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BGrifter posted:Yeah I had to reload for that during my last P5R playthrough too. Even worse, I wrote over my previous save and the most recent one I had left was the one from before my 4-hour jaunt through Mementos. 
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I didn’t experience that but I definitely hosed up at the beginning of Chihaya’s SL because I didn’t realize it would take a whole night
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anakha posted:Even worse, I wrote over my previous save and the most recent one I had left was the one from before my 4-hour jaunt through Mementos. If it makes you feel any better those cafe hangouts are just short fluff scenes of you playing video games or watching a movie with whoever stops by, and doesn’t affect anything besides just giving a few confidant points and some skill points depending on the movie or game.
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DC Murderverse posted:I know that’s a specific cultural difference; one of the “fun” things about Japan building a democracy in the 1950s specifically inspired by and partially created by the United States is that they internalized all of the rabid anti-drug messaging at face value without any of the racialized subtext that it was made with here. I might be a little slow on the draw to this but Japan didn't just cargo cult American anti-drug culture, every single one of their Pacific Rim contemporaries dealt with the European powers using opium distribution to further colonial goals and subjugation and even in the periods where Japan was most secluded from global affairs they were aware of that. It's the same reason China/Indonesia/Singapore/Malaysia fast-track you to death row for having drugs in saleable quantities.
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Hunt11 posted:Finally got past New Years in my second playthrough of Royal. I had forgotten just how refreshing/fun it was to have Akechi drop the act and be the monster that he really is. Kasumi being like "Um is he okay" and Joker just being like "yeah this pretty much akechi's normal" was a good laugh. The three of them are fun and I wish there was more than just two short days of it being just them. Rockstar Massacre posted:I might be a little slow on the draw to this but Japan didn't just cargo cult American anti-drug culture, every single one of their Pacific Rim contemporaries dealt with the European powers using opium distribution to further colonial goals and subjugation and even in the periods where Japan was most secluded from global affairs they were aware of that. Drug use also exploded after WW2 when the millitary dumped all their meth onto the market, and then again in the recession in the 90s with cocaine. Regardless even if the phantom thieves are squares I think it's kinda okay that they don't shoot heroin or anything and wouldn't hold that against them. DC Murderverse posted:On multiple occasions the main characters say “well there’s no way we could drink alcohol, we’re minors!” with a straight face, which in a US-set game would be followed by a pause and raucous laughter as each of the teens explains that they’ve got a relative or friend that they could absolutely score booze from, no problem. (Note: Unlike the drug thing I haven't personally talked to any experts in the field so this is all secondhand knowledge and reading articles on the internet I've done years ago) They probably don't do that because underaged drinking is kind-of a problem in japan. While it's up to your individual morals on if people of any age should drink or use drugs (I'm against it but I won't force my views on other people or anything), I think most people can agree that science has indicated teenagers shouldn't and it has also indicated that teenagers in japan that haven't at least tried alchohol are in the minority. Does that mean Japan has an epidemic of brain-damaged teenagers due to drinking? I have no idea, it's not something I've looked into. Probably still isn't something that should be encouraged, though. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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anakha posted:Even worse, I wrote over my previous save and the most recent one I had left was the one from before my 4-hour jaunt through Mementos. If it’s any comfort P5R is by far the most generous and laid back game in the history of the franchise. The fortune telling ability completely eliminates the need for hangouts. If you treat it at all like P3/P4 you’re gonna end up with a month of free time toward the end to spend at the gym or whatever. As long as you stick to good habits like doing as much of a dungeon as you can in a single day, saving Mementos missions to do a bunch all at once, and being diligent about stats/social links, it’s hard for things to go too terribly wrong.
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Make sure to check both arcades I've hosed myself over on three files by not starting a link, I keep forgetting which arcade it starts in
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Acerbatus posted:Kasumi being like "Um is he okay" and Joker just being like "yeah this pretty much akechi's normal" was a good laugh. I'd pay for a DLC that made Akechi the navigator the entire game, even if it wouldn't make sense.
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They been remixing the SMT1 and 2 soundtrack for ages, The teaser for Final was SMT1's Title Theme, then SMT2's, then SMT3's all remixed. It was extremely exciting.
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Harrow posted:Where's our cool delinquent girl? Stuck in persona 4, unfortunately! I have to say I wouldn't mind the next persona to have a trashfire main group instead of the classic chariot-magician-lovers-priestess-emperor-empress arcana. Tower, moon, death, hanged man social links as your party members, just give me a main cast of people who are totally disfunctional.
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Gaius Marius posted:Make sure to check both arcades I've hosed myself over on three files by not starting a link, I keep forgetting which arcade it starts in Doesn't it kinda start organically by you accepting a request you can't beat unless you talk to that Confidant? From there you can just narrow it down. Deltasquid posted:Stuck in persona 4, unfortunately! Well outside of the usual suspects, we've had Hierophant (Shinjiro), Fortune (Naoto), Strength (Koromaru), Justice (Ken/Akechi), Star (Teddie). Most of them are fairly positive arcana though. Moon isn't really a negative Arcana however, and Death and Hanged Man are at worst melancholic. Tower is the real trashfire.
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Well P5 didn't come out on the PC so I'm going to avoid this thread until it does. SO see ya in like 4 years when you're all on P6: The Prime Minister and steam gets a release of P5R
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YaketySass posted:make Tower the MC's ultimate persona for some real Disaster Dumbass energy Yoshitsune is indeed Tower
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Newbie Question: How often should I talk to enemies in dungeons? It seems like I should just recruit the Persona otherwise I should All-Out Attack. Is that the right strategy?
