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Lurdiak posted:If I say this on social media a bunch of people concern troll about how I'm discouraging people from learning tools or using references, so I'll say it here: Destroy All Tracers Forever. Nothing kills a book for me like that garbage. yeah a don't think a lot of people are going to argue about that here, especially in this thread. e: what a shameful snype the brilliant FROM HELL: Sometimes I'll say "that's some ugly art" but that isn't necessarily bad - the art in From Hell is often very ugly but it's about ugly people, in an ugly place, doing very ugly things, so it's completely appropriate. Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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and that first page is hands down the best-looking page in the entire series
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Larocca on a book is an immediate skip for me. There are two other artists I will skip 100% of the time, Greg Land and Brett Booth.
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greg horn should definitely be on that list because he sucks tremendously hard not because it's cheesecake - god knows I love me some cheesecake - but it's just a bunch of paintovers of stock photos with him ugh Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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larocca is on another level imo because not only does he trace but then he actively tries to make it look as lovely as possible
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What's sad is that Larroca can draw, as a lot of the tracers are able to, but for some reason he doesn't. I really liked his work on Cable and X-Force several years back. Now it might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's not the gross monstrosities posted on the previous page.
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X-O posted:What's sad is that Larroca can draw, as a lot of the tracers are able to, but for some reason he doesn't. I really liked his work on Cable and X-Force several years back. Now it might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's not the gross monstrosities posted on the previous page. Some of his stuff on Cable & X-Force was decent but a lot of it was weirdly traced
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I don't even mind tracing or using some kind of software as long as it looks ok. For instance when Kyle Baker was doing art with 3D software it looked like rear end but Mikel Janin's stuff is mostly inoffensive to me. And Deodato's varies wildly in quality at times looking like straight trash and other times being fine.
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speaking of Digital Style, y'all remember Fallen Angels (2019)? lowkey reminded me of lollipop chainsaw/nmh/cel-shaded videogames e: god/radium hates me look it up urself sliami fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Fallen Angels looked wicked awful dude
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I can at least understand the tortured anatomy of the classic boobs and rear end pose but this I don't get. This is way worse. She's choking the life out of her captor but she's giving the viewer bedroom eyes? Like c'mon, what the gently caress, honestly.
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speaking of tracers who otherwise do good art IDW Sonic the Hedgehog Annual 2020 (pencils by Lamar Wells, inks/colors by Bracardi Curry) compare to: IDW Sonic the Hedgehog #19 (lineart by Jack Lawrence, colors by Bracardi Curry) IDW Sonic the Hedgehog #21 (pencils by Lamar Wells, inks by Reggie Graham, colors by Heather Breckel) Archie Sonic the Hedgehog #230 (pencils by Ben Bates, inks by Terry Austin, colors by Matt Herms) I think the artist legit got in hot water for this, because he was a semi regular cover artist before the annual (being a carry over from Archie) but hasn't shown up since
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Lobok posted:I can at least understand the tortured anatomy of the classic boobs and rear end pose but this greg horn is really gross, hth
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:I think the artist legit got in hot water for this, because he was a semi regular cover artist before the annual (being a carry over from Archie) but hasn't shown up since Not knowing much about Sonic and just looking at the art posted, unless there's further swiping later in the comic, it seems like a deliberate choice to have all of the "portals" the evil duck lady is opening to be looking into other stories involving her boss's evil plans. Specifically recreating panels from previously published comics about said "evil plans" feels more like a deliberate and overt choice (that a lot of artists seem to like to do lately) than a 'swipe'. I also know nothing about Sonic the Hedgehog comics, modern or otherwise, so I have no idea if any of the characters/scenarios are supposed to be memorable, or in fact causes by Dr. Robotnik.
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Alaois posted:Fallen Angels looked wicked awful dude Yeah... I'm glad Peach Momoko has an X-book w/Psylocke now because Fallen Angels made me sad
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:speaking of tracers who otherwise do good art but why is the duck goth
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Edge & Christian posted:Looking this up, he did six covers (a couple of them variant covers) for IDW/Sonic between September 2018 and March 2020 prior to this annual story. It's not like long gaps between him doing a cover seems that unusual. Is there any story to him being blackballed or 'in hot water'? I think what would've gotten him in hot water was specifically the lifting from Archie: the other instances of lifting (especially of his own art) were probably alright. It is speculation from my part, but his longest gap in appearances prior to the annual was between doing interior fill ins for the September 2019 issue and the March 2020 cover (so half a year) but now it's been a year since the Annual would've come out if it weren't for Covid and we have solicits for stuff coming out a year after the Annual did end up coming out, and there's still no sign of him.
