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algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Lol what happened to the Corvettes???

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Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

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algebra testes posted:

Lol what happened to the Corvettes???

The #3 came back to take the lead only to get clipped by a BMW with 8 mins left. Good finish!

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

if anyone's still awake, the Super Taikyu 5 Hours of Motegi is live now and it's raining :pcgaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9djvRuFLjc

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

A good story about the JDC Miller win at Sebring:

https://racer.com/2021/03/23/insight-how-jdc-miller-sprung-an-upset-at-sebring/

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


this is unbelievable, they went through four front-end pieces during the race, and that's not even the wildest detail.

whole lot of motorsports getting started this weekend, MotoGP kicks off in Qatar and also the Nurburgring NLS series has the NLS1 round as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R-HpWfAnLU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVPnHfHebF4

If there's a real desire I'll throw more of these schedules/links into the OP.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Gimme that NLS goodness

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Ahh we need a new racing bike thread.

Sometimes it spawns in the Mototcycle Asylum.

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

algebra testes posted:

Ahh we need a new racing bike thread.

Supercross 2021: It's a GasGas!

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

algebra testes posted:

Ahh we need a new racing bike thread.

Sometimes it spawns in the Mototcycle Asylum.

Yeah - I’ve noticed there’s discussion between Cycle Asylum, the F1 thread (and their predilection for red Italians) and sometimes even here. I’m willing to say we include MotoGP in this thread or put up a MotoGP thread in SAS, because I’m not sure there’s as much crossover between CA and SAS posting tone, if that makes sense.

Might go poke my head into the F1 thread and judge interest.

WindyMan posted:

Supercross 2021: It's a GasGas!

I knew this post would come.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Also everyone's favorite "and also on this weekend" series, the 24 HR series is back with the 12 hours of Mugello, 4 hours friday, 8 hours saturday. It's a pretty amateur field, without many pros because they're all at...

The First Round of The NLS series. I like the NLS series but I understand it's a very abstract series in that you obviously don't see the cars through the ring most of the time but the RLMs team are chill to hang out with and it's usually free on Youtube to watch.

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 26, 2021

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

In a shocker of shocks, IMSA is gonna grant GM a waiver to run a laughably detuned C8R in GTD Pro. They will need to give back about 5 seconds in lap time at Sebring, and 4 seconds at Daytona with a much shorter lap so uh... yeah. To be fair, going to spec rubber (if GTD Pro goes that way) will likely take a huge bite out of their grip.

https://racer.com/2021/03/29/corvette-expected-to-get-waiver-to-allow-gtd-pro-move/

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

IMSA has allowed BMW to run something Not GTE in GTLM in the past, so I'm honestly not shocked they're allowing the Corvette to be de-tuned. It was the most likely scenario because I didn't think GM wanted to develop the GT3 customer racing business structure that like the VAG brands/Mercedes have, so it's not like this has to be a GT3 car you see everywhere else around the world.

as long as it's in the same window I think it'll be fine. non-confidential tires will definitely do that too.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
I think the spec rubber will almost certainly get them close. The big places that GTLM has the advantage are the tires, aerodynamic efficiency with their huge diffusers (although the current crop of GT3s aren't far off), and a little bit of engine power, but I think most of it is tires. Those confidential Michelins are absurdly good.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Super Formula starts this weekend!

For those that haven't heard of it before, it used to be Formula Nippon, and before that Japanese F3000/F2. The series can trace its lineage back to the 1970s, and while it's not quite as wild as the late '80s/early '90s (with open chassis and engine rules, tons of tobacco money and a tire war) it's still one of the two top racing series in Japan, along with Super GT.

The teams use a spec Dallara chassis with Yokohama rubber and slightly re-worked versions of Honda and Toyota's Super GT GT500 turbo four-cylinder engines. They have push to pass and some requirements about pit stops, but otherwise it's good open-wheel racing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdJRbgownbM

I think the race will come up on the YouTube channel eventually, but they also are on Red Bull TV online or on their app. Live worldwide with English commentary.

[edit] vvvvvv I'm