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Valeyard posted:what about the figgy concerns though, is that looking good? it's reasonable for the UK I guess no security clearance either, though they do want an experian background check
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Boiled Water posted:just do it, its great the company im interviewing with just now (for a full time role) also have contract positions available, between 500 and 650 a day, they claim that people they have hired recently have been classified as outside IR35 so theres a good chance any new hires would be too, but no guarentee, it just seems so messy if it was 12 month instead of 6 month that would be less scary
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Private Speech posted:it's reasonable for the UK I guess it wasnt experian, but both banks ive worked at here in the UK have also used third party companies to do background checcks, i guess its not that uncommon
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Apr 1, 2021 16:51
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lots of the finance industry has contracts with clients that obligate them to run background checks on employees.
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I spoke with a buddy who works at a place that passed on me and I found to my complete shock the brain teaser problem that I was told by the panel of developers watching and back seating me that it didn't matter if I came to the answer in the time limit actually mattered if I came to the answer in the time limit. This is my shocked face. loving hate interviewing.
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So I had a interview that was described as Systems Design for distributed high volume systems but it was just the classic design a multistory car park system question. How would you make this scalable? I dunno build a bigger loving car park I guess but until 12,000 cars are trying to park every second I don't think we need to worry too much.
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Imagine a futuristic car park with flying cars, design a priority queue with emphasis on scaling, speed, and lack of mid air collisions. goddamn I kinda want to ask that now
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Apr 1, 2021 17:18
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Corla Plankun posted:if the loss of one person meaningfully impacts the business of the company, that person's boss hosed up really badly and it doesn't reflect on the person leaving at all It's gonna be so funny if I leave my current job (as the sole developer in the company) before rewriting all the lovely web applications and they have to find a replacement who has to get up to speed on both Groovy/Grails and Kotlin/Spring with nobody to help show them the ropes.
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Valeyard posted:the company im interviewing with just now (for a full time role) also have contract positions available, between 500 and 650 a day, they claim that people they have hired recently have been classified as outside IR35 so theres a good chance any new hires would be too, but no guarentee, it just seems so messy Not sure how the UK system is set up but in Denmark it's basically a cheat code to double your income.
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Boiled Water posted:Not sure how the UK system is set up but in Denmark it's basically a cheat code to double your income. yeah, it kind of works like that here too. the jist of it is that in ideal circumstances you end up paying corporation tax (20%) rather than most of your income being hit with higher rate tax (40%) but UK government for the last 2 years has been delaying changes to tax law to try and have these kind of contractors be classified as fulltime employees instead (for tax reasons), in 5 days time the new changes come into effect and it pushes the liability to each company to determine whether the contractor is truly an indepedent contractgor (outside scope of IR35 rule changes) or if they are actually closer to a fulltime employee masquarading as a contractgor (inside IR35, and get taxed like a fulltime employee)
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Apr 1, 2021 18:20
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Valeyard posted:yeah, it kind of works like that here too. the jist of it is that in ideal circumstances you end up paying corporation tax (20%) rather than most of your income being hit with higher rate tax (40%) doesn't sound like anyone will actually be re-classified unless the tory government (lol) puts the thumbscrews on them
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https://twitter.com/dreams_of_sloth/status/1377051721655066629 king
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Boiled Water posted:doesn't sound like anyone will actually be re-classified unless the tory government (lol) puts the thumbscrews on them this is most likely the case, the problem is that companies will be on the hook if they decide the wrong classification, so its in their interest to do it properly will be very interesting to see in the next 6 months what happens, our company already cut loose most of our contractors (or offered them perm roles)
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What's the max lead time you've seen sometime needing before they start a new role? I have some commitments in the first week of July that prevent me from leaving my current role, but I don't want to wait until then to start looking. I don't want to cause myself headaches if it's too early to start.
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Apply now and negotiate start date once you get to the offier stage. Everything has a price, including your price to break your commitments.
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in my last job, we hired a guy from another company that was making a bunch of redundancies, i think he signed his contract about 3/4 months before he was actually let go, that was an odd situation though
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three months is nothing. plenty of hires take longer than that when a visa is involved. don't spring "oh i can't start until july" on people as a surprise when they make an offer but otherwise it's not going to be an issue for many companies. it will be an issue for some but it's not like it hurts you to start looking now. at worst they tell you that they want someone who can start sooner and then if june rolls around and you still don't have a job lined up and the position is still open you can re-apply.
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Mantle posted:Apply now and negotiate start date once you get to the offier stage. Everything has a price, including your price to break your commitments. but yeah i would start looking now too
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in my experience it depends on seniority, juniors are expected to start asap but the more senior you are the more you can gently caress around between signing an offer and starting
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my experience has been the opposite. new grads and interns are routinely hired 6 months to a year in advance and no one ever desperately needs a new junior employee.
