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Nope. Just a collaboration with a mobage and a Demi-Fiend figure.
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Apologies if this has been covered before, but official sources are making this really hard to figure out. Does the base game of the Nocturne remaster still include stuff that was added for the Maniax release in Japan, like the Labyrinth of Amala and the fiends? There's a separate Maniax pack, but it looks like it just adds Dante. I don't give a poo poo about Dante, I just want to know if I can buy only the base game and still hang out with my good friend Matador.
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Mar 25, 2021 04:56
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Assuming you're in the USA, Base version comes with Chronicle (raidou + amala) option at the start Dante is DLC
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Mar 25, 2021 05:11
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From what I understand if you're playing on PS4 or Switch, the base game includes everything that was in the Maniax Chronicle version (the one with Raidou) and the DLC just adds a toggle at the beginning of a new game that allows you to switch between Raidou and Dante. If you're playing on Steam, afaik the base game is base Nocturne, and I think both Dante and Raidou as well as the Maniax Chronicle stuff is DLC, though the Raidou/Maniax DLC may be free. It seems like they had to do the Steam port that way to appease Chinese censorship laws for to Raidou being dressed like an Imperial Japanese soldier or something like that.
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Mar 25, 2021 05:51
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Commander Keene posted:If you're playing on Steam, afaik the base game is base Nocturne, and I think both Dante and Raidou as well as the Maniax Chronicle stuff is DLC, though the Raidou/Maniax DLC may be free. It seems like they had to do the Steam port that way to appease Chinese censorship laws for to Raidou being dressed like an Imperial Japanese soldier or something like that. Yeah. In China and Korea they didn't release Raidou (I'm not sure if it's censorship laws or just a personal 'you know we probably shouldn't do this', I think it might be the latter in Korea), and on Switch and Playstation their angle there was just to release the non-Maniax version instead of the Raidou Maniax version in those countries, and have Dante be the Maniax upgrade DLC. Things went different on Steam, I think because VPNs make circumventing that much easier on PC so they need to get a bit clever. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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Mar 25, 2021 06:12
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Jesus Christ that's ridiculous But thanks, I think I get it now. I see that the base Steam release includes a Chronicle pack for "select regions", so that explains that. Though now I also see that the Steam version includes Denuvo, so maybe I should say gently caress it and get the PS4 version anyway.
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Mar 25, 2021 07:12
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Denuvo is less restrictive than PS4 DRM, even with a disc.
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Mar 25, 2021 07:20
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Erebus posted:Jesus Christ that's ridiculous So, summary:
kirbysuperstar posted:Denuvo is less restrictive than PS4 DRM, even with a disc. Eh. Denuvo requires an online check-in on first boot, and whenever there's a hardware change or major Windows update (every 6 months or so). PS4 discs only require an online check-in whenever the console's CMOS battery is replaced, so that's once every decade or more. Or I guess if the CMOS dies and you don't replace it, it'll need an online check-in every time you restart your PS4. Pick your poison.
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Mar 25, 2021 09:07
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Instant Grat posted:or major Windows update (every 6 months or so). You forgot the part where everyone on this forum runs unpatched Windows 7 because "they like it that way, security be damned"  Anyway yeah you're right, one isn't really worse than the other. Buying a physical disc just isn't the silver bullet to avoid DRM that everyone thinks it is.
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Mar 25, 2021 09:35
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Finally digging properly into IV Apocalypse so I can have played through it before I'm ready to slam 3HD into my Switch and drat, Manabu was a real one. Strong ally vibes in dude being "if this is what they say their name is now then this is what we should call them." I'd kinda forgotten that this starts mid-endgame of IV so Flynn and Isabeau sweeping in to save us while we're trying to prove ourselves as hunters was cool And dang these battle themes slap
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Mar 25, 2021 09:36
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Strikers is reminding me why Haru is probably my favourite Phantom Thief. She’s got interesting relationships with characters, a friendly and fun personality while also wielding an axe and grenade launcher in battle. Spamming grenades at the enemy never gets old  .
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Mar 26, 2021 00:15
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Should I pick Raidou or Dante from the Devil May Cry series?
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Mar 26, 2021 00:21
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You get a talking cat with one choice, and a pizza party with the other
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Mar 26, 2021 00:24
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raidou kicks rear end
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Mar 26, 2021 00:25
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So two months to go and they finally confirmed the Steam version for Nocturne. Was totally dead set on getting it for Switch so it could follow me around the house or wherever (in a future tense), but now I don't know 
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Mar 26, 2021 00:29
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AlphaKeny1 posted:Should I pick Raidou or Dante from the Devil May Cry series? In the original PS2 releases Raidou was stronger because one of his attacks had Pierce, while Dante's didn't; they were otherwise identical in gameplay. I think they gave Dante's equivalent attack Pierce in the remaster, so it's up to preference. Although, can someone who knows DMC confirm which design Dante's using? I don't remember if it's the DMC2 or 3 design, and there's... a BIG difference between those.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:33
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DMC2.
