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Spacebump posted:It is too bad Amazon is doing the Invincible animated series. Would have been sweet to see a live action Snyder version of that for netflix. He would have made a near 1:1 adaptation but then been accused of not understanding the source material because he used a Sparks song the wrong way.
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Is Harley's threat over custom license plates a sign she's still obsessed with da joker? Cuz he would def have those
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Blood Boils posted:Is Harley's threat over custom license plates a sign she's still obsessed with da joker? Cuz he would def have those 
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Apr 2, 2021 06:35
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Lol Ya gotta move on sister! In fact you had a whole movie where you did that
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Apr 2, 2021 06:55
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How appropriate that Joker would drive around in a Decepticon named Dead End? 
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Apr 2, 2021 07:23
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Spacebump posted:It is too bad Amazon is doing the Invincible animated series. Would have been sweet to see a live action Snyder version of that for netflix. My hope is he’d be done with cape poo poo in general now. If he’s not doing DCEU anymore, I can’t imagine he’d have the motivation to take on some new property that’s in the exact same genre...he’s already made 4 different cape movies. I’m sure he’ll find other interesting poo poo to do not involving superheroes.
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teagone posted:https://twitter.com/ava/status/1377725452228431873 yeah but on the other hand no literal CIA spook touching New Gods scripts anymore Everyone posted:Then gently caress DC/Warner. Marvel/Disney's still open for business and they're fine with women/PoC people. Nothing says Namor has to be white and figure the Eternals will need somebody to write its sequel. If DC/Warner wants to push cool, talented people aside, let them suck on the resulting lack of cool, talented people. Thank you Mouse overlord for being fine with women and PoC, you are the most benevolent
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I'm sure that WB can find another director to film the same four superheroes standing around in the dark looking grim. It would probably have been better for New Gods if the Snyder cut had been a flop. Now WB doesn't have any reason to try anything new.
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Apr 2, 2021 08:54
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Xealot posted:My hope is he’d be done with cape poo poo in general now. If he’s not doing DCEU anymore, I can’t imagine he’d have the motivation to take on some new property that’s in the exact same genre...he’s already made 4 different cape movies. Six different cape movies, you forgot the owl squad and the oily Greeks.
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Oasx posted:I'm sure that WB can find another director to film the same four superheroes standing around in the dark looking grim. This makes no sense. You're agreeing with some empty suits that no one wants to see a character so soon after them appearing in another film before talking about being excited for The Batman - a film featuring a character everyone just saw and will be depicted completely differently. Just let that sink in a little bit. Justice League was a massive success, especially for HBOMax, and it showed people were open to seeing films that weren't 2 hour clones of Marvel films. Had the film flopped we'd be seeing the same thing and folks like you would still find a way to blame Snyder. Don't be a corporate bootlicker because you don't like a director. Jimbot fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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I'm perplexed what "trying something new" here would even mean. WB clearly hated Snyder's direction for the universe and spent the last 4 years trying to dismantle it only for people to clamor for more of it. But even then they've had wild successes like Joker and Aquaman that didn't really take much from Snyder (Aquaman clearly took the casting and some mythos while going for a wildly different tone), and less successful movies like Shazam! and WW84 that never-the-less tried for more "color" and fun, and they have an entire stable of characters and properties to try a bunch of stuff with.
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fatherboxx posted:yeah but on the other hand no literal CIA spook touching New Gods scripts anymore What?
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Apr 2, 2021 15:42
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Tom King claims to be CIA, in a manner so stupid it may well be true.
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RBA Starblade posted:What? Tom King is an ex-CIA employee who keeps writing misery porn comics about superheroes that are somehow about how sad it was to be a CIA employee in Iraq
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God I love this movie lol.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:God I love this movie lol. I like the idea of the Joker standing in line at the DMV to get that plate
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Oasx posted:I'm sure that WB can find another director to film the same four superheroes standing around in the dark looking grim. I literally can't understand the logic of this post. How would it be better if the Snyder cut had been a flop? It's literally free advertising for The New Gods. Why would this prevent them from trying something new? Was this written by a WB executive?
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McCloud posted:I literally can't understand the logic of this post. How would it be better if the Snyder cut had been a flop? It's literally free advertising for The New Gods. Why would this prevent them from trying something new? The sentiment here is "I hate <this director> and I want them to fail" and then you just work backwards from there. Sure, none of it will make sense but the important thing is that the artist loses.
