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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Any tips on dealing with the poison satyrs and rats in the final area? They make me want to tear my loving hair out. For as good as this game is overall it's plagued by some astonishingly irritating design decisions and enemy encounters that definitely get overshadowed by how good the presentation is. Just had a 10 win streak ruined, wiped out all my death defiances, all because these stupid loving poison dudes. So incredibly unfun to fight. Don't be afraid to hit pause and figure out where the healing pool is on any given room in Styx. Poseidon abilities do generally wreck that zone as well (dash and cast, and all the supporting boons on knockback and such) Patroclus' keepsake is good in Styx - poison will immediately trigger the shield before it even hits you once, giving you a second and a half to dash to the fountain. It's pretty good for the boss fight imo, if you get tagged by one hit of a combo you won't get hit by the next, and the lasers won't tick rapidly on you. Acorn or Lucky Tooth might be obvious picks, but I really think the Broken Spearpoint has better value overall
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I generally hate specific enemies moreso than specific regions, though Elysium does seem to have the gamut of enemies that seem particularly bullshit. Every time I see the shield soldiers pop up I just let out an involuntary sigh.
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Mar 29, 2021 23:52
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Any tips on dealing with the poison satyrs and rats in the final area? They make me want to tear my loving hair out. For as good as this game is overall it's plagued by some astonishingly irritating design decisions and enemy encounters that definitely get overshadowed by how good the presentation is. Just had a 10 win streak ruined, wiped out all my death defiances, all because these stupid loving poison dudes. So incredibly unfun to fight. They always take exactly the same amount of time to charge up and fire their shot. Next time you find yourself in a room with just one of the satyrs, practice listening to the sound cue and dodging right as they fire. Once you get used to the timing, you can start dodging their shots while you deal with the more pressing enemies. As soon as you enter a room, take note of where the poison cure pools are. Always keep in mind where the nearest one is, and as soon as you get poisoned, beeline over to it. The satyr’s charge-up can be interrupted by any knockback. The general strategy for dealing with them is to fire on them until they’re about to shoot, dodge the shot, go back to firing, repeat until they run out of armor, then just attack them until they die. Once their armor is gone it’s trivial to keep them from getting a shot out. Unless of course you’re using the rail, in which case you have to keep dancing around them. Satyr shots can’t go through obstacles like pillars, corners, and so on, so if you keep a satyr on the other side of one of those you don’t have to worry about it and can deal with whatever else is in the room.
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Mar 29, 2021 23:54
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I'm not a fan of Styx. I hate that I finally achieve my most powerful state and I only get to use it on a few small rooms that are cleared in literal seconds and one boss.
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Mar 29, 2021 23:55
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Any tips on dealing with the poison satyrs and rats in the final area? They make me want to tear my loving hair out. For as good as this game is overall it's plagued by some astonishingly irritating design decisions and enemy encounters that definitely get overshadowed by how good the presentation is. Just had a 10 win streak ruined, wiped out all my death defiances, all because these stupid loving poison dudes. So incredibly unfun to fight. Dunno I just brute force it with god mode. So I guess that's my suggestion
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Mar 29, 2021 23:58
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BrianWilly posted:I generally hate specific enemies moreso than specific regions, though Elysium does seem to have the gamut of enemies that seem particularly bullshit. Every time I see the shield soldiers pop up I just let out an involuntary sigh. The universal truth of every video game ever made is that shield enemies are bullshit.
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SuperKlaus posted:The universal truth of every video game ever made is that shield enemies are bullshit. Forced overtime 2 Elysium archers are the worst mob in the game.
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Mar 30, 2021 01:07
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Ugh, just completely botched a run because I kept burning my rolling stones to try and get athena dash, completely forgetting that I had taken the Artemis dash-strike (I was doing the other dash mirror upgrade for damage + dodge). Wasted so much time and boon choices lol. My least favorite area is asphodel by far. I hate having to dodge the lava, the lava shots and chase down all the enemies that jump around or the Gorgon heads and witches flying over the lava at the edge of the room.
