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wilfredmerriweathr posted:It's pretty amazing, just by skiing or riding here regularly your skills increase immensely, and there are always people going bigger and pushing harder. The vibes amongst most of the regulars in LCC are incredible, even when you don't know the other people it's always such a cool place to recreate. Thanks, we were trying! Gotta get while the getting is good. Even so, we're absolutely going to have to come back. The immediate access to steep terrain is just incredible. We managed to tick off a couple of the big hitters in the Chuting Gallery and got lucky on a number of days of inbounds skiing, but now there's all kinds of lines calling out that felt insane a month ago. This is probably not good for my long-term health and wellbeing. All that said, I can't imagine riding that terrain on a bike. Props to the crew, hope they got their sponsorship out of it lol.
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spwrozek posted:Yeah I read that a few weeks ago. I have to take a big grain of salt with anything from wild snow/CCB in relation to race gear, skinny skis in general. They are kind of anti split board imo and push that everyone should be on 75-85 mm skis because they are so much better (lighter) on the uphill. Very true but don't poo poo on people who like or ride heavy setups. Nothing wrong with being more about the down than the up. I get a little salty about it. Yeah they're big ol weight weenies and it gets stupid. Like, if I want to do the Grand Traverse or Power of Four, absolutely. But for getting after good lines in the backcountry? I'm going to take 10 extra minutes on the climb and not hate myself, life, and everything in the descent.
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Whistler is closed for the season and the comments are endless entitled bitching about not getting to use the rest of their season passes
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Mar 31, 2021 02:08
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Fifty Three posted:Whistler is closed for the season and the comments are endless entitled bitching about not getting to use the rest of their season passes Yeah, because loving morons couldn’t stay home during a pandemic and just HAD to go to apres and then have dinner before going back to Vancouver, or worse, travel from Quebec and Ontario during a pandemic. And now those of us who actually live here have been both overrun by covid from idiot tourists AND don’t get to spend the rest of our season skiing. After we had the Christmas outbreak there was a huge call to stop people from coming from out of province, but no, the provincial government needed to get that spring break money in before shutting down the entire town.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:46
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Was it the government who closed Whistler or was it Vail who decided to do that? How long is the typical season there? I would imagine at least through April.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Was it the government who closed Whistler or was it Vail who decided to do that? How long is the typical season there? I would imagine at least through April. The government ordered it closed for three weeks, they decided to call that the whole season. It's normally open until the May long weekend here at least, sometimes into June if there's enough snow.
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HookShot posted:Yeah, because loving morons couldn’t stay home during a pandemic and just HAD to go to apres and then have dinner before going back to Vancouver, or worse, travel from Quebec and Ontario during a pandemic. And now those of us who actually live here have been both overrun by covid from idiot tourists AND don’t get to spend the rest of our season skiing. I see you didn’t discover level orange extreme. Unfortunate.
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Mar 31, 2021 05:37
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Moot .1415926535 posted:I see you didn’t discover level orange extreme. Unfortunate. Very Danger Level Orange+ My favorite anime, actually
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Mar 31, 2021 05:40
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HookShot posted:Yeah, because loving morons couldn’t stay home during a pandemic and just HAD to go to apres and then have dinner before going back to Vancouver, or worse, travel from Quebec and Ontario during a pandemic. And now those of us who actually live here have been both overrun by covid from idiot tourists AND don’t get to spend the rest of our season skiing. E; I deleted my post, I have a place in Whistler (I’m there as I write this, my family bought it in 1967 but I don’t live here full time so, guess I’m not a local), and I think this is an oversimplification of a frustrating situation. I’m hugely frustrated by the closure and also by the behavior I’ve seen by many groups in the village this year, including staff and locals. It’s sad. It’s also a bit xenophobic to blame the dirty other, that’s not what really happened, but there’s other resolutions that could have been less drastic. The apres and group issues I saw were not restricted to tourists, like at all. But you’re right that shouldn’t have been an option. Dining, drinking, and the Whistler vibe should not have been an option this year. I’m sorry your community is paying for that. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Eejit posted:Yeah they're big ol weight weenies and it gets stupid. Like, if I want to do the Grand Traverse or Power of Four, absolutely. But for getting after good lines in the backcountry? I'm going to take 10 extra minutes on the climb and not hate myself, life, and everything in the descent. That writer on Wildsnow outright said the race skis are dangerous in tricky snow and then immediately follows up saying he'll post updates after more backcountry trips on that setup. Pretty weird IMO. The big races here are pretty tough and for sure are in the backcountry (check the Mezzalama and how bad the pro skiers are doing downhill https://youtu.be/Rp6E6xfdPtg) but that's totally different from being out there with your buddy. Even if he wants to go super lightweight there are surely better options than a 65mm ski. In other news I now have a set of these in carbon on the way to use with the Hojis and try and find a balance between up and downhill. https://moonlightmountaingear.com/collections/skiing/products/mission-skis?variant=32400250077235
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Mar 31, 2021 10:08
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HookShot posted:The government ordered it closed for three weeks, they decided to call that the whole season. It's normally open until the May long weekend here at least, sometimes into June if there's enough snow. Can you tour in the resort or is that verboten?