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if i get to leave my current job anytime soon, i fully intent on asking for a 2 - 4 week break before starting new job (in addition to 1 month notice period)
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got the 100% remote offer ive been searching for 
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Apr 1, 2021 23:36
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barkbell posted:got the 100% remote offer ive been searching for 
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TerminalRaptor posted:What's the max lead time you've seen sometime needing before they start a new role? I have some commitments in the first week of July that prevent me from leaving my current role, but I don't want to wait until then to start looking. I don't want to cause myself headaches if it's too early to start. fwiw, in large parts of europe a three month notice period is common for white collar workers (goes both ways, of course). the law usually allows for agreeing on something else with your employer but more seniority usually means longer notice periods (the logic is that it's harder to replace a more senior employee when they quit). on the flip side though many managers don't like notice periods being excessively long either since motivation and productivity usually drops towards the end.
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Yep, when hiring we assumed 4-5 months. 3 calendar months of notice + whatever was eaten up by the interviewing process itself.
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I've been notified that I am no longer under consideration for a role I applied to for failure to complete the coding assessment in time. I applied to the job Saturday, got the assessment link Wednesday afternoon, and the rejection this morning. I had not even spoken to a recruiter yet. lol
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Steve Jorbs posted:I've been notified that I am no longer under consideration for a role I applied to for failure to complete the coding assessment in time. I applied to the job Saturday, got the assessment link Wednesday afternoon, and the rejection this morning. I had not even spoken to a recruiter yet. lol love when the terrible places filter themselves out without you even having to lift a finger
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barkbell posted:got the 100% remote offer ive been searching for Grats
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PIZZA.BAT posted:love when the terrible places filter themselves out without you even having to lift a finger how do places like this ever hire people
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Steve Jorbs posted:I've been notified that I am no longer under consideration for a role I applied to for failure to complete the coding assessment in time. I applied to the job Saturday, got the assessment link Wednesday afternoon, and the rejection this morning. I had not even spoken to a recruiter yet. lol we use a platform where i work that does this. the timeout is not configurable (or if it is, our recruiters don't know how to change it). you can probably just email them and ask for a new link
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the talent deficit posted:we use a platform where i work that does this. the timeout is not configurable (or if it is, our recruiters don't know how to change it). you can probably just email them and ask for a new link why would he do that
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PIZZA.BAT posted:why would he do that
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the talent deficit posted:we use a platform where i work that does this. the timeout is not configurable (or if it is, our recruiters don't know how to change it). you can probably just email them and ask for a new link As a person who has reviewed >600 resumes in the past 2 years and hired ~11 people (4 computer touchers). One who gives a simple, practical, similar to our real work coding test after a phone interview. gently caress any place that makes you do a coding test before speaking to you. gently caress them so hard. Don't work for them.
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CarForumPoster posted:As a person who has reviewed >600 resumes in the past 2 years and hired ~11 people (4 computer touchers). One who gives a simple, practical, similar to our real work coding test after a phone interview. gently caress any place that makes you do a coding test before speaking to you. gently caress them so hard. Don't work for them.
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cheque_some posted:how do places like this ever hire people i've always assumed that the candidates are as desperate as the company
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raminasi posted:i've always assumed that the candidates are as desperate as the company Also, got another request to take a coding assessment through Codility before speaking to a human: quote:1. There are 4 tasks in the test. You can solve them in any order.
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Valeyard posted:this is most likely the case, the problem is that companies will be on the hook if they decide the wrong classification, so its in their interest to do it properly Deffo go for the contract role if you can, as well as earning more it's just more fun being a contractor. Even if you get designated as being inside IR35, £650 inside is still £143k/year, and a lot of places will bump your rate higher to cover the extra tax (you'd need about ~£720/day to match £650/day outside IR35, fwiw)
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CarForumPoster posted:As a person who has reviewed >600 resumes in the past 2 years and hired ~11 people (4 computer touchers). One who gives a simple, practical, similar to our real work coding test after a phone interview. gently caress any place that makes you do a coding test before speaking to you. gently caress them so hard. Don't work for them. this company im dealing with just now, i done the IKM online horrible multiple choice python test for them without ever speaking to anyone from the company (only external recruiters) and then they flaked out so far TWICE on the interview thqt we had scheduled, and cancelled short notice, one of the times was cancelled 5 minutes into when it was supposed to start, not impressed at all
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Valeyard posted:this company im dealing with just now, i done the IKM online horrible multiple choice python test for them without ever speaking to anyone from the company (only external recruiters) I am sure working at this company will be great and they consider their employees valuable and deserving of respect.
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Not really interviewing cause I just started a new job last month, but an internal recruiter cold contacted me at my personal email. I agreed to take an exploratory call because always be interviewing, and the idiot sends the calendar invite to my work email. How do these people even get jobs? On a related note, I've noticed that my work email addresses have somehow made it into some sort of profile on me. The above idiot cced me at my unlisted current work email, former work email, and unlisted Gmail. I haven't used any of those 3 emails in any public profile so I'm not sure how they all got connected to me.
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