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FlowerRhythmREMIX posted:Newbie Question: The Sun Confident has abilities that'll let you extort more money and items from Shadows in negotiations, but otherwise yeah - recruit one so you can record them in the Compendium in the Velvet Room (if nothing else), and otherwise just All Out Attack.
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FlowerRhythmREMIX posted:Newbie Question: Generally I only bother negotiating with Shadows when I want to recruit the Persona. Otherwise I just kill them. Negotiating for money and items can be good but you get so much money in Mementos in Royal that it's not really a huge concern. Later on, your navigator will get an ability that will also let you know when it's worth it to negotiate for an item. Where you are right now, an All-Out Attack is usually the best option when you have every Shadow knocked down and you don't need to recruit any of them. Later in the game, when you power up your Baton Pass to provide a bigger damage boost, you might sometimes get more oomph out of backing out of the hold up and passing the baton to someone else so they can nuke with a big damage skill. It's situational.
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Deltasquid posted:Stuck in persona 4, unfortunately! Nobody said it yet so I guess I am obligated to. Persona 1 and 2 had Moon, Hanged Man, Death, and Devil party members. No Towers though Persona 1 also has a cool delinquent girl in the party, also a party member in P2 but more reformed. Basically the story of Persona 3 established the Death arcana as a special threshold of sorts and none of the human characters were allowed to have arcana numbered higher than Death. For the party members in subsequent games, IIRC only Teddie has had a higher numbered arcana than Death, probably because he's not human and was originally a Shadow. Item Getter fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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afaik yukino was already pretty chilled out in persona 1 as a ex-delinquent whos kind and supportive but also tough (the empress), which carries over to 2  there were some tower personas in the first 2 games also, but i can't recall which party members had a higher affinity with em...
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Booky posted:afaik yukino was already pretty chilled out in persona 1 as a ex-delinquent whos kind and supportive but also tough (the empress), which carries over to 2 I'm aware that personality wise she was pretty much reformed in P1, though I just meant that visually speaking her P1 version looks like a Japanese delinquent schoolgirl stereotype and she throws razors as a weapon, which gets dropped in her P2 incarnation for a more normal look.
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Item Getter posted:I'm aware that personality wise she was pretty much reformed in P1, though I just meant that visually speaking her P1 version looks like a Japanese delinquent schoolgirl stereotype and she throws razors as a weapon, which gets dropped in her P2 incarnation for a more normal look. ah oops, i thought it was about personality 
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Deltasquid posted:Stuck in persona 4, unfortunately! P4 had one of those? I legitimately don't remember. Booky posted:afaik yukino was already pretty chilled out in persona 1 as a ex-delinquent whos kind and supportive but also tough (the empress), which carries over to 2 OG Persona only had two Tower persona, Nyarthalotep and some other one. Nyarthalotep had "Worst" affinity with everyone except Reiji, though I don't remember if he had an actually good one or just less bad. ApplesandOranges posted:Doesn't it kinda start organically by you accepting a request you can't beat unless you talk to that Confidant? From there you can just narrow it down. Moon is one of the most often negative Arcana outside of Tower, but yeah there's none that are strictly negative or anything. Persona 3 had probably the most dysfunctional party dynamic of the modern personas and it's also the one I found most interesting. A bit of conflict is good, at least when it isn't awful like Yosuke calling Kanji gay or Morgana and Ryuji's dumbass slapfight. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Acerbatus posted:P4 had one of those? I legitimately don't remember. 
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I cannot decide if I feel really sorry for Yosuke and want to be closer to him, or if I want to punch him in his sexist/homophobic face. In short. Yosuke is a land of contrasts. *EDIT* Oh hey I just completed Yosuke's social link and got to punch him in the face Thanks game! That was satisfying. Solaris 2.0 fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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The other one is Amatsu-Mikaboshi/Shaa (Revelations); and only Reiji could use Nyaralathotep while all the men could use the other. Both Towers sucked though. That arcana had some really good persona in the second game but only Baofu could reliably get any good use out of them. It wasn't until 3 onward that the arcana housed some loving monsters.
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I think about the weird name changes in Revelations: Persona a lot, but I keep forgetting they also changed the persona names to dumb stuff too. Every time I think the translation couldn't get any worse it does.
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Yes let's just forget all this mythology and pull random names out of our rear end They also somehow managed to come up with English spell names that were even more confusing than the standard Agi. Bufu etc is to first time players.
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When I realized that translation job was done in 9 months a lot of the choices made make a lot more sense
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Gaius Marius posted:When I realized that translation job was done in 9 months a lot of the choices made make a lot more sense This is almost certainly the reason for a lot of PS1 era localizations being what they were.
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My first run-in with the Futaba Palace boss in one image: The storyline at the end of that Palace was pretty uncomfortable for me, but I guess that was the intention.
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Yukino's design in P2 was pretty cool, and I liked her beanie. It was pretty cool how she got a lot of focus in IS.Booky posted:afaik yukino was already pretty chilled out in persona 1 as a ex-delinquent whos kind and supportive but also tough (the empress), which carries over to 2 The Tower Personas in 2 were weird. No one is capable of having Best affinity with any of them, with Baofu being the only person to have Good affinity. The only Persona that breaks the rules is Loki, who has Normal affinity with every party member.
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amigolupus posted:Yukino's design in P2 was pretty cool, and I liked her beanie. It was pretty cool how she got a lot of focus in IS. Yukino was cool, I love how they updated her design to incorporate her new life while keeping aspects of her old look. All the P1 cast looked pretty dope, but Maki was straight styling
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Just finished maxing out Sun. Favorite Social Link storyline in the game so far, but holy poo poo, the identities of the Phantom Thieves must be the worst-kept secret in Tokyo. 
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Commander Keene posted:The only people who don't know are the cops, apparently. Strikers pretty much has the cops being very aware, too.
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