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playing p5r for the first time on hard right now. just finished the first palace and yeah morgana just falls apart if anything beefy so much as looks at him(?) funny. Tbf this is only the first palace and I am bad, so 
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Thanks for the tips, I will see how it shakes out in later palaces. I think part of the issue with Morgana is the cat armor has low defense, all my humans have cleaned armor from the palace and even the better armor you can buy for Morgana right now has much lower defense.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:25
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GCValentine posted:Thanks for the tips, I will see how it shakes out in later palaces. In theory it has much higher evasion to make up for that, but honestly Morgana is kind of made of paper (intentionally so I’d say) so that your healer is something you have to keep alive in fights that early.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:27
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The great thing about Persona 5 (and Persona 4G to an even greater extent) is there is no penalty (so far as I know) for lowering or increasing the difficulty at any time. The only exception is the easiest (story mode) setting, but the game warns you about it so you don’t enable it by accident. Yes I used easy/merciless to cheese my way through one or two bosses and no I’m not ashamed of it.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:28
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Yeah, Morgana's really fragile. That never really changes. I don't tend to use him much except for "it seems like it would be cool for story reasons to have Morgana in this fight" once the other healer joins.Solaris 2.0 posted:The great thing about Persona 5 (and Persona 4G to an even greater extent) is there is no penalty (so far as I know) for lowering or increasing the difficulty at any time. Correct, there's no penalty for adjusting the difficulty whenever you want to. I turned it up to Merciless because it makes the fifth Palace boss a ton easier, then right back down to Hard for the rest of the game.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:30
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Solaris 2.0 posted:The great thing about Persona 5 (and Persona 4G to an even greater extent) is there is no penalty (so far as I know) for lowering or increasing the difficulty at any time. Every once in a while I think of Palace 5 and shudder at the thought of doing it on hard.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:00
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Harrow posted:Yeah, Morgana's really fragile. That never really changes. I don't tend to use him much except for "it seems like it would be cool for story reasons to have Morgana in this fight" once the other healer joins. To his credit I think Morgana learns Mediarama first. TheLoser posted:Every once in a while I think of Palace 5 and shudder at the thought of doing it on hard. I barely managed to use it with Shiva. Needing to kill the bots at the same time is so dumb. I also died once because loving Ryuji Harisen Recovery'd my Hunger and I got burg'd.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:04
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Acerbatus posted:I also died once because loving Ryuji Harisen Recovery'd my Hunger and I got burg'd. Every. God. drat. Time. Just let me eat the loving burger Ryuji.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:06
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Acerbatus posted:To his credit I think Morgana learns Mediarama first. Yeah, he's definitely the stronger healer. He gets healing spells earlier than Makoto does, he learns Salvation and Samarecarm, and his Persona's inherent trait increases everyone's healing power. If you need a ton of healing, Morgana's your guy.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:07
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Unrelated, the maid cafe scene with the twins is absolutely fantastic.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:08
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Finished Strikers story, now into the post game. But some quick thoughts. • Most enemies die quickly, but they're aggressive as gently caress. They'll shred you if you hesitate. • (Almost) Every enemy has a weakness, including bosses and you'd think that would make the game too easy, but the new system where you have to deplete a gauge before knocking them down is really cool and I hope they integrate that into mainline games • Music is great, as expected. You Are Stronger, Daredevil, Counterstrike, and the final boss theme are standouts for the original stuff, and the remixes kick rear end too. • Story is mostly good, benefits a lot from seemingly not having a ton of rewrites. • Having the whole crew from the start is great, and it lets a lot of characters shine. • I'm actually really impressed with Joker's moveset, his normals are very basic but giving each Persona different charge attacks is outstanding variety. Some get free buffs and it's absurdly good (hello Alice) • Enemy aggression ties in well with the general mechanics. Using your free moves could carry you through the whole game, but everything comes at you so fast that you need the instant, SP costing moves to save your rear end from getting beat. Most bosses are refightable, but I find myself missing the ones that aren't. Kinda want to relive the Joker Mirror Match • Sophie is really cute  
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Mar 26, 2021 00:44
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Harrow posted:Yeah, Morgana's really fragile. That never really changes. I don't tend to use him much except for "it seems like it would be cool for story reasons to have Morgana in this fight" once the other healer joins. There are two end bosses where Morgana is a go-to. The sphinx uses a lot of wind attacks but isn't wind resistant so Morgana good, Ryuji bad. And one of the spaceport waves is only weak to wind so you want both Morgana and Haru in that battle (and Makoto or Ryuji to complete the team). On the other hand for exploring I tend to use Morgana spamming dia and media after fights rather than normal auto-recoveries. I'm not putting him in the battle line but healing sp are useful.
