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Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
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College Slice
Docks




Retail




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JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Selachian posted:

Get Fuzzy 3/29/01



And yeah, Austin Powers jokes were already old in 2001.

I'd argue that this is one of those things where time has allowed it to loop back around to being incredibly funny.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

The Dinette Set knows where the best seats are.


Working Daze yeah I don't know.


Super-Fun-Pak Comix hasn't aged well.


Cul De Sac gets beneath the surface.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Family Circus


Rose is Rose


One Big Happy


Foob


Compu-Toon


Bizarro

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

EDUCATION LEADS TO DISOBEDIENCE. REJECT EDUCATION. KNOW YOUR PLACE.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Cobalt-60 posted:

It's impressive output, but it's no surprise he doesn't bother actually thinking anything through. I doubt he's considered any of the implications that people keep bringing up.
Yeah, if he meant the rabbit rat lady as a trans metaphor it'd be very obvious.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
We now return to :siren: THE POTLATCH RIOT OF 1913 (or "What the city of Seattle did on Dok Hager's summer vacation") :siren:

(In case you missed part one)

Part 2: The Brawl



(Alden J. Blethen, c. 1900.)

For our purposes, the opening days of the 1913 Golden Potlatch in Seattle were marked by an event and an incident. The event was receiving the guest of honor, Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels, who reviewed a parade of several thousand military men and fraternal orders and gave a patriotic speech at a banquet held for him at the Rainier Club.

But the incident? Oh boy, about that incident...

There are two almost completely incompatible versions of the July 17th melee on Washington Street. That one was propagated by an owner/editor with a woodshed of axes to grind doesn’t lessen the maximum Rashomon of the situation, especially since things escalated in a screaming hurry before anyone attempted to reconcile the warring accounts. But let’s start the one that had the most direct influence.



In its afternoon edition on the following day, the Times presented a decidedly florid story about an IWW street speaker on the soapbox who turned her attention to three totally sober and “gentlemanly” soldiers and two sailors who just happened to be walking by. She cast aspersions on the uniform, and they did their best to turn the other cheek, but she had stirred the audience against them, with the crowd approaching them with shouts of “Get them!” and “To hell with the flag!” One soldier was attacked by “two heavy lumberjacks”, while another was “gashed in several places by an IWW with a small knife”. They all went down and “the mob jumped on them with their heavy shoes”.

The Post-Intelligencer, the city's morning paper, was slightly more politically neutral (and significantly less colorful) in their account, but generally agreed with the outline the Times presented, laying the blame on the speaker and the crowd while exonerating the military immediately.

The version of the story that the Times published wove the story of the Washington Street brawl around the Daniels speech, which they painted as directly denouncing both the IWW and “un-American mayors”. George Cotterill, the mayor at the time, was a naturalized citizen, and Colonel Blethen had a bone to pick with him, too, over allowing street speakers in the first place. For maximum impact, it was published under a headline conflating the two events.



It opened in the grand tradition of telling you how to feel about a story before actually telling you the story:

"Practically at the very moment a gang of red flag worshipers and anarchists were brutally beating two bluejackets and three soldiers who had dared protest against the insults heaped on the American flag at a soap box meeting on Washington Street last night, Secretary of the Navy Daniels, in the great banquet hall of the Rainier Club, cheered on by the wildly enthusiastic and patriotic Americans present, flayed as a type the mayor of any city who permits red flag demonstrations in the community of which he is the head."

The result was a blood-boiling account, but it was an account with some major problems. For starters, Secretary Daniels’ speech had never referenced the IWW or Seattle-area politics. By his own characterization, it was a one-size-fits-all call to patriotism, the same speech he’d previously given in Erie, Pennsylvania.

The other problem was there was a competing narrative in the pro-labor/pro-socialist weeklies, and apart from a woman on a soapbox and a soldier getting stabbed, it barely matched at all.

For starters, the pro-labor Union Record and the state Socialist party organ, The Commonwealth, both claimed that the IWW wouldn’t have been out that day, because they had decided to sit out Potlatch week entirely. Instead, this version of the incident centered around the affidavit of Mrs. Annie Miller, a woman with no IWW ties who was speaking on the topic of women’s suffrage when a drunken sailor began insulting her. He left the scene, only to come back with eight or nine companions, who proceeded to seize the speaker’s table, scatter the literature on it, and dare anyone to fight them.

In this version, when Mrs. Miller tried to collect her things and leave, one of the sailors took a swing at her and another grabbed her by her clothes, which is the point where a well-dressed man wearing a diamond ring--both papers singled out this detail--stepped up and asked “Would you dare strike a woman?” And that, by their telling, is when the fight broke out.

To be fair, the pro-Socialist outlets had their reasons to spin this incident (which we'll get to soon enough), but Mayor Cotterill, speaking after the Times account but before the weeklies chimed in, summed up the incident as “an ordinary drunken sailor street fight, occasioned by an attack upon a harmless woman speaker, [which] was quickly and thoroughly handled by the police without serious injury to anyone.” After the fact, the Seattle Police Department also released eyewitness testimonies that verified, at the very least, that the Wobblies didn’t have any part of it, and the soldiers and sailors had kicked the whole sorry affair into motion.

