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It is interesting that Barry tells Bruce that he was right about Clark, but from Barry's POV that means something different than we would believe in BvS. Barry's trying to remind Bruce to have faith that Superman is actually good.. or I dunno maybe it just doesn't make sense.
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Just warning everyone in this thread, the trailer for The Suicide Squad that dropped today makes a lot of the deaths obvious imo. If you want to go into the movie unspoiled, skip the trailer.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:01 |
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I think everybody is gonna live, they'll show up in the last scene with their arm in a sling with no explanation like GI Joe
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:06 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I think everybody is gonna live, they'll show up in the last scene with their arm in a sling with no explanation like GI Joe Neck braces
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:08 |
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Blood Boils posted:Does he even do those? Like other than Rey's parentage, most of his other stuff doesn't feature twist-reveals or even mysteries. He is the man behind Lost. As fast as movies go, there was the whole Khan debacle from Star Trek Into Darkness. Trek 2009 was relatively straight forward for a reboot/prequel/sequel goes.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:22 |
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Spacebump posted:Just warning everyone in this thread, the trailer for The Suicide Squad that dropped today makes a lot of the deaths obvious imo. If you want to go into the movie unspoiled, skip the trailer. I just hope Waller doesn't cap her tech guy for constantly saying how wacky everything is
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:23 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:He is the man behind Lost. Sure but I meant more his movie filmography. Khan's presence isn't a mystery, his "reveal" is only to the characters within the story, we already know everything about him. And even Kirk and crew know he's a bad guy before they talk to him.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:29 |
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I keep thinking that Waller died in Suicide Squad but it's just that I'm remembering the Arrow version of the character who shot herself in the head because Suicide Squad was coming out and DC was really weird about having two versions of the same character in different places for a while.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 18:36 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:I keep thinking that Waller died in Suicide Squad but it's just that I'm remembering the Arrow version of the character who shot herself in the head because Suicide Squad was coming out and DC was really weird about having two versions of the same character in different places for a while. They had a solid version of dead shot in their show and killed him off stupidly
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Blood Boils posted:Sure but I meant more his movie filmography. Khan was absolutely intended to be a ~wild shocking reveal,~ to the point that JJ actually straight up lied to people who asked if cumberbatch was playing khan.
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Detective No. 27 posted:He is the man behind Lost. The first movie had a big surprise twist too when Nimoy showed up. They kept that hidden fairly well, iirc it wasn't widely known leading up to the release of the movie. And yea Into Darkness was definitely meant as a surprise Wrath of Khan remake but it got leaked and the whole thing was ruined(I've grown to really like the movie though).
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 19:03 |
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Into Darkness very nearly had something cool when Kirk and Khan teamed up to take down Admiral Robocop. I get that they couldn't really turn the genocidal tyrant into a good guy (though it didn't stop Discovery), but they could at least have saved his eventual betrayal until a sequel, so it would actually have some buildup.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 19:09 |
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Khan was absolutely intended to be a ~wild shocking reveal,~ to the point that JJ actually straight up lied to people who asked if cumberbatch was playing khan. I'm not talking about some marketing intention that wasn't a factor anyways. Like even if the character wasn't literally named Khan, that would still be who he is - the plot doesn't hinge on his identity as a mystery Robot Style posted:Into Darkness very nearly had something cool when Kirk and Khan teamed up to take down Admiral Robocop. I get that they couldn't really turn the genocidal tyrant into a good guy (though it didn't stop Discovery), but they could at least have saved his eventual betrayal until a sequel, so it would actually have some buildup. I don't know if the team up would have made sense for either character to maintain for very long. Kirk still thinks Khan should face consequences for killing section 9 and high command including his mentor Pike. And Khan doesn't seem like the sort to leave witnesses if he can help it.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 19:24 |
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I mean, if they'd written it that way they'd definitley have to tone down all his earlier actions to make it believable, but "what if Kirk and Khan were friends" is a decent premise to feature in a series that's explicitly an alternate timeline.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 19:45 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:I keep thinking that Waller died in Suicide Squad but it's just that I'm remembering the Arrow version of the character who shot herself in the head because Suicide Squad was coming out and DC was really weird about having two versions of the same character in different places for a while. That reminds of how in Batman Begins there was a line of dialogue mentioning Metropolis not in any major way but because Smallville was still going and they felt people would be confused.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 21:19 |
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Neo Rasa posted:That reminds of how in Batman Begins there was a line of dialogue mentioning Metropolis not in any major way but because Smallville was still going and they felt people would be confused. No there’s not.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:05 |
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gregday posted:No there’s not.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:07 |
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Is this just misremembering Superman Returns again? Because Gotham is mentioned on a news broadcast in that movie.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:16 |
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I think it's just misremembering the Bat-Embargo that existed on the DC Animated Universe shows in which they were really restricted on naming Batman related characters as new Batman related cartoons and Teen Titans had started.