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Mar 31, 2021 10:12
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squirrelzipper posted:E; While I get this, keep in mind those of us who do live here have spent this entire ski season seeing absolutely nothing but thousands of people every single day travelling here from other places, hanging out and sharing hotel rooms with people who aren’t from their households, refusing to wear masks, and listening to them talk about how there’s a “Whistler bubble” and they’re safe here so they don’t have to be careful. Yes, there were some very stupid decisions made by locals. But it starts with people bringing the virus to our community from elsewhere. It is not a coincidence that our two enormous outbreaks were immediately after Christmas and immediately after spring break in Quebec ended. It’s been a super frustrating year for locals in general—we very much feel like we’ve been thrown under the bus by the provincial government in the name of tourist dollars—and forcing the mountain to close instead of taking literally any other steps they could take is a huge punch in the gut. Keep in mind that at this point something like 12% of the entire town has been infected in 2021 ALONE because they decided they needed that sweet, sweet spring break money.
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Mar 31, 2021 14:49
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knox_harrington posted:Can you tour in the resort or is that verboten? Nope, it’s all closed off. Moot .1415926535 posted:I see you didn’t discover level orange extreme. Unfortunate. FWIW I think the mountain probably should be shut down, but I’m very disappointed that the government did literally nothing to try and stop that from happening first. Like, for gently caress’s sake there is literally one road in and out. It’s the easiest place ever to put a checkpoint to make sure people from Vancouver Coastal Health are coming up and nowhere else. HookShot fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 14:49
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Orange extreme was the level of lockdown they made up between orange and red here so they didn’t have to totally shut down. One end of the county is basically unpopulated desert while the other is a ski resort that was having a bad case spike, so they got creative with the averages. They probably should’ve shut down but, as you said, tourist dollars.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:19
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Really hoping the Whistler restrictions don’t result in everyone who was planning a spring trip to come to Banff instead but it may happen. Town is already nuts on weekends, like no room at all to distance on sidewalks because it’s wall to wall and huge lines waiting for restaurants. Be a cold day in hell before the Alberta’s government closes resorts again though.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:43
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Moot .1415926535 posted:Orange extreme was the level of lockdown they made up between orange and red here so they didn’t have to totally shut down. One end of the county is basically unpopulated desert while the other is a ski resort that was having a bad case spike, so they got creative with the averages. They probably should’ve shut down but, as you said, tourist dollars. WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:Really hoping the Whistler restrictions don’t result in everyone who was planning a spring trip to come to Banff instead but it may happen. Town is already nuts on weekends, like no room at all to distance on sidewalks because it’s wall to wall and huge lines waiting for restaurants.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:57
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Genuine question, and one I shouldn't have to ask because in a sane world our respective governments would be supporting us during a lockdown anyway, but- could a place like Whistler survive with just locals during a season? I have a hard time believing that lift-served skiing is a safe activity at all regardless of the travel it takes to get to a hill, but maybe that's just my psyche cracking from Week 55.
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Mar 31, 2021 16:03
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I feel like lift served skiing is very safe. Not only are you wearing masks but most people wear goggles as well, along with gloves. So in addition to being more bundled up and covered than you would be in most other situations there is a fair amount of wind and unless there is a line you are pretty well spaced out. Some resorts have been a lot better than others about creating a safe environment though, at least in regards to mask requirements and enforcement.
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Mar 31, 2021 16:07
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Lines aside I’ve felt the skiing is actually pretty safe yeah. If everyone just came to ski and the went home we probably wouldn’t have a problem but like others pointed out you have to go to apres and shopping downtown too. Then there’s all the poor staff living in communal housing where as soon as anyone is infected it spreads like wildfire.
