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Augus posted:they never said which version of Superman they were talking about You know, this moment could actually happen in the knightmare future. Not with Jimmy, oc.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Find a single shot like this in an Iron Mans movie. Do it. I dare you. 
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Mar 29, 2021 20:10
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FilthyImp posted:Easy This is not what I was expecting but as always CD never disappoints.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:13
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I was going to say, if there was going to be a decent shot it would be pre-Avengers, where the MCU house style hadn't yet taken hold.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:17
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Jerk McJerkface posted:This is not what I was expecting but as always CD never disappoints.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:38
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FilthyImp posted:Easy Lmao
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Mar 29, 2021 20:51
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Almost Blue posted:I thought the priest was supposed to be one of the bullies from when Clark was a kid? I don’t think so but I am pretty sure the priest is the guy presiding over Clark’s funeral at the end of BvS
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Mar 29, 2021 21:17
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The priest isn't from Smallville, and the Kents are Methodist iirc
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Mar 29, 2021 21:35
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Blood Boils posted:The priest isn't from Smallville, and the Kents are Methodist iirc I'll have to rewatch the film. For some reason, I always assumed Clark went to a church in Metropolis, but Clark wouldn't have any reason to be in Metropolis at that point, right? So wouldn't it make more sense for it to be a priest for Smallville? And he appeared at Clark's funeral - I suppose the assumption is either he was the pastor at the family's church, or Clark visited him regularly enough that he knew to reach out to Martha Kent after Superman was killed. Julius CSAR posted:I don’t think so but I am pretty sure the priest is the guy presiding over Clark’s funeral at the end of BvS Yes, it's the same character at the funeral roffels fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Mar 29, 2021 |
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Mar 29, 2021 21:42
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Almost Blue posted:I thought the priest was supposed to be one of the bullies from when Clark was a kid? The IHOP manager is Pete Ross, that's obvious. Smallville's pastor (who also speaks at Clark's funeral in BvS) is the leader of the bullies who attacks Clark outside the garage in a flashback, but he's never named - you just have to go off cinematic language and the resemblance of the actors.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:56
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Schwarzwald posted:You know, this moment could actually happen in the knightmare future. Make it the cop that Lois always sees visiting the monument and it works just as well. Wait, didn't Superman almost kill (Donner Superman) Jimmy in this movie?
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Mar 29, 2021 21:59
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Darko posted:Make it the cop that Lois always sees visiting the monument and it works just as well.
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Mar 29, 2021 22:02
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The only conclusion we can draw is that despite his friendly demeanour, he is 100% CIA keeping tabs on Lois.
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Mar 29, 2021 22:34
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roffels posted:I'll have to rewatch the film. For some reason, I always assumed Clark went to a church in Metropolis, but Clark wouldn't have any reason to be in Metropolis at that point, right? So wouldn't it make more sense for it to be a priest for Smallville? And he appeared at Clark's funeral - I suppose the assumption is either he was the pastor at the family's church, or Clark visited him regularly enough that he knew to reach out to Martha Kent after Superman was killed. If it's a United methodist church, priests are rotated out every few years. They aren't necessarily local. Say my parents church I think one out of the last 5 they've had has been local originally.
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Mar 29, 2021 22:43
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Jerk McJerkface posted:This is not what I was expecting but as always CD never disappoints. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I was going to say, if there was going to be a decent shot it would be pre-Avengers, where the MCU house style hadn't yet taken hold.  Do you bleed, Stebe? You will...
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Roman posted:Found out he's played by Marc McClure aka 70s movie Jimmy Olsen, which was neat I looked this up and found that for some reason Whedon changed the cop's name. What a weirdly petty thing to do. Also had no idea that Jimmy Olsen was in Apollo 13 and the Back to the Future sequels.
