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HashtagGirlboss posted:Libertarianism: Is it better to remain silent and be thought a pedophile, or be technically correct and remove all doubt? lol
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I'm not projecting! You are!
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does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that supposedly the goal was to remove the incentive for a mass shooter to do a mass shooting for the purposes of becoming infamous, which thinking back sounds a lot like an expression of the political powerlessness in the face of mass shootings while also somewhat misdiagnosing what drives people towards becoming mass shooters I distinctly remember this being a thing for a while, even if it didn't happen and the media didn't actually take this "advice" does anyone else? or am I just hallucinating
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Mar 31, 2021 13:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that I remember but cannot think of any specific examples.
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a Loving Dog posted:I remember but cannot think of any specific examples. Yeah, same, and there's a nonzero chance I'm thinking of an episode of Criminal Minds.
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Mar 31, 2021 13:47
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Last helicopter leaving Saigon picture when?
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gradenko_2000 posted:does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that charlie brooker did a thing about it in one of his old newswipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4
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Orange Devil posted:Last helicopter leaving Saigon picture when? it's gonna be an f35 with the pilot hitting the startup buttons and nothing happeneing because the moon is in the seventh house
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Mar 31, 2021 14:05
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gradenko_2000 posted:does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that That's definitely a thing and it comes up almost every time there's a mass shooting - but like you said the problem is that the people advocating for it don't understand why the vast majority of the public kind of rampages we have actually occurs. I mostly see it as people on twitter though.
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Mar 31, 2021 14:06
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Doctor Jeep posted:charlie brooker did a thing about it in one of his old newswipes thank you
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a Loving Dog posted:I remember but cannot think of any specific examples. nz did this with pewdiepie fan
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gradenko_2000 posted:does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that they did this and it’s why mass shootings are down year over year since 2000
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literally the only reason were hearing about shootings again is because the atlanta shooting was a real good test case for blaming all the democratically led countries problems on the abstract concept of racism shootings actually went up over covid they just werent being reported on unluckily for the media none of the subsequent shootings after they decided to report on them again work with this narrative at all which is just making the fact that theyre being weaponized for political purposes really really obvious
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Some Guy TT posted:literally the only reason were hearing about shootings again is because the atlanta shooting was a real good test case for blaming all the democratically led countries problems on the abstract concept of racism shootings actually went up over covid they just werent being reported on You're not wrong that this is why it's going national again but they were being reported on, but not nationally as a trend. It was mostly being reported on as local news trying to create the false impression that shooting are up here as a way to counter-act defund the police. Like where I am they're pushing really hard to bring back the racial profiling team they got rid of last summer based on a lot of hyperlocal focus on the rise in shooting with a "this is problem for us specifically and uniquely" framing rather than a national framing
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Mar 31, 2021 16:05
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zegermans posted:Our government is run by a panel of 9 people, 5 of which were appointed by people who did not receive a plurality of votes, and confirmed by people who represent less than a third of the country. shut the gently caress up zegerm..... oh wait Yeah the US is a failed state and has no room to talk about any country being an authoritarian poo poo hole
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gradenko_2000 posted:does anyone else remember, maybe around 2012-2014 or so, when there was a push to supposedly change the way that media was supposed to cover mass shooters? Something like, don't say the shooter's name, don't show the shooter's face, don't try to humanize them or give them free press, things like that they did that (I remember it more in the late 2000s after VA Tech especially) but A. cable news media and the internet meant that it was a complete non-starter from the get go because everyone would just get the info from whatever source chose to report it anyway; B. it was a massive misdiagnosis of the reasons people are driven to commit mass shootings; C. the shootings kept happening so nobody seriously kept it up
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 Here's Wikipedia-jockey Brown Moses taking shots at probably one of the best, most influential, and most correct journalists of all time. Really isn't taking all this scrutiny of his spook-show very well.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:10
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loving sicko tapdancing on a dead man's grave like that
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Mar 31, 2021 18:18
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“I’m not racist against the Chinese, but...”
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Mar 31, 2021 18:35
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Now for some lighter news: https://twitter.com/JournosPostLs/status/1377046728491290624?s=19
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Some Guy TT posted:shootings actually went up over covid they just werent being reported on wait really?
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Syncopated posted:wait really? Homicides did but mass shootings didn't (for obvious reasons).