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Apr 2, 2021 16:38
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Oasx posted:I'm sure that WB can find another director to film the same four superheroes standing around in the dark looking grim. Just a reminder this goon stood up for Joss Whedon. This goon defended Joss Whedon. Willingly. Justa fuckin' reminder. [edit] I don't forget some poo poo like that. Not ever. Oasx posted:The arguments against Whedon can pretty much be boiled down to an angry ex-wife, and a few actors who are mad that they didn’t get things exactly how they wanted it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) teagone fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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teagone posted:Just a reminder this goon stood up for Joss Whedon. This goon defended Joss Whedon. Willingly. Justa fuckin' reminder. I don’t know how you remember poo poo like this. But I’m glad you do. Because that’s a yikes.
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Aged like loving milk.Oasx posted:There are plenty of things to criticise Whedon about, I have never claimed that he was perfect or that he didn't make mistakes.
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Love the rhetorical switch of "I don't like this philandering gaslighting dough ball because he abuses his authority, particularly toward women but also minorities too" becoming "I think he's the devil incarnate".
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Ooof. loving yikes. You want to take a stab and defend Weinstein while you're at it?
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I'm shaming with receipts, I don't give a gently caress lol. Yo, let's all put these posts:Oasx posted:Two disgruntled ex-employees, both of which have a bone to pick with Whedon for the pettiest of reasons, I know as little of what happened as anyone else, exactly nothing. Oasx posted:She got pregnant which forced them to re-write the show without her character, when she came back they couldn't just drop all the work they had done in order to include her in season 5, so she was limited to appearing in the final few episodes. You can't really call it being fired when you are still a part of the show. Next to these tweets: https://twitter.com/AllCharisma/status/1359537752853807105 https://twitter.com/variety/status/1359592500621578240  
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Apr 2, 2021 17:25
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teagone posted:Just a reminder this goon stood up for Joss Whedon. This goon defended Joss Whedon. Willingly. Justa fuckin' reminder. Good of you to misrepresent old posts. I stood up for him back when there were essentially two complaints against him, one of which was that the guy who played Xander was upset that his character wasn't buff and manly enough, the other was Charisma Carpenter who hadn't revealed anything of what really happened on Angel. When it was clear what an awful person he was I expressed that, just like anyone else. It's not like you had psychic powers, you just really hated the guy as long as I can remember because his work wasn't dark and dreary enough.
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Oasx posted:It's not like you had psychic powers, you just really hated the guy as long as I can remember because his work wasn't dark and dreary enough. No, I just personally choose to stand with the victims and not defend someone because they made some TV shows I like.
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Jimbot posted:This makes no sense. You're agreeing with some empty suits that no one wants to see a character so soon after them appearing in another film before talking about being excited for The Batman - a film featuring a character everyone just saw and will be depicted completely differently. Just let that sink in a little bit. How may people watched (Snyder's) Justice League because of the New Gods? Probably about as many as watched Infinity War to see more cosmic marvel. Sure the movie itself could have made people hyped for New Gods, but do you think the people at WB think like that? They see Snyder doing what DC has done best since Batman Begins, which is to make dark and gritty superheroes that are opposed to the light comedy Marvel puts out. I have nothing against Snyder, and I am happy that he actually got to make his movie even if it doesn't seem to be my thing. But let's be honest, this thread is essentially the Zack Snyder fanclub, and has been for years, even slight criticism is heavily frowned upon.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Love the rhetorical switch of "I don't like this philandering gaslighting dough ball because he abuses his authority, particularly toward women but also minorities too" becoming "I think he's the devil incarnate". As somebody who watches a show about the devil incarnate (Lucifer) I'm offended by that comparison. Lucifer seems like a much better and more decent person than Joss Whedon.
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Oasx posted:dark and gritty superheroes that are opposed to the light comedy Marvel puts out. The DC heroes are only dark and gritty if you're under 10 years old or a sheltered STEM bookworm. I'm sorry, but anyone who was holding up Whedon's Buffy, Firefly, or Dollhouse (lol) work in 2019 as "amazing tv" needs to take the next exit from the conversation.
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Oasx posted:But let's be honest, this thread is essentially the Zack Snyder fanclub, and has been for years, even slight criticism is heavily frowned upon. Meaningful critique and corporate bootlicking are two different things.
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I thought the other complaint was James Marters, who expressed similar "my career was threatened and I was bullied by Joss" as Fisher and (by second-hand sources) Gadot. It seems like the Ray Fisher accusation came out after those posts, but there was a lot of smoke there with several reports and strong rumors and his ex-wife speaking out. You can argue you didn't know enough and were wrong to not accept those signs, but claiming people hated him "because he wasn't grimdark enough" is a...odd defense here.