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X-O posted:What's sad is that Larroca can draw, as a lot of the tracers are able to, but for some reason he doesn't. I really liked his work on Cable and X-Force several years back. Now it might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's not the gross monstrosities posted on the previous page. His X-Treme X-Men stuff was good, I thought. Like sure it's a little cheesecakey, but it's solid superhero art. Like I don't get how he's worse now than he was then.
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Codependent Poster posted:Like I don't get how he's worse now than he was then. Some artists don’t evolve, they degenerate. For example, at the risk of opening Pandora’s box, Ken Penders.
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Codependent Poster posted:His X-Treme X-Men stuff was good, I thought. Like sure it's a little cheesecakey, but it's solid superhero art. issues on xxmen: -bad group shot planning -challenging transition from trad to digital. see also plasticky rendering* -not using a black line for some reason -also not blocking out foreground/mid/bg values for some reason* *the colorist is also responsible issues on aliens: -poor scene blocking -lackluster panels -overreliance on stiff portraiture instead of less faithful but more dynamic stylization sliami fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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there's still skill there but the lack of careful planning hampers it... Many such cases
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Chinston Wurchill posted:The art in the new Marvel Alien book is...not so good. Salvador Larroca on ink, Guru eFX on colours. also he broke the 180 rule lol
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Codependent Poster posted:His X-Treme X-Men stuff was good, I thought. Like sure it's a little cheesecakey, but it's solid superhero art. he realized he gets paid the same no matter whether he does work or phones it in
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thetoughestbean posted:Some artists don’t evolve, they degenerate. For example, at the risk of opening Pandora’s box, Ken Penders. A better example is Steve Dillon. I'm old enough and UKian enough to remember when Dillon started out in 2000AD. He was chosen to fill in for Brian Bolland when Bolland couldn't meet his deadline for Block Mania part 7, and it's easy to see why he was chosen - his style was similar to Bolland's, but less exacting and hence faster to produce. (In fact, Block Mania was Bolland's last serialised work for 2000AD.) Now Dillon was never a bad artist, but by the time of his death he'd essentially reverted to the point he was at when he started out.
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site posted:he realized he gets paid the same no matter whether he does work or phones it in may we all be so fortunate
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Flesh Forge posted:greg horn should definitely be on that list because he sucks tremendously hard Added. That is just gross. Does this guy still get actual comics work or does he just do these nasty pinups?
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Joe Fisto posted:Does this guy still get actual comics work or does he just do these nasty pinups? 2002: A 12 page Elektra story with Greg Rucka 2004: Six pages of an artist jam issue of Bendis/Maleev Daredevil 2009: Five pages in Dark Avengers #11 and three pages in Dark Avengers #12 representing a nightmare/hell world the Molecule Man sticks Norman Osborn in. Then one additional page of New Avengers #50 (another artist jam issue) He stopped getting regular cover work around ten years ago, but he's still 'drawing' a lot of covers; they're just all mostly softcore "retailer exclusive" variants which means he's getting commissioned either by the comic shops (or more likely himself) so that he can sell the covers/comics on his website.
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sliami posted:issues on xxmen: For these issues, they didn't ink Larocca and just had the colors over his pencils. I kind of like the look, where it's between a sketch and finished product. It was probably challenging to color, so I'd also give them some slack.
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sliami posted:also he broke the 180 rule lol I think in this instance it's okay. The points where he crosses the axis, it's to retain clarity. It's flipped in panel 1 to avoid making that top portion feel static. Lower down, the axis is crossed to maintain a consistent layout. There were better ways to stage this, especially at the top of the page, but violating the 180 rule here avoids confusion rather than causing it.
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What does the term cheesecakey mean?
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obi_ant posted:What does the term cheesecakey mean? Female version of beefcake. It’s intentionally drawing women with big boobs/butts in sexy poses
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I'm pretty sure I could fit my finger inside the vein on Bishop's arm Alhazred fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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what's up with that glorious cover art being defaced with that poo poo rear end artless title
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Alhazred posted:I'm pretty sure I could fit my finger inside the vein on Bishop's arm He's trying not to yell at Jean for stepping on his foot.
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Rogue is thinking that Bishop should be wearing a belly shirt too, while Sage is saying "Eyes up here, swamp canary. And how is your right hand attached to your left arm like that?" And Bishop is demonstrating the future technique of hoverhanding Jeans's rear end. Ygolonac fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Storm is clearly checking out Jean's boobs. Also, Storm is the only woman there who's boobs are smaller than her head.
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I am BIshop's tastefully smooth Ken Doll groin
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The more I look at Rogue's body pose the more I'm struggling with making sense of it. Some more Thorgal covers: Kinda https://imgur.com/0AFIJkV Alhazred fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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There's a lower leg between Rogue's feet that I'm not sure belongs to anyone.
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Is Thorgal as pretty in the interiors? Also, continuing the rag on that X-Men cover, the skin-tight waders look never made sense to me.
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