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I got my second clear, with Nemesis sword, Artemis/Dionysus duo, Dionysus attacks, and dad hammer and Chaos giving 300% backstab damage between them for a build that visually was just whacking away with the sword but had some impolite DPS. I want to know about boon math now. Do all % damage boons simply plop into the same multiplier? For example, when Aphrodite gives me 40% attack damage and Chaos gives me 110% backstab attack damage, do they lump together for 150%? Edit oh yeah and I've been hoarding coins every run for the diamond or blood at the end so when my other dad hammer was 5% of coins add to damage 
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JamMasterJim posted:Forced overtime 2 Elysium archers are the worst mob in the game. SuperKlaus posted:I want to know about boon math now. Do all % damage boons simply plop into the same multiplier? For example, when Aphrodite gives me 40% attack damage and Chaos gives me 110% backstab attack damage, do they lump together for 150%? Crit modifiers are a separate multiplier, so if you get a big chunky Chaos bonus to an ability, the corresponding Artemis boon is significantly more valuable.
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Got my first 32 heat! Went for the trusty combination of Zag fists and Lambent Plume, and ultimately the run went rather well except the final fight (I went in with almost full health and 3DD, ended with some 20 health and no DD), I really need to get better at that fight. Still, got all the statues, 49/49 achievements, so I guess now it's time to grind up the darkness and do 32 heat runs with the other weapons/aspects  Also the game is great and Cerberus is the best boy. 
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Mar 30, 2021 22:02
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That's kind of too bad if say Distant Memory for +damage against far foes is lumped in and diluted with my backstab damage and Athena special bonus or whatever. I saw like three new duos last run, but only got fun olympian banter for the first one. Will I get the fun banter next time the opportunity arises? Also wow titan blood from fish!
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I was having a bastard of a time clearing the game with the shield to get that sweet, sweet bounty of titan bloods, but Aspect of Chaos absolutely wrecked poo poo. I'm old and bad at games, so even the bare minimum is an accomplishment, but that might be the only time I've beat the game yet without using a death defiance. This game is extremely fun and I'm sad I'm almost done with the epilogue. For once, I want DLC.
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This build was going great until Hades went "u fool this isn't even my final form" and I didn't realize you aren't supposed to punch the green urns.  Just an absolutely stupid amount of DPS and debuff that got me out of Elysium for the first time.
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Shumagorath posted:This build was going great until Hades went "u fool this isn't even my final form" and I didn't realize you aren't supposed to punch the green urns. You're only kinda not supposed to break them. You should probably get rid of them from a safe distance if possible.
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Post Ironic Cereal posted:I was having a bastard of a time clearing the game with the shield to get that sweet, sweet bounty of titan bloods, but Aspect of Chaos absolutely wrecked poo poo. I'm old and bad at games, so even the bare minimum is an accomplishment, but that might be the only time I've beat the game yet without using a death defiance. Hell yeah bud, Chaos Shield rules. I haven't even bothered with the other Shield Aspects, that one might be my favorite weapon in the whole game.
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SuperKlaus posted:That's kind of too bad if say Distant Memory for +damage against far foes is lumped in and diluted with my backstab damage and Athena special bonus or whatever. You get banter the first time you see a duo, ever. I think maybe buying it in a shop might bypass it? But Aphrodite isn't going to keep telling Athena she needs a glow up.
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C-Euro posted:Hell yeah bud, Chaos Shield rules. I haven't even bothered with the other Shield Aspects, that one might be my favorite weapon in the whole game. Beowulf is pretty fun too. The charge is super wide and bonking someone with your beefy shield is really satisfying.
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Glazius posted:You get banter the first time you see a duo, ever. I think maybe buying it in a shop might bypass it? But Aphrodite isn't going to keep telling Athena she needs a glow up.
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Mendrian posted:You're only kinda not supposed to break them. You should probably get rid of them from a safe distance if possible.
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Slowpoke! posted:Beowulf is pretty fun too. The charge is super wide and bonking someone with your beefy shield is really satisfying. I haven't unlocked Beowulf yet  I did get Chaos commenting on my Shield last run though, so hopefully I'll unlock it soon. I need that and the Hidden Rail and I'll have all weapons unlocked.