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Mar 26, 2021 04:13
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On the other hand, Morgana deserves to never be in the group after you get Yusuke, so he isn't. He is a SP battery for out of combat healing.
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Mar 26, 2021 04:17
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Theoretically Morgana is your go-to Critical Hit machine for downing once Ann gets her healing set up. But Yusuke does that better and can also eat a punch, so.
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Mar 26, 2021 04:31
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There is some value in using him against treasure demons to try and get a lucky crit.
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Mar 26, 2021 04:37
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I used Morgana the whole way through vanilla P5 and don't regret a thing. Morgana is the best
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Mar 26, 2021 04:45
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Morgana gets the earliest showtime and having him and Ann both out doubles the chance it activates because it does the rng logic rolls twice (one for each active party member).
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Mar 26, 2021 04:48
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Hunt11 posted:There is some value in using him against treasure demons to try and get a lucky crit. Base P5 only. The treasure demons in Royal all have weaknesses. In Royal the first one's the hardest because even Joker doesn't have the right type of attack by L10.
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Mar 26, 2021 04:59
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I cooked a bunch of Korean BBQ meats last night, and it was raining, so decided to do my own version of the Rainy Day Special Mega Beef Bowl Challenge! ..... After a long attempt, I still couldn't see the rice ....... I began to suspect the bowl I created was a portal to the Meat Dimension The amount of meat contained within the bowl was truly staggering. In order to finish, I must have Understanding of my limits, Knowledge to control my pace, Courage to face the unrelenting tide of beef, and the Diligence to persevere against this colossal challenge. I guess I need to level up to try again...
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Mar 26, 2021 15:06
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neonchameleon posted:Base P5 only. The treasure demons in Royal all have weaknesses. In Royal the first one's the hardest because even Joker doesn't have the right type of attack by L10. They have weaknesses in base persona as well. It is just that if you want to deal with them without using a guide then it can be useful to have an attack with a high crit chance.
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Mar 26, 2021 15:23
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Morgana is actually fine as a party member, his HP is scarily low, but otherwise he's pretty much Yosuke+. He plateaus the worst out of any party member by the end, but at that point you can really use whoever you want so if you like cat, button mash. He's actually much improved in Strikers where he can take advantage of Technicals much better and his stronger healing repertoire is actually useful.
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Mar 26, 2021 16:39
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ApplesandOranges posted:Morgana is actually fine as a party member, his HP is scarily low, but otherwise he's pretty much Yosuke+. He plateaus the worst out of any party member by the end, but at that point you can really use whoever you want so if you like cat, button mash. In Persona 5 R at least, Morgana's Miracle Punch is an absolute beast. I used Morgana my entire playthrough almost exclusively for support / enemies weak against Wind. But man, that high-critical rate with Miracle Punch could absolutely devastate even really powerful foes. Also yes Morgana is weak but this didn't matter as I was constantly using him to cast Mediarama. With all that said, I was playing on normal so I could see his low health being a huge liability on hard and merciless.