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Mar 31, 2021 16:20
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HookShot posted:While I get this, keep in mind those of us who do live here have spent this entire ski season seeing absolutely nothing but thousands of people every single day travelling here from other places, hanging out and sharing hotel rooms with people who aren’t from their households, refusing to wear masks, and listening to them talk about how there’s a “Whistler bubble” and they’re safe here so they don’t have to be careful. Oh yeah it’s been handled incredibly poorly. Super frustrating that this is the end result.
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https://globalnews.ca/news/7730365/covid-19-revelstoke-mountain-resort-closure/ Revelstoke shut too. I'm in danger.
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Fifty Three posted:Genuine question, and one I shouldn't have to ask because in a sane world our respective governments would be supporting us during a lockdown anyway, but- could a place like Whistler survive with just locals during a season? I have a hard time believing that lift-served skiing is a safe activity at all regardless of the travel it takes to get to a hill, but maybe that's just my psyche cracking from Week 55. If you include Vancouverites, it becomes more feasible. In 2008, when tourism from the USA completely cratered, people from Vancouver rallied and a ton of people bought passes to help support the mountain, which basically helped keep them going through that particular rough patch. The thing is, it's actually very safe to ski even coming from the city, if all you're doing is skiing. That's what our health officer said. Drive to the mountain, do your skiing, drive home. The problem is, people were driving to the mountain, doing their skiing, making a reservation in the lodge for lunch, then coming down in the valley at three and going "well apres is an essential part of skiing, better have that beer" and going to a bar for an hour, then thinking "well it's dinner time now" and going to a different restaurant for dinner, and then driving back to the city. And that doesn't even include destination guests. According to the tourism board hotels have been seeing 15% of the regular number of destination guests this year. That's still literally thousands of people a week. It's 1.5k instead of 20k, sure, but that's still over a thousand people a week who have travelled long distances, often across the country, to get to Whistler to enjoy their holiday. And all of them are going out regularly to restaurants, etc. At Christmas and spring break the village was PACKED with people. Completely packed. squirrelzipper posted:Oh yeah it’s been handled incredibly poorly. Super frustrating that this is the end result. Hell, even if they'd forced a shorter shutdown over spring break it would have been a lot better, because then there wouldn't have been the second giant outbreak. But hey, gotta get that sweet, sweet tourism money and then blame locals who live in cramped staff housing for "having parties" and opposed to "living on top of each other because this town is stupidly expensive"
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:Lines aside I’ve felt the skiing is actually pretty safe yeah. If everyone just came to ski and the went home we probably wouldn’t have a problem but like others pointed out you have to go to apres and shopping downtown too. RE: locals, yeah, that's sort of what I was trying to clarify. Are Vancouverites locals or tourists when referring to "prevent tourists from bringing Covid in," etc. Anywhere outside of Whistler is going to be infected, but >0 places outside of Whistler are required to keep it afloat. Tough situation.
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Fifty Three posted:The lines are why I specified lift-served, that's my primary concern. Totally agree that once you're on snow it's probably relatively safe, but I'm not sure I agree that lines are safe. Dr. Henry (our doc in charge) said that it's fine for people to drive up to ski, do their skiing, then head home. And on the mountains, actions generally WERE safe. People were maintaining 6 feet distance in lines (more or less), they had staff standing around and telling people to leave space or put their masks up if they weren't doing it, that sort of thing. I think the mountain did do as good a job as they could have to keep people safe, and I'm not usually the kind to say nice things about VR lol. Outdoor transmission with masks has been proven to be incredibly low (there were no superspreader outbreaks linked to the BLM protests for example, and there were a lot of people masked and standing way closer than 6 feet to each other for long periods of time there), so actual skiing isn't the biggest risk. But people just couldn't stick to JUST skiing, and it ruined the season. Basically, for the purposes of your question, I consider someone who drove up, skied, and left to be "local". I consider someone who went into the lodge for lunch, had apres at Tapleys, then dinner at Creekbread or whatever to be a tourist. They did touristy things when they were up here beyond coming up to exercise.
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At least it sounds like you had less crowds than usual while things were open. I think COVID actually drove more people to Truckee/Squaw than a normal season, at least mid-week, which was awful. Not meaning to rub it in, I'm glad we're well into spring now and I can ride out April and May with no crowds finally.
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Fifty Three posted:The lines are why I specified lift-served, that's my primary concern. Totally agree that once you're on snow it's probably relatively safe, but I'm not sure I agree that lines are safe. Lines on weekdays have generally not been too bad other than powder days. In lift lines as long as they're short people are spacing out.