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Mar 29, 2021 22:46
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This is a pretty good shot ngl Needs more empty cars though
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McCloud posted:This is a pretty good shot ngl Plus, needs more bitching sparks
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roffels posted:I'll have to rewatch the film. For some reason, I always assumed Clark went to a church in Metropolis, but Clark wouldn't have any reason to be in Metropolis at that point, right? So wouldn't it make more sense for it to be a priest for Smallville? And he appeared at Clark's funeral - I suppose the assumption is either he was the pastor at the family's church, or Clark visited him regularly enough that he knew to reach out to Martha Kent after Superman was killed. Clark isn't in Kansas when he goes into that church. Its not super clear where it is, the coast somewhere? Anyways the priest doesn't know him when they talk, they don't have a previous relationship. They may have exchanged enough info for the guy to reach out to Martha or Lois after Beavis, it's not super important how. Mameluke posted:The IHOP manager is Pete Ross, that's obvious. Smallville's pastor (who also speaks at Clark's funeral in BvS) is the leader of the bullies who attacks Clark outside the garage in a flashback, but he's never named - you just have to go off cinematic language and the resemblance of the actors. That would be neat but I don't think the cinematic language is saying that, they don't recognize each other for starters when Clark enters the church
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Ah, but don't they? The priest may not recognize him, but it's compelling to think that Clark went to this guy specifically. Maybe he feels that someone who was antagonistic to him can give him advice without sparing his feelings, or maybe he does want a spiritual perspective and knows how that guy ended up
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Something that really clicked for me watching this is how across these movies how isolated Superman is constantly shown as being. Like the guy is clearly loved by his mother, fathers, Lois etc. But not much in the way of cheering crowds and inspirational speeches. When he does get fawning adoration he looks uncomfortable. And for the most part he seems to enjoy being left alone to do poo poo like wander up mountains. It’s constantly drawn attention to that there’s a wall between him and the wider world. Probably the most introvert superman I’ve seen.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I mean Alfred says it was Batman's idea so I don't think that's true. I have no idea how someone could watch that scene and not think the inspiration for batmans bracers that do exacty what wonder woman's bracers do was copied from wonder woman's bracers, after she explicitly addresses it.
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Chairman Capone posted:I looked this up and found that for some reason Whedon changed the cop's name. What a weirdly petty thing to do.
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pile of brown posted:I have no idea how someone could watch that scene and not think the inspiration for batmans bracers that do exacty what wonder woman's bracers do was copied from wonder woman's bracers, after she explicitly addresses it.
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Her response to seeing it was "how about a lasso too"
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josh04 posted:The only conclusion we can draw is that despite his friendly demeanour, he is 100% CIA keeping tabs on Lois. A beloved Superman side character going places with Lois, revealing themselves to be CIA, and then getting shot in the head could have been a great running gag. "Lois, I'm not really a sherpa. My name is Bibbo Bibowski, and I'm CIA." BANG
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pile of brown posted:I have no idea how someone could watch that scene and not think the inspiration for batmans bracers that do exacty what wonder woman's bracers do was copied from wonder woman's bracers, after she explicitly addresses it.
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massive spider posted:When he does get fawning adoration he looks uncomfortable. And for the most part he seems to enjoy being left alone to do poo poo like wander up mountains. It’s constantly drawn attention to that there’s a wall between him and the wider world. Probably the most introvert superman I’ve seen. Makes perfect sense to me. Clark is some quiet, humble guy from the midwest, and suddenly in his 30's people have started revering him as a living God. That sounds goddamn horrible. I'd want to gently caress off to the middle of nowhere, too. An extremely coherent and human reaction IMO.
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I'm looking at Josstice League and made it to the thirsty convo and I just can't take it. The Amazon battle and Stephen Wolf are just soooooooo bad without the beats that make that action scene work as an actual chase. And the lack of actual score including the [wailing].
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Mar 30, 2021 02:25
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Darko posted:I'm looking at Josstice League and made it to the thirsty convo and I just can't take it. The Amazon battle and Stephen Wolf are just soooooooo bad without the beats that make that action scene work as an actual chase. And the lack of actual score including the [wailing]. It's still unclear what she actually plans to do with the Motherbox once it leaves the gigantic, conspicuous fortified bunker in the middle of nowhere, made for easy access by enemies attacking from the otherwise barren coastline. Or what they think arrows are going to do to the ancient, indestructible cube. It makes the humans burying theirs in a shallow grave and calling it good seem relatively inspired.
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Darko posted:I'm looking at Josstice League and made it to the thirsty convo and I just can't take it. The Amazon battle and Stephen Wolf are just soooooooo bad without the beats that make that action scene work as an actual chase. And the lack of actual score including the [wailing]. This MF said Stephen Wolf Sodomy Hussein posted:It's still unclear what she actually plans to do with the Motherbox once it leaves the gigantic, conspicuous fortified bunker in the middle of nowhere, made for easy access by enemies attacking from the otherwise barren coastline. Or what they think arrows are going to do to the ancient, indestructible cube. I assumed she was trying to get it to the rest of the amazonian legions.