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Mar 26, 2021 16:55
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It's not that Morgana is a bad party member at all, he's just overshadowed a bit by Makoto, who does more damage, naturally learns a buff spell, and has an element that's a pretty common weakness in several Palaces after she joins. That said, Morgana is the stronger healer and Miracle Punch can be really helpful in situations where an enemy doesn't have a weakness and you don't want to/can't set up a technical. In my P5R playthrough I used him until I got Makoto (obviously) and then again in the fifth Palace and in the vanilla final dungeon. He was really helpful as an all-around support when equipped with the Ring of Pride so he could use Charge on Joker while Joker was buffing the team with Thermopylae. Absolutely melted the vanilla final boss. I like to switch the team around for fun anyway, though. I tend to decide on team composition based on who I think would be the most fun, with preference given to characters who feel like they should be in the party for story reasons. No matter what difficulty you're on, things are never quite hard enough that you'll cripple yourself if you don't have exactly the right team.
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Mar 26, 2021 20:21
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Harrow posted:It's not that Morgana is a bad party member at all, he's just overshadowed a bit by Makoto, who does more damage, naturally learns a buff spell, and has an element that's a pretty common weakness in several Palaces after she joins. That said, Morgana is the stronger healer and Miracle Punch can be really helpful in situations where an enemy doesn't have a weakness and you don't want to/can't set up a technical. I dunno about that for Okumura, even with psycho bombs. 
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Harrow posted:It's not that Morgana is a bad party member at all, he's just overshadowed a bit by Makoto, who does more damage, naturally learns a buff spell, and has an element that's a pretty common weakness in several Palaces after she joins. That said, Morgana is the stronger healer and Miracle Punch can be really helpful in situations where an enemy doesn't have a weakness and you don't want to/can't set up a technical. And don't forget wind technicals with fire - but nuke technicals with fire, elec, and ice although fire is cheaper of course. Also Makoto has AoE physical attacks, which can be really useful and brings her much more into the game against enemies resistant to nuke. Recarm isn't that useful (if you need a recarm, which isn't often, Revivadrin are only 1800 Yen and Life Ointment 6400 Yen from the clinic before the discount - a bargain for saving a skill slot and allowing anyone to use them given how rarely you actually need them) and I rate Energy Shower over Me Patra. Which means Morgana's only real healing advantage is that he gets Salvation over an Atomic Flare equivalent.
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Mar 26, 2021 21:40
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I'm enjoying p5 a lot so far. But it really keeps you on a shorter leash than p4, at least to start. I'm in the second palace and it still feels like the game is constantly saying "hey guess what? Today we're doing this! Hope you didn't have any other plans!"
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Mar 26, 2021 21:48
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I cooked a bunch of Korean BBQ meats last night, and it was raining, so decided to do my own version of the Rainy Day Special Mega Beef Bowl Challenge! Related question: what are all the red things on the beef bowl in Ryuji/Yusuke’s Showtime attack? That bowl looks hella tasty (as does most of the food in this game) but I couldn’t figure that out Also post recipe for Korean BBQ plz
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Mar 26, 2021 22:03
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:I'm enjoying p5 a lot so far. But it really keeps you on a shorter leash than p4, at least to start. I'm in the second palace and it still feels like the game is constantly saying "hey guess what? Today we're doing this! Hope you didn't have any other plans!" Are you playing the original version or Royal? I found that the original version amplified that feeling because of how often Morgana made you go to bed something that was considerably lessened in Royal. Generally I think P5's structure has a few clusters of "today we're doing predefined things" around the beginning and end of each Palace arc but is mostly free in between. One difference I've found between P5 and P4 there is that in P4, while you did have to spend time doing investigation at the start of each dungeon's arc, you could more often do those investigation activities on whichever day you chose, and it sometimes wouldn't take up time. P5 instead sometimes forces you to take multiple days on a Palace (like when you get partway in and reach a barrier) which is similar in that you now have an activity to do on a different day, but the beginning of the infiltration is usually pretty tightly scripted, if that makes sense.
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Mar 26, 2021 22:13
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DC Murderverse posted:Related question: what are all the red things on the beef bowl in Ryuji/Yusuke’s Showtime attack? That bowl looks hella tasty (as does most of the food in this game) but I couldn’t figure that out Pretty sure it's ginger.
