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and yet HBO just gave GRRM a big pile of cash to (presumably) not write anything also it feels to me like the franchise as a whole kind of lost a lot of the momentum it had with the controversial final season. I didn't watch it but that is just the general impression I get from fans who did.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Not actually; Luke doesn't even give an accurate synopsis. This is one of those 'meta' readings that doesn't withstand scrutiny, like Rey being a Star Wars fan. Or Kylo Ren being a Star Wars fan. Or Hux being a Star Wars fan. Or Maz Katana being a Star Wars fan. Luke on the other hand gives a synopsis that is about as good as anyone who saw the prequels 15 years ago can give you. He focuses on the Jedi being unable to see Darth Sideous right under their noses and their utter failure to stop him because that's what's important to him. He believed the bill of goods Obiwan sold him, hence his disillusionment.
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FlamingLiberal posted:also it feels to me like the franchise as a whole kind of lost a lot of the momentum it had with the controversial final season. I didn't watch it but that is just the general impression I get from fans who did. the ending honestly wasn't even the lowest point of the last 2-3 seasons but I guess too many people were hoping it would redeem the rest.
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The United States posted:Rey is clearly a Star Wars fan in that she has heard someone describe the story third hand and has some of the toys and she imagines herself a daring fighter pilot destroying the "death sphere" and saving the galaxy. She has not heard anything about the prequels. Ok, so both characters represent idiots with a poor understanding of their own history. Rey is vaguely aware of World War II because of the planes. Luke professes to know that the Treaty Of Versailles was a thing, but botches the details. That’s the issue: for it to be a proper analogy, they would need to be fans of popular fiction in the diegesis.
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Fried Watermelon posted:He's never going to finish them He's been working on the things for 20+ years, I can understand not wanting to write about swords and lemon cakes for a little bit Especially after the showrunners utterly beefed their adaptation so they could run off to make Star Wars (and lost that, presumably because sabotaging your breakout show to do a different show doesn't instill confidence)
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FlamingLiberal posted:and yet HBO just gave GRRM a big pile of cash to (presumably) not write anything It's still going to be a while before anything new comes out so maybe some of the sourness over S8 will have passed. At least for casual watchers.
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There was no listed reason but Mortal Kombat was pushed back one week to the 23rd.
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Neurolimal posted:He's been working on the things for 20+ years, I can understand not wanting to write about swords and lemon cakes for a little bit He’s going to die before he ever publishes another word of it.
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muscles like this! posted:There was no listed reason but Mortal Kombat was pushed back one week to the 23rd. Seems to be a reaction to the quite decent (or better than expected) Chinese box office take for Godzilla V Kong. Giving it another week of prime position hoping thats replicated domestically.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:He’s going to die before he ever publishes another word of it. What's dumb is there is like 3/4 of a book done and he's even published a bunch of chapters of it but lol at finishing it when you can just go to conventions and get paid mad tv money to write plots on napkins that other people will turn into shows
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/thr/status/1376913243898327041?s=21 If it’s anything like the play from that one episode, it will be much better than the show or the books.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:If it’s anything like the play from that one episode, it will be much better than the show or the books. But there is so much potential here -gory stage effects were a thing for at least 2500 years before suddenly vanishing as live theater stopped being a working class entertainment when radio took off. Stuart Gordon used a lot of practical effects to great effect in the 80’s, as did the first Conan movie. And the techniques they used would have been known to Shakespeare and probably to Euripides. Also, nudity works well on stage, nobody expects an injection to the dick in person unless they’ve already seen Trainspotting.
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I’d go just to see the child mannequin of Bran pitched off the above stage scaffolding.
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Everyone sitting in the first five rows needs to be offered a protective plastic tarp.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Everyone sitting in the first five rows needs to be offered a protective plastic tarp. A Storm of GWARS.
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Stop it, Y’all are making me like this idea. Anybody else see the Evil Dead musical?
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Remulak posted:Stuart Gordon used a lot of practical effects to great effect in the 80’s Reanimator The Musical also has a Splash Zone
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Remulak posted:Stop it, Y’all are making me like this idea. I saw the Chicago run cause my friend was in it. I thought the songs were fun, I remember the book being pretty embarassingly bad, but it was certainly gory and I think most people got what they were going for.
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I'm ok with Gurm never finishing the books. I got a lot of enjoyment out of the ones that do exist, warts and all. If he ever concludes, I'll be happy and buy them books. If he doesn't, no skin off my back.