Anyway, the weeklies published their accounts as a post-mortem to everything that followed. The Times, on the other hand, published their version in their afternoon edition of July 18, 1913, while the incident was still fresh, and that was the telling which inspired people to hit the streets.

By the end of the night, those people were lighting fires.

And since you've made it this far, here's more about the duck vacation.







(The Weather, July 13-15, 1913)

Tomorrow: The riot.

EasyEW fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Mar 30, 2021

Transmodiar
Jul 9, 2005

You're a terrible person, Mildred.
Modesty Blaise



Forum accident
Jun 15, 2006

All hail Thor...the THUNDER GOD!

Doomykins posted:

"Jucika and the Cat-caller."


"Books" in panel 2 on the sign, "Judo" in panel 3 on the book. "Aszfaltbetyár" literally translates to "Asphalt rascal." Translation is provided at lightning speed on every tweet at JucikaDaily by Cynderspark.

This was an extremely weird coincidence to start my day off with.

Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
Hahahahaha! Jucika is definitely Everett-adjacent on tiers of power associated with sense of righteousness. Billy and his blanket death cult lack that inner strength.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



I like the history lessons with the comic updates, keep 'em up!

And - on that note of history and comics, in today's Blueberry: For God's sake, man - STOP MENTIONING ANTS AROUND THEM!, or Evidence article C for Blueberry's pyromaniacal tendencies, or Blueberry has friends in high places



Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


EasyEW posted:

We now return to :siren: THE POTLATCH RIOT OF 1913 (or "What the city of Seattle did on Dok Hager's summer vacation") :siren:

(In case you missed part one)

Part 2: The Brawl
I'm enjoying this, just so you know.

F Minus



Mark Trail



Mary Worth



The Phantom



Pooch Cafe



Rex Morgan MD



Andertoons



Apartment 3-G

LazyQ
Feb 22, 2011

Mämmilä (January 26, 1991)

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

The Trails should solve this problem by threatening to install a 40 foot high ham radio tower.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

LazyQ posted:

Mämmilä (January 26, 1991)



:unsmith:

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Ballard Street

There's always next time, Reg.




This cracks me up big time. Why is he so happy? Who could know :allears:




Not to go off on a tangent, but this is a good reason I love Ballard Street. It's almost entirely devoid of cynicism. I feel a lot of other cartoonists (especially on the older side) would enter Boomer-mode with this sort of joke; trying to show this as something inherently bad. But Van Amerongen is content showing these folks just happily talking into their phones, with no obvious judgement past upon them.




That's a happy horse.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Mark Trail Versus The HOA wasn't an arc I expected.

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

B Kliban





That's certainly something ...

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

Vargo posted:

Wallace


Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



I love the seagulls in Wallace the Brave.

Drimble Wedge
Mar 10, 2008

Self-contained

Scary Gary







Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Okay everyone, of the currently running strips that are posted in the thread (so no classics from years past), what are your top three favorites? Here are mine. Counting down:

3. Andertoons. I'm a little surprised I rate this one so highly, but it's funny a surprising amount of the time, and it's almost always at least clever. (And I'm amazed that he's still finding new punchlines for "people looking at a graph".)

2. Arlo and Janis. It's honest, endearing, and usually about fuckin'. I never really got this strip as a kid, but now that I'm a bit older, it's awesome. (And it's also kind of a relationship goal for when we reach that age.)

....drumroll....

1. Wallace the Brave. If any strip is the spiritual successor to Cul de Sac and Calvin and Hobbes, it's this one. Childhood whimsy and imagination, but without ever feeling cloying.

If you have a favorite you'd like to name but it isn't being posted in the thread, well then, this is your call to start posting it! :)

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

It's pretty much impossible to tell the difference between Deep Phantom Lore and the writers just having a laugh.

Vargo
Dec 27, 2008

'Cuz it's KILLIN' ME!
Andertoons is consistently good, which is all you can really ask from a one-paneler. But if I was going to give a top three spot to a single-panel strip, I think F Minus would edge out Andertoons for me. Maybe Junk Drawer would win too if it had a more consistent output.


I remember reading this one in a collection as a kid, and even then the writing pissed me off. "Of all the bags we're taking home, which one do you think is the heaviest?" What? No one would ask that. No child would wonder that, and if they did, they could just... lift them up and find out.

I guess I could see a small child asking that, but not a junior high student like Elizabeth. It's just so poorly and unnaturally constructed to get to the "punch line" which isn't even good.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Vargo posted:

I remember reading this one in a collection as a kid, and even then the writing pissed me off. "Of all the bags we're taking home, which one do you think is the heaviest?" What? No one would ask that. No child would wonder that, and if they did, they could just... lift them up and find out.