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Oasx posted:Good of you to misrepresent old posts. I stood up for him back when there were essentially two complaints against him, one of which was that the guy who played Xander was upset that his character wasn't buff and manly enough, the other was Charisma Carpenter who hadn't revealed anything of what really happened on Angel. When it was clear what an awful person he was I expressed that, just like anyone else. No, we just had the basic decency to believe the victims and not rush to the defense of a racist abuser like other nameless pieces of poo poo did. The Charisma Carpenter thing has been known for loving years because she told the whole loving story at a convention, and even though she sugar coated it anyone with half a drat brain had giant alarms going off about how Whedon fired an actress for geting pregnant. The ex-wifes reveal was in 2017. So you're just gaslighting at this point to defend a racist abusive piece of poo poo because you liked some mediocre tv-shows from the 90's . I'd also take a moment to note the GOP-like projection here. "You hated the guy because his work wasn't X". No Oasx, some of us hate directors because they're lousy scumbags whose actions hurt people, not because they made media we don't like. And we don't rush to the defense of monsters like that and excuse their actions because they made disposable entertainment we like. You're just like the shitheads defending Polanski and Woody Allen. Just  and don't come back
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Oasx posted:How may people watched (Snyder's) Justice League because of the New Gods? Probably about as many as watched Infinity War to see more cosmic marvel. There's an actual Zack Snyder fanclub thread, he barely gets brought up in this one
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Guy A. Person posted:It seems like the Ray Fisher accusation came out after those posts, but there was a lot of smoke there with several reports and strong rumors and his ex-wife speaking out. You can argue you didn't know enough and were wrong to not accept those signs, but claiming people hated him "because he wasn't grimdark enough" is a...odd defense here. I mean, but this had already been aired out from Kai Cole's letter: quote:"He wrote me, 'When I was running Buffy, I was surrounded by beautiful, needy, aggressive young women. It felt like I had a disease, like something from a Greek myth. Suddenly I am a powerful producer and the world is laid out at my feet, and I can't touch it,'" Cole writes. "But he did touch it." Imo, that's all you really needed to know to stop and think, "Oh, maybe I shouldn't defend this creep because I like his shows." Lmao.
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2house2fly posted:There's an actual Zack Snyder fanclub thread, he barely gets brought up in this one I understand it's more of a dome?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The DC heroes are only dark and gritty if you're under 10 years old or a sheltered STEM bookworm. They are pretty dark and gritty compared to most comicbook stories. Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I'm sorry, but anyone who was holding up Whedon's Buffy, Firefly, or Dollhouse (lol) work in 2019 as "amazing tv" needs to take the next exit from the conversation. Buffy is genuinely a great tv show, especially for its time and the importance it had on genre tv. But of course it has aged as all things do. I wouldn't call the rest of his work amazing, but I did like it. I have no problem with people who don't like his style, I just find it bizarre how angry some people get at others enjoying it. And I am of course speaking about his professional work, his abuse of young women on set is horrible. teagone posted:Meaningful critique and corporate bootlicking are two different things. Ahh yes, if you like Zack Snyder it's because he's a minor god, if you like Marvel it's bootlicking. I care as much about Disney as you do WB, but I do care for the Marvel universe. Whether it's Disney that holds the money I don't really care about.
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teagone posted:I mean, but this had already been aired out from Kai Cole's letter: Yeah, for clarification I definitely don't agree with that stance, it was obvious then (and is even more obvious in hindsight) that he was at the least a loving creep and had stepped over lines. I don't at all agree with the idea that there needs to be hard evidence against people when we all loving know that's how abusers in these situations control the narrative, and that the actors specifically are in a tight spot where speaking out can get them blacklisted (like Ray Fisher is right the gently caress now despite telling the truth about everything and getting actual abusers punished). But still, I understand that this narrative is seductive, it's easier to assume someone you like just had some bad press but there's no smoking gun, you know?
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Oasx posted:They are pretty dark and gritty compared to most comicbook stories. This is something that only someone who doesn't read comicbooks would say. Sitcom-level tone, constant quips, and zero-consequence violence are actually not the norm in comic books, which is why comic books sell like 1% of what these blockbuster cape movies do. Also stop saying that we think Zack fuckin' Snyder is a minor god or whatever. Nobody thinks that. He's an interesting auteur director with a weird perspective and expertise in cinematography. That's it.
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