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Mar 26, 2021 22:16
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Yeah it's pickled ginger (which is delicious)
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Mar 26, 2021 22:17
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DC Murderverse posted:Related question: what are all the red things on the beef bowl in Ryuji/Yusuke’s Showtime attack? That bowl looks hella tasty (as does most of the food in this game) but I couldn’t figure that out I wish I could tell you I did something fancy but I just bought a lot of pre-marinated and cut meat at Hmart and tossed it on a Weber grill. If you have an Hmart near you, the meat comes in big containers. Great if you want to replicate the Mega Beef Bowl Challenge - just be sure to serve with rice!
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Mar 26, 2021 22:40
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Arist posted:Pretty sure it's ginger. Harrow posted:Yeah it's pickled ginger (which is delicious) Ah that makes sense. It kinda looked like it might be crunchy and spicy but I couldn’t think of what that might actually be
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Mar 26, 2021 23:00
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DC Murderverse posted:Ah that makes sense. It kinda looked like it might be crunchy and spicy but I couldn’t think of what that might actually be The kind used specifically in curry (and also beef bowls) is called fukujinzuke - it is indeed crunchy, but all the times I've had it, it was notably milder than sushi ginger (unless it's particularly weak), and a bit sweeter. (Granted, you can put it on anything.)
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Mar 27, 2021 04:26
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Harrow posted:Are you playing the original version or Royal? I found that the original version amplified that feeling because of how often Morgana made you go to bed something that was considerably lessened in Royal. royal, lol - can't imagine how much the cat must tell you what to do in vanilla
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Mar 27, 2021 07:40
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Yeah, Japanese curry is generally sweeter, both due to the ginger as well as incorporating things like apple. Which is fine for me, I prefer sweet to spicy.neonchameleon posted:And don't forget wind technicals with fire - but nuke technicals with fire, elec, and ice although fire is cheaper of course. Also Makoto has AoE physical attacks, which can be really useful and brings her much more into the game against enemies resistant to nuke. Recarm isn't that useful (if you need a recarm, which isn't often, Revivadrin are only 1800 Yen and Life Ointment 6400 Yen from the clinic before the discount - a bargain for saving a skill slot and allowing anyone to use them given how rarely you actually need them) and I rate Energy Shower over Me Patra. Which means Morgana's only real healing advantage is that he gets Salvation over an Atomic Flare equivalent. Strikers, again, fixes this issue; Makoto still gets Atomic Flare, but Morgana gets a passive that increases the potency of Technicals. In addition, Garudyne is very cheap compared to Atomic Flare and Burn lasts a very long time in Strikers, so Morgana can quickly rack up a lot of damage as long as he has SP to burn by spamming Garudyne. I actually end up using Makoto the least of any party member in Strikers because she really suffers from SP issues and doesn't have the damage to pay off (Morgana's better against Burn, Ryuji/Yusuke are better against Shock/Freeze).
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Is Joker’s “official” name being Ren a reference to Footloose, or is it a coincidence that both are mysterious young men going to a new school and shaking things up by telling adults to eat poo poo? What I’m asking is does he do gymnastics to music in an abandoned steel mill in the dancing spin-off? Also I keep seeing pictures of this new detailed statuette of Makoto up for pre-order and honestly I think it’s a little too horny. Makes the bottom half of her biker gear look painted on, which seems like it would not be safe to ride Johanna in https://twitter.com/persona_central/status/1365142625377021953?s=21
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Mar 27, 2021 10:20
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Yea that figurine is a bit much given that Makoto's character wasn't very comfortable with her biker costume as it was.
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Mar 27, 2021 14:05
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Maybe that's a bad angle but that's a hank hill rear end if I ever saw one.
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Mar 27, 2021 15:37
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Tired Moritz posted:Maybe that's a bad angle but that's a hank hill rear end if I ever saw one.  I'm sorry Ms. Nijima but, you have no rear end. BWAAAAAAAAH!!!
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Makoto knows a thing or two about asses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1voewuNKng
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