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It was super crowded on weekends and through the Christmas season, the booking system was fully loaded. And while spring break was quiet compared to most years, it was packed in the village. But overall, yeah, it wasn't crowded at all this year compared to most. Basically any weekday outside holidays if there wasn't any fresh snow you could walk right onto the lift, and I don't think I waited more than five minutes for a chair all season. But I also didn't ski a single weekend or holiday day. Spring skiing is hands down my favourite time of year and I'm super bummed that for the second year in a row now I'm not going to get to do it.
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Hitting Breck with some friends on Saturday morning. Crowd size is gonna be a crap shoot... On the one hand, MOST schools' spring breaks are over, but it's also Easter weekend. Thankfully we've all had at least one dose of the vax (actually I think I'm the only one who isn't fully vaxxed). Still planning on masking and since there's 4 of us, no one can hop on the lift with us last second. Also, I just got some Anon M2 goggles with a magnetic neck gaiter/mask and it's fuckin sweet!
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No matter how dumb it looks I wore a KN95 mask while snowboarding and working ski racing all winter. I was by far in the minority as everyone else used cloth masks and neck gaiters but somehow Mountain Creek did enforce masks (and distancing to a lesser extent) and came out unscathed. Unlike Hunter we never had an outbreak or had to shut. It helped that we're in no way a destination resort although as the closest resort to NYC we had to deal with people from the city all winter.
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HookShot posted:It was super crowded on weekends and through the Christmas season, the booking system was fully loaded. And while spring break was quiet compared to most years, it was packed in the village. Same, we did 10 days, not a single weekend or holiday period and it was deserted. Used our last edge day on Monday, was planning on going up yesterday and today but uh, we’re walking the dogs around the lake instead.
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How stable is the snowpack in the Whistler backcountry right now? I know with spring rolling through things will settle in, but this feels like a good way to overcrowd the backcountry, though I suppose it's loving vast.
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highme posted:How stable is the snowpack in the Whistler backcountry right now? I know with spring rolling through things will settle in, but this feels like a good way to overcrowd the backcountry, though I suppose it's loving vast. It's pretty stable right now. There is tons of space out there, but there are also morons. I'm expecting S&R will have a busier time than usual this spring.
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So looks like Ikon isn't doing anything to respond to Epic, right?
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Residency Evil posted:So looks like Ikon isn't doing anything to respond to Epic, right? I would not expect them to do anything at this point.
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Question to the racers/ex-racers like Hookshot and Steve French but are dryland summer camps worth it? The kids have teammates going to some week long dryland summer camps for racers but we have LAX and field hockey camps to consider as well. Did any of you do dryland camps? Also for summer non-dryland camps I've heard Hood is insanely crowded in summer. How is it these days?
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ironlung posted:Correct, you should have about 7mm difference between stated width and brake width before you need to bend and even if you do it's nbd Thanks for posting this, I ended up at 40% off.
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Yuns posted:Question to the racers/ex-racers like Hookshot and Steve French but are dryland summer camps worth it? The kids have teammates going to some week long dryland summer camps for racers but we have LAX and field hockey camps to consider as well. Did any of you do dryland camps? I've never done dryland camps. Honestly, if you're thinking your kids are eventually going to make WC it might be worth it just to get them used to the higher-level intensity workouts they'll be doing when they get to that point, but if not then I mean, if it works for the schedule and they want to do it, go for it. I imagine at their age it'll mostly just be mountain biking and games anyway. But I wouldn't worry if you can't do it. Hood is always crowded because it's the only place in America where you can train in the summer, yeah. But it's fine. Summer ski camps are a really fun experience and I wouldn't skip it because you're worried about crowds (beside covid worries, of course). You're going to have crowds everywhere where there's skiing between May and November.
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Looks like I’m going Epic for the first time. So long for now, Winter Park. It’s been a solid 30ish years.
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Yuns posted:Question to the racers/ex-racers like Hookshot and Steve French but are dryland summer camps worth it? The kids have teammates going to some week long dryland summer camps for racers but we have LAX and field hockey camps to consider as well. Did any of you do dryland camps? I've been up on midweek days when both ski racers & freestyle camps are going full speed and never really experienced what I'd call "crowding". Regardless your kids will be relegated to whichever lane on Palmer their camp gets to use for training, essentially 3-4 cats wide. The racers tend to load at the midway station and only lap the top half for their training (and are usually on their way in to watch film when the snow starts to soften up to the point the rest of us enjoy it). I would suggest if you're going to do it, send them to a session as early as possible so they can still ski all the way down to the lodge.
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Annual alta/bird patrol april fools shenanigans:  Apparently that monolith is cemented in, that's on high rustler at alta
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