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I finally watched this and it was dope. A little bloated, but I understand the desire to get everything in there since it’s on a streaming platform and there’s not going to be a chance to follow up. I do think the general reaction would be worse if it was shorter because the first thing to go would be a lot of the jokes. I think the first half is stronger than the second half but maybe I was just flagging by hour 4.
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ESTABLISHING SHOT: Barn outside a farmhouse - 1980s We hear a man's scream: "Martha, no!" Then we hear a crash and cut to the inside of the barn. A man in his mid-20's (Jonathan Kent, played by an aged-down Kevin Costner) is lying in a heap underneath a fallen ladder, one leg bent at a bad angle, blood staining his face. We see a woman, mid-20s, (Martha Kent, played by an aged-down Diane Lane) standing over him, bottle of gin in one hand and waving the long knife she grips in the other. Jonathan: Martha, please! Martha (swaying, obviously drunk): I should have done this a long time ago Jonathan Kent, you worthless, good-for-nothing-- She bends over him and raises the knife, but wait! A large dark figure springs from a corner of the barn and crashes into her before she can stab Jonathan. As she falls over, we cut to a shot of her head banging into the edge of a heavy tractor, and a trickle of blood comes from her ear. The dark figure kneels next to Jonathan, recognizable as a large man but the cape and cowl on his shoulders prevent us from seeing more than the top of his head. We see the back of his head -- bald, smooth, and maybe dark green? Dark Figure (in a slightly-otherworldly baritone): Are you okay, Jonathan? I couldn't stand back and watch her hurt you anymore. Jonathan (grimacing in pain): I...I think so. Not going to be doing much walking on this leg for a while, though. Is Martha...? The dark figure hunches over Martha's body for a moment, feeling her neck for a pulse. Dark Figure: She's dead. I'm so sorry. I...I didn't mean to, but-- Jonathan (closing his eyes): It couldn't be helped. I always knew that woman was going to kill me. I just don't know what happened to the sweet girl I married. The dark figure kneels beside Jonathan again, cradling his head in his arms. Dark Figure: You're a good man, Jonathan Kent. You deserve much better. Jonathan: Who... who are you, anyway? Why do your eyes look red? Dark Figure: My name is J'onn J'onnz, and I'm... from a place far away from here. It's a long story, but it'll have to wait till we get you cleaned up and into bed. (he drops his eyes, and smiles sheepishly) I... know I must look a little different than what you're used to. Jonathan grips J'onn J'onnz's arm, and looks deep into the other man's eyes. Jonathan: Well, you look great from where I'm sitting. The camera pulls away from the pair as we watch J'onn J'onnz carefully lift Jonathan up and into his arms and then stop and gaze into his face. Then the larger man smiles, and we see him carry Jonathan out through the door, reminiscent of a husband carrying his spouse over the threshold on their first day of marriage. Cut to: TITLE CARD Zack Snyder presents Martian Manhunter: Green is the Color of Love We hear Jonathan's voice: "What are we going to tell people about Martha?" Voice of J'onn J'onnz: I've got some ideas about that.
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Unfortunately having just re-watched BvS there is a moment after saving Martha and after Doomsday is created, where, if I recall correctly, we cut directly back and forth between her and Swanwick as the military starts analyzing what the hell Doomsday is. I'm pretty sure it basically has to be the same moment too, ie not just editing trickery or whatever. Kinda weird... almost like Snyder knew this would be a lingering question. e: Oh wait I guess...... I guess Swanwick could just be an actual dude who J'onn impersonates occasionally Martman fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Martman posted:e: Oh wait I guess...... I guess Swanwick could just be an actual dude who J'onn impersonates occasionally
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Timeless Appeal posted:I feel like the fact that he turns into him after Martha, are both played by Harry Lennix so the voice is the same and they have similar facial features kind of implies that Swanwick is his default and isn't a real person. Swanwick is probably a real person that J'onn met and took his identity when he died. That's his general backstory. This military guy or scientist found his ship, J'onn morphed into his true form and the dude got so scared he had a heart attack and died. So then J'onn took his identity and resolved to hide his true self.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I feel like the fact that he turns into him after Martha, are both played by Harry Lennix so the voice is the same and they have similar facial features kind of implies that Swanwick is his default and isn't a real person.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Swanwick is probably a real person that J'onn met and took his identity when he died. That's his general backstory. This military guy or scientist found his ship, J'onn morphed into his true form and the dude got so scared he had a heart attack and died. So then J'onn took his identity and resolved to hide his true self. Snyder says in an interview that swanwick has always been MMs alternate identity not some random he met. Starts at 21:00 in https://youtu.be/8qBQvwXLoQk
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