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I'm actually pretty sure I can pinpoint the exact moment GRRM realized he couldn't finish the books. He was at a convention nerding out with fans of the book series, and they were discussing all the prophesies and poo poo. The topic came up of how the previous "hero of ancient legend" basically made his glowing fire sword by stabbing it through his beloved's chest, which was in line with the whole sacrifice theme of the books. Somebody mentioned that this likely meant that Jon was going to have to kill Dany to win or something. There was this slight twinkle in GRRM's eyes, but before he could respond a female fan spoke up and said something along the lines of, "I certainly hope we aren't following this strong woman for seven books just so she can get killed so another male character can be sad!" And I could literally see GRRM's face fall. That was back in 2009 and I'm still convinced that he realized then that he had written himself into a corner because female fans were absolutely not going to accept the original end of the story. EDIT: Male fans obviously shouldn't accept it either. I'm more pointing out that he took so long to write it that the fantasy fan base had shifted to hearing women's viewpoints more and thus made his kind of lovely mid-90's male-centric writing tropes a little bit problematic. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I'm actually pretty sure I can pinpoint the exact moment GRRM realized he couldn't finish the books. He was at a convention nerding out with fans of the book series, and they were discussing all the prophesies and poo poo. The topic came up of how the previous "hero of ancient legend" basically made his glowing fire sword by stabbing it through his beloved's chest, which was in line with the whole sacrifice theme of the books. Somebody mentioned that this likely meant that Jon was going to have to kill Dany to win or something. There was this slight twinkle in GRRM's eyes, but before he could respond a female fan spoke up and said something along the lines of, "I certainly hope we aren't following this strong woman for seven books just so she can get killed so another male character can be sad!" And I could literally see GRRM's face fall. lmao at what we got
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Alan Smithee posted:lmao at what we got The way the show ended basically confirmed my original suspicion that Dany was essentially a long-form version of the "dead girlfriend that makes the protagonist sad" since we know the showrunners basically used GRRM's cliffnotes to end the series even when those notes conflicted with the differences the show had from the books.
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Here's an article about DTV action films that's pretty good even though it is sort of undeservedly smug https://www.vulture.com/amp/article/randall-emmett-movies.html Anonymous Zebra posted:
This is also something that 10 years of thinking about it could have fixed but 100% guarantee that is not what he spent the past decade doing with this story. There is still the fact many people will hate whatever he does but he can at least realize the tv show was just a rough draft and it's time to edit like a mofo Tars Tarkas fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Anonymous Zebra posted:The way the show ended basically confirmed my original suspicion that Dany was essentially a long-form version of the "dead girlfriend that makes the protagonist sad" since we know the showrunners basically used GRRM's cliffnotes to end the series even when those notes conflicted with the differences the show had from the books. A bunch of the people who actually read the books could see the Dany twist coming from light years away and yet you still had people naming their kids Khaleesi and poo poo. If GRRM really did see the writing on the wall then I don’t blame him for trying to distance himself from the impending shitshow. There was an RLM episode a while back where they talked about some Giallo knockoff where the twist was incredibly obvious but it was so absurdly dark and stupid that you just assumed they wouldn’t go that far. The moral of this story is “never underestimate mankind’s capacity for stupidity”.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:A bunch of the people who actually read the books could see the Dany twist coming from light years away and yet you still had people naming their kids Khaleesi and poo poo. If GRRM really did see the writing on the wall then I don’t blame him for trying to distance himself from the impending shitshow. Most of the people naming their kid that were people who watched the show, and I would strongly argue that the show Dany was NOT the same character as the book Dany. One is a very intelligent but emotionally stunted teenage sex-abuse survivor with severe trust issues, possible schizophrenia and access to three living nuclear bombs she has only tenuous control over while the other is a full-grown adult sex-abuse survivor who has both intelligence AND empathy, and while making missteps spend most her time surrounding herself with and trusting the advice of a wide variety of advisors. Giving the book ending to the show character is tonal whiplash, and I'm not surprised that the "slay queen!" brigade did not see it coming. I could derail this thread further, but Lindsay Ellis made two excellent videos summing up my thoughts, so go watch a much more elegant person describe why GoT was a loving mess in season 8.
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A Dynasty Warriors movie would just be Romance of the Three Kingdoms, right? Like every game (minus the spin-offs) is just that story?
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Plot point wise yeah, but it's a completely different narrative style. Think of the difference between 300 and a history channel reenactment of Thermopylae.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don't recall seeing it mentioned previously, but Netflix just paid $450 million to get exclusive rights to Knives Out 2 and 3, which is the first I've heard about sequels
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Knives Out was a funny murder mystery, but I wouldn’t call it light-hearted the same way as Colombo or Murder She Wrote.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don't recall seeing it mentioned previously, but Netflix just paid $450 million to get exclusive rights to Knives Out 2 and 3, which is the first I've heard about sequels I wonder if they tried to get a series and the actors (or actor) was not interested. Disney's model of serializing everything they can makes the most sense to me from a streaming perspective, and it probably costs a lot less. Then again, Netflix still releases every episode at once, which Disney and Amazon have proven you don't have to do and you will get away with it.
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Disney delayed Death on the Nile again but sources say they can't recast Armie Hammer so the actual release is still up in the air. https://twitter.com/variety/status/1376885841117769730?s=21 https://twitter.com/theavclub/status/1377042472950374400?s=21
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Vegetable posted:I’m surprised they don’t just make a TV series out of it. A light-hearted whodunnit sounds like it’d be good for serialization. Hopefully Rian Johnson goes with the idea of Daniel Craig adopting an entirely different but still outlandish accent for each movie.
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Zero One posted:Disney delayed Death on the Nile again but sources say they can't recast Armie Hammer so the actual release is still up in the air. That's one hell of a tax write-off
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