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Robot Style posted:Is this just misremembering Superman Returns again? Because Gotham is mentioned on a news broadcast in that movie. It’s in the movie. I remember it.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls_K1FNCDVA 29 seconds in
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:47 |
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Rewatching Man of Steel, noticed his Dad wears the black suit. So maybe the black suit is also reflective of Superman feeling like he's stepping into his Dad's shoes or somesuch.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 22:52 |
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Yeah, not Batman Begins. The Nolan movies are not set in a world where aliens exist.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:04 |
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Arkage posted:Rewatching Man of Steel, noticed his Dad wears the black suit. So maybe the black suit is also reflective of Superman feeling like he's stepping into his Dad's shoes or somesuch.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:10 |
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Eh I guess it's just to do with sunlight absorption then. And his Dad wore it since the sun was much weaker at Krypton.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:14 |
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Why would supermans clothes charge him more than, you know, his skin? Is his skin fused with the suit? He should have flown up naked
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:38 |
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I mean, agreed, but it's an allusion to how in physics black objects reflect the least light and so absorb the most light.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:41 |
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I really love that bit where Steppenwolf flexes and just dislodges all the arrows from his armor. Super dope.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:41 |
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Khan was absolutely intended to be a ~wild shocking reveal,~ to the point that JJ actually straight up lied to people who asked if cumberbatch was playing khan. People are mixing up different things because of memes. The JJ “mystery box” concept is simply to avoid over-explaining your narrative, so that parts retain a certain mystique. Like, what’s in the Pulp Fiction briefcase? The audience doesn’t actually care what’s in the box because they already know that the answer is probably banal. Rey’s parents, Khan, etc. - these are not mystery boxes, because they’re eventually explained. He’s Khan, she’s Palpatine. Whatever. That’s just some poo poo. And before learning the answer, when people went insane wanting to know who Rey’s daddy is, that’s wasn’t ‘mystery box’ either. That was just rampant hype.
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# ? Mar 26, 2021 23:51 |
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Arkage posted:Eh I guess it's just to do with sunlight absorption then. And his Dad wore it since the sun was much weaker at Krypton. There's another interview where he does talk about it being a krypton thing, you were right on. quote:
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:25 |
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What's interesting is that in some podcast interview he specified that it's after succumbing to the anti life equation that Superman puts the blue suit back on
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:27 |
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Despite not being an Abrams venture, Star Trek: Discovery probably had the most blatant mystery box i've seen with The Burn, where what should have just been the mechanism to play with The End Of The Federation ended up being a large chunk (majority?) of the season. (A dude crashed onto rocks while irradiated, and obtained the power to turn off rocks)
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:52 |
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Discovery feels like it's trying real hard to crib from Doctor Who's mystery boxes, which are also terrible.
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:56 |
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Just a reminder! ZSJL: Justice is Gray will be streaming tonight in the CineD Discord at 9PM Central. Please remember to mute your mic if you plan to join! Also, for those who have access to HBO Max, I will be hosting a SCENER watch party if you'd rather sync your own stream. The scener room code will be posted in the #snack-snyders-slyders channel a few minutes before the stream goes live.
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:57 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Rian didn't get replaced, though the guy directing the third one, Colin Trevorrow, had worked with Rian to come up with the basic story of the third onee that would hook up with his, and he got replaced after he put out one weird bad movie, which seems crazy to me. I can't think of a Trevorrow film I actually like, but even Rob Reiner put out North. I thought every director gets one freebie dumb poo poo passion project. Here's a fan-comic based on the early drafts of the original story: https://awinegarner.squarespace.com/duel-of-the-fates
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 00:58 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:People are mixing up different things because of memes. -- Actual mysteries that are eventually solved or whodunits -- Withholding of information for dramatic effect with no intention to explain the mystery -- Deep themes in genre fiction -- Playing with expectations -- Camera trickery
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 01:00 |
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JJ and Whedon both are not fully to blame. They were given impossible demands and schedules and very specific bullet points they had to hit in the meantime. Whedon I give a lot more blame cause he was really lovely about it and a lot of the stuff in Josstice is his own bullshit. JJ more or less seems to have done what he could with what he was given, and probably even less control, with respect for the people he was working with.
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 01:38 |
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Just finished the second chapter of Justice is Grey by the way and I really dig it. Everything is a lot more otherworldly. The only scene so far I didn't think worked very well was the Wonder Woman fight in London, but everything else about that scene was really cool.
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 01:42 |
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Justice is Grey is a fun thing for the fans because you get to feel like you're watching the secret movie Snyder kept on his laptop but I'm probably never going to watch that version again.
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# ? Mar 27, 2021 01:46 |
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Robot Style posted:Is this just misremembering Superman Returns again? Because Gotham is mentioned on a news broadcast in that movie. Metropolis is mentioned in Batman Forever - "The circus must be halfway to Metropolis by now!"
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