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It was DMC2 before.Andrigaar posted:So two months to go and they finally confirmed the Steam version for Nocturne. Was totally dead set on getting it for Switch so it could follow me around the house or wherever (in a future tense), but now I don't know The Steam version uses garbage DRM, apparently.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:35
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Edit:Wrong thread.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:43
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So I got to Kyoto in Strikers. Seeing the crew encounter a Phantom Thieves super fun is hilarious.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:56
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Lotus Aura posted:The Steam version uses garbage DRM, apparently. I hate Denuvo, but I think most or all of the big Japanese developers refuse to stop using it until what must be a big sales dip. So far it hasn't given me issues, but that's a weak argument to support a game that does use it when other people do have issues with it.
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Mar 26, 2021 01:00
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Despite the game being absolute garbage DMC2 Dante is a cool design
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Mar 26, 2021 01:10
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Cleretic posted:In the original PS2 releases Raidou was stronger because one of his attacks had Pierce, while Dante's didn't; they were otherwise identical in gameplay. I think they gave Dante's equivalent attack Pierce in the remaster, so it's up to preference. They tack Pierce onto Dante's Amp passive now, so he and Raidou are identical.
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Mar 27, 2021 02:23
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The Switch version runs abysmally, right? If so I'll probably skip that. Does the dante DLC do anything other than dante or is 'pack' just a marketing buzzword?
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Mar 27, 2021 03:17
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Acerbatus posted:The Switch version runs abysmally, right? it's basically the same stuff as the raidou version (extra dungeon and contents), but with dante! i think there were some patches for the switch version too, but i've never played nocturne so i dunno how it stacks up now
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Mar 27, 2021 03:29
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Acerbatus posted:The Switch version runs abysmally, right? I think the remaster as a whole had some framerate issues that are genuine bugs across both Switch and PS4, it's just that the Switch was the more interesting and so more reported-on version. I'm not sure if it's been fixed yet, but if it hasn't, you won't be able to dodge it with a different version.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:40
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The switch version runs completely fine, in my experience.
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Mar 27, 2021 05:04
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It’s a turn based RPG so it’s not like it needs to run at 120Hz to be playable
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Mar 27, 2021 05:07
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Someone else asked me this and I couldn't find any info about it: Since the HD remaster added Pierce to Dante's moveset, did they also make it so you're able to fuse Dante and Raidou with Mitamas to power them up?
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Mar 27, 2021 06:32
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Raidou owns and they should make more Raidou games
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Mar 27, 2021 06:45
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SoR Blaze posted:Raidou owns and they should make more Raidou games 
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Mar 27, 2021 09:35
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They have the HD model now, so they could at least do a HD remake of Soulless Army and/or King Abaddon to test if there's an audience there for a Raidou 3. Which there is. There definitely, definitely is.
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Lotus Aura posted:They have the HD model now, so they could at least do a HD remake of Soulless Army and/or King Abaddon to test if there's an audience there for a Raidou 3. I mean you'd still need to make a lot of other HD assets. Also: is there?
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Mar 27, 2021 21:13
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I name all of my persona MCs raidou so that I can pretend they're the sequels atlus will never give us
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Mar 27, 2021 21:22
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There are probably more people that want a Paragon reboot than raidou sequel
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Mar 27, 2021 21:39
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Blockhouse posted:I mean you'd still need to make a lot of other HD assets. The vast, vast majority of the other HD assets would also be in HD Nocturne, along with y'know SMTV and Persona 5 (Royal/Strikers). There'd still be some stuff that needs to be made, yes, but most of it would be reusable. King Abaddon competes with Nocturne for most popular SMT game across the entire series. If there's a viable audience for one, then that clearly implies there's an audience for the other.
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Mar 28, 2021 01:45
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Lotus Aura posted:King Abaddon competes with Nocturne for most popular SMT game across the entire series. [citation needed]
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Mar 28, 2021 01:54
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Pretty sure HD Nocturne's models are the same as they were on PS2
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Mar 28, 2021 01:55
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I can't wait for nocturne remaster to release so we can get smt v news
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Lotus Aura posted:The vast, vast majority of the other HD assets would also be in HD Nocturne, along with y'know SMTV and Persona 5 (Royal/Strikers). There'd still be some stuff that needs to be made, yes, but most of it would be reusable. Can you provide a citation for that? Even if you ignore the Persona games I'm pretty sure SMTIV was the best-selling mainline SMT to date.
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