone mentions something about it they didn't like they are instantly shot down and told they are wrong.
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Guy A. Person posted:I dunno I can see "try defending the lamentations I loving dare you" being just a tad confrontational Also being hyperbolic without being funny. Like, I dare critics to count how many times ancient lamentations actually pop up in the movie, I would be shocked if they needed two hands for it.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:14
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Gorn Myson posted:Having this movie land well feels like a vindication and now its cathartic to throw some poo poo back. But people were acting like this when MoS and BvS came out too.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:15
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Pitwar posted:There's this really weird thing going on with the Snyder Cut, where if someone mentions something about it they didn't like they are instantly shot down and told they are wrong. That isn’t what’s going on here - nobody has said that you're not allowed to dislike a 4:3 aspect ratio, the repeating usage of Wonder Woman's musical cue, excessive slo-mo usage or whatever. When people list reasons why these inclusions work, they're pushing against the notion by posters like Piell that they’re entirely iredeemable, a disgrace to film-making or whatever. Piell posted:Snydercut is definitely a better movie than Whedon but it's like a 7/10 We’re now in the phase of the conversation where it’s those people who do think any of these aspects are defensible and are willing to write about it are deemed Snyder stans who won’t allow ‘different opinions’ and refuse to acknowledge any defect in his films. Try defending the leitmotif usage In In the Mood for Love, I loving dare you
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Mar 22, 2021 16:17
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stev posted:But people were acting like this when MoS and BvS came out too. Yeah no, the reason there is a snyder dome thread is because people who wanted to talk about snyder got quarantined into it, like the forums equivalent of a leper colony.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:19
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Vintersorg posted:No you didn't. I'm calling you out. It didn't distract you. I think it's fair for people to say it distracted them or hindered some of Diana's moments. I find the subtitle meme to be a bit silly but nothing to be angry over. For me, the only musical cue I'd change is the one over the Flash rescue. I probably would have kept it silent except for the slowed down sounds of like Barry's feet tearing up asphalt, metal crunching/grinding, and other sound effects. A minor nitpick though. Snyder loves music cues.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:20
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Yeah, I feel like there's been valid complaints all over the place, although tbf it's hard to track across 3 threads and the CD discord (where we were specifically critiquing the bad "Martha Manhunter" scene just a few minutes ago) I feel like this instance was a complaint that got push back (from just a single poster initially), which lead to justifications of the complaint and then some discussion around it.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:21
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stev posted:But people were acting like this when MoS and BvS came out too. It's a terrible burden being correct!
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I suppose it would be useful to be more polite when correcting people who claim Man Of Steel and Batman V Superman aren't good
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