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:Now for some lighter news: i was surprised anyone was reporting that as real really explains a lot about modern media
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duz posted:i was surprised anyone was reporting that as real Remember when Volkswagen got caught lying about their cars emission standards? I'm sure they stopped that and no other manufacture does it, so let's cry about an April Fools joke being fake news
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Syncopated posted:wait really? yes really https://www.massshootingtracker.site/data/?year=2020 https://www.massshootingtracker.site/data/?year=2019
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i just made a nice graph about it
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Groovelord Neato posted:Homicides did but mass shootings didn't (for obvious reasons). It's also important to keep in mind that the uptick in homicides started back in early winter of 2020. You'll see a lot of scummy motivated liars trying to tie it to defund the police, but it actually predates that and is also a national trend although, like I mentioned, a lot of local media (where I live for one) tries really hard to present it as a hyperlocal issue. Covid certainly played into it as well and probably a lot, but I believe the statistics I've seen (don't have time to look right now) show the start of the spike a little before that Edit: also unless I'm just completely braindead about reading statistics even with the increases over 2020 it's still way down from the peaks in the 80s/90s HashtagGirlboss has issued a correction as of 16:19 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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If I had to guess, I'd guess there was a lot more "normal" violence and fewer spectacle killings last year.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:
Of course it's still much lower than those years, right before the pandemic hit NY passed bail reform so every cop and cop allied media outlet started presenting every crime that was possible to be the fault of that (on to off this insane right wing talking point that criminals were being coddled, "you could murder someone be let out and they'll give you Mets tickets" was something I heard at least once a week till everything became about COVID and thr culture war around it
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Mass shootings were at a record high in 2020 if you use the Mass Shooting tracker, but were at their lowest level in like 20 years if you use the Mother Jones tracker. Which goes to show how "mass shooting" is a useless, totally politicized concept.
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big spree shootings where somebody shoots up a crowded public place were much less common in 2020, for reasons that should be p obvious but there was a big spike in homicide in general, including gun homicides how this affects the number of mass shootings depends on how a given source defines "mass shooting". for example, if a person shoots their neighbor, then goes home and shoots their four kids and then themself, is that a mass shooting? some trackers say yes aside from the not-too-surprising reasons why homicide would be up in 2020, keep in mind that there was also a massive spike in gun sales in 2020. in fact, there were several spikes. one when the COVID shutdowns started, another when protests against police brutality ramped up in summer, and then another massive spike when Biden was inaugurated nearly 40 million guns were sold in 2020, a record for yearly sales. and another 4 million were sold in January 2021, setting a new record for monthly sales
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Main Paineframe posted:aside from the not-too-surprising reasons why homicide would be up in 2020, keep in mind that there was also a massive spike in gun sales in 2020. in fact, there were several spikes. one when the COVID shutdowns started, another when protests against police brutality ramped up in summer, and then another massive spike when Biden was inaugurated  This nation is already so over saturated with guns that this statistic is kind of meaningless
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HashtagGirlboss posted:
It just means people that have dozens of guns already somehow needed more
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lol just turn on the news, mass shootings are definitely back in fashion 🇺🇸
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Centrist Committee posted:lol just turn on the news, mass shootings are definitely back in fashion 🇺🇸 Biden fulfilled his only promise, made America normal again
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HashtagGirlboss posted:
one quarter of all the tracked gun purchases January were sold in Illinois. literally 1 million purchases in one month in a state with a population of 12.6 million people 2nd place was Kentucky, with ~400k gun purchases in a state with a population of 4.4 million people meanwhile, NY, MA, and DC combined had less than 100k gun sales that month actually what the gently caress is up with Illinois anyway? it's topped the gun purchase numbers for a couple years now, with 7 million gun purchases that year - again, in a state with a total population of 12 million. in 2021 so far, there's already been another 3.5 million gun purchases there. if it keeps going at this rate, there's gonna be enough gun sales in IL this year to arm literally everyone in the state with brand-new freshly-manufactured guns, and still have some extras
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Main Paineframe posted:big spree shootings where somebody shoots up a crowded public place were much less common in 2020, for reasons that should be p obvious hey can you explain why the mass murder of communists is better than the mass murder of homosexuals? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Main Paineframe posted:actually what the gently caress is up with Illinois anyway? it's topped the gun purchase numbers for a couple years now, with 7 million gun purchases that year - again, in a state with a total population of 12 million. in 2021 so far, there's already been another 3.5 million gun purchases there. if it keeps going at this rate, there's gonna be enough gun sales in IL this year to arm literally everyone in the state with brand-new freshly-manufactured guns, and still have some extras if i had to guess, probably the existence of chicago and also the entire rest of the state being filled with chuds who think chicago is the most dangerous place on earth
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Illinois just had a car jacking media frenzy. There was an actual spike in car jackings in some south side Chicago neighborhoods as far as I know, but plenty of people in exurban white flight towns freaked out too.
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