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I am pleased to report that I encountered one of the duos for which I did not receive dialogue the first time, and received the dialogue. It appears there is some sort of one duo banter per run limit, but it won't tag a banter as heard until you actually hear it, so all the fun dialogue is waiting for me. I'm also on a seven game win streak 
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Shumagorath posted:"Safe distance" was not on the menu for that build  The regen synergized very well with a build based on chilling things and running away, but nailing the Epic Demeter DoT boon in Styx really sealed it. Is run 18 good for a first clear? I think FTL took me more tries on Normal but it's far stingier with carried progress. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 20:23
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Run 19 is pretty speedy, although over an hour is not
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Run 19 is pretty speedy, although over an hour is not
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I didn't start winning until like number 28 so good on you. Try and do the same Demeter special + Chiron bow again, but fish for the thing that makes ten stacks of chill explode to really ice the cake. That's how I won my fourth time.
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Post Ironic Cereal posted:I was having a bastard of a time clearing the game with the shield to get that sweet, sweet bounty of titan bloods, but Aspect of Chaos absolutely wrecked poo poo. I'm old and bad at games, so even the bare minimum is an accomplishment, but that might be the only time I've beat the game yet without using a death defiance. I wonder if they have any plans for DLC? There are a couple of major Olympian gods who aren't in the game outside of short mentions, like Hephaestus, Hera, and Apollo. Apollo is especially an odd exception since he's Artemis's twin brother.
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I was thinking they should cover the biggest clusterfuck of divine infighting: Eris and the golden apple. But that one definitely occurred before Achilles died, since he participated in the resulting war. It could be a prequel, I guess.
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A new DLC area like would be cool... The Mourning Fields?
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Has Supergiant put out DLC for their games before? I don't remember hearing about any, and as much as I'd enjoy more content for this game what we have right now is so well-tuned that I'd worry about adding something that would upset that tuning.
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Honestly, my biggest disappointment is that after you complete the main story you stop being able to visit the cottage. I really wanted a stardew valley esque minigame where you care for the plants while you wait out your death or something. Maybe bring back some nice flowers for the others. Give me that dlc
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Apr 2, 2021 20:43
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I think an infinite mode would be cool. I always want to keep playing when I get an absurd build that easily kills the final boss.
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An infinite loop option where you just keep getting more and more darkness (or gemstones I guess) and the game just randomly imposes more Pact conditions on you for those last few rewards would be pretty neat.
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In real Greek culture did Ares's domain include strategy and tactics in war? I feel like he should have more boons like "take less damage from the front," "deal more from behind," "stack Doom on enemies not near other enemies," and the like to represent maneuvering and morale.
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SuperKlaus posted:In real Greek culture did Ares's domain include strategy and tactics in war? I feel like he should have more boons like "take less damage from the front," "deal more from behind," "stack Doom on enemies not near other enemies," and the like to represent maneuvering and morale. Not sure about actual Greek myth, but I always enjoyed Marvel's take on Ares and how he's depicted as a God of War:  
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Apr 4, 2021 16:45
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Honestly I'm semi-tempted to start a fresh file just so I can hear all the dialogue again.
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SuperKlaus posted:In real Greek culture did Ares's domain include strategy and tactics in war? I feel like he should have more boons like "take less damage from the front," "deal more from behind," "stack Doom on enemies not near other enemies," and the like to represent maneuvering and morale. Not even a little bit. That was Athena's bag. Thanks Wikipedia! posted:In Greek literature, he often represents the physical or violent and untamed aspect of war and is the personification of sheer brutality and bloodlust, in contrast to his sister, the armored Athena, whose functions as a goddess of intelligence include military strategy and generalship.
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Man, Guan Yu can guet hosed. I don't know who thought a good trade off for massively reduced health was slightly better DPS but I think this is one prophecy I'm not gonna bother with.
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Just go all in on the Special tbh, yeah Guan Yu is the only bad weapon in the game but you can just do coward strats since you’re not obligated to beat Hades once you hit the surface.
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C-Euro posted:Has Supergiant put out DLC for their games before? I don't remember hearing about any, and as much as I'd enjoy more content for this game what we have right now is so well-tuned that I'd worry about adding something that would upset that tuning. They did a single $2 pack for Bastion that was another one of those “dream” combat arenas, focused around Rucks’ background. Other than that they’ve said DLC isn’t really their bag. I think Kasavin said in a Reddit AMA that they didn’t design Hades with expansions in mind, and making one would require rethinking the game on both a design and engineering level - but the massive success of the game is making the team think, never say never.
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