I guess I could see a small child asking that, but not a junior high student like Elizabeth. It's just so poorly and unnaturally constructed to get to the "punch line" which isn't even good.
It's so easy to fix, too! "Wow these bags are heavy" . o O (Not as heavy as GUILT)

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

Powered Descent posted:

Okay everyone, of the currently running strips that are posted in the thread (so no classics from years past), what are your top three favorites? Here are mine. Counting down:

3. Andertoons. I'm a little surprised I rate this one so highly, but it's funny a surprising amount of the time, and it's almost always at least clever. (And I'm amazed that he's still finding new punchlines for "people looking at a graph".)

2. Arlo and Janis. It's honest, endearing, and usually about fuckin'. I never really got this strip as a kid, but now that I'm a bit older, it's awesome. (And it's also kind of a relationship goal for when we reach that age.)

....drumroll....

1. Wallace the Brave. If any strip is the spiritual successor to Cul de Sac and Calvin and Hobbes, it's this one. Childhood whimsy and imagination, but without ever feeling cloying.

If you have a favorite you'd like to name but it isn't being posted in the thread, well then, this is your call to start posting it! :)

Currently, my top three are:

3) Arlo and Janice - King of the Family Strips

2) Nu-Mark Trail - A bit because of the novelty of the new creator, but mostly because it is actually making an effort to move its stories along.

1) Wallace the Brave - Obviously.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Top three? That's tough, but I'd probably say (in no particular order):

1. Wallace The Brave
2. Arlo and Janis. This strip was in my paper growing up and I didn't 'get' it as a kid. But it has one of the best and most realistic marriage relationships of all the comics featured here.
3. Retail. It's a love-hate relationship, since it's a pretty good strip but it almost never fails to make me angry on Marla/Stuart's behalf.

I have mixed feelings about Everett True and Docks (it's a great strip but can get bogged down in early 2000s pop culture I no longer care about). Dustin is definitely the biggest hate read of the thread for me.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Top three? That's tough, but I'd probably say (in no particular order):

1. Wallace The Brave
2. Arlo and Janis. This strip was in my paper growing up and I didn't 'get' it as a kid. But it has one of the best and most realistic marriage relationships of all the comics featured here.
3. Retail. It's a love-hate relationship, since it's a pretty good strip but it almost never fails to make me angry on Marla/Stuart's behalf.

I have mixed feelings about Everett True and Docks (it's a great strip but can get bogged down in early 2000s pop culture I no longer care about). Dustin is definitely the biggest hate read of the thread for me.

Same top three and last place for me. The day that Steve Kelley's arthritic boomer hands can't hold a drawing implement anymore is a day I will celebrate annually.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

1. All comics are terrible

sluggo is lit, read comics, especially bad ones

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

Top three in no particular order formme would be Arlo & Janis ,Wallace and vintage Valiant. But a lot of others would be pretty high especially a lot of the older ones, and while I do prefer the single panel Mopsy the actual strip ones almost never fail to make me smile. And then there are some that I don't find funny the historical context the posters bring up makes them pretty interesting.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Top 3 overall are
Arlo & Janis
Mämmilä
Wallace


In no particular order after that, Nu-nancy, nu-mark trail, Lockhorns, andertoons, nekonaughy.

I'd put robbie & bobbie on here but we're on like loop 4 of the archives so I tend to just skip past them, or only glance.

e: Pooch Cafe too, I always look forward to that one. Zits is fine most of the time but not "top 10" material.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Wallace, BCN, A&J

Honorable mention to Crabgrass since it's not technically a newspaper strip

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Wallace and Classic Val are up there for me.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


A&J, K&K, and F Minus are probably my favorites to read.

manero
Jan 30, 2006

:justpost: but :readcomics:

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


My current faves are Wallace, a+j, crabgrass, nekonaughy, and boss dharma. I enjoy the weird Scandinavian ones that sometimes come up in bunches too.

My absolute favourites in the thread are Classic Val, Thimble Theatre, and The Far Side, though I never skip Retail or Surgeon's Tales

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

To be honest, it's the classic strips more than the current ones that keep me coming back here. My top three modern ones - which I'd say are probably Crabgrass, Wallace the Brave, and Arlo & Janis in no particular order - are great, but if the diligence of goons ever fails, I could still keep up with them through official channels.

That would be much more difficult to do with Thimble Theater and classic Prince Valiant, and basically impossible for the original translations such as Surgeon's Tales and Boss Dharma. Plus, I also enjoy belonging to a community of people who hate Dustin every day, and I simply couldn't get that as a solitary reader.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Bad Machinery

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

That panel four side profile on Archie there is a bit of a holy poo poo look at it.

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Medenmath
Jan 18, 2003
Vintage Valiant (Jun. 25, 1944)



The Medieval Castle (Jun. 25, 1944)


I don't know if I care to rank things, but I guess I'm most pleased by all the old strips and the non-American comics I'd never see otherwise, especially things that people translate just for the thread. But I like lots of the modern strips too! I don't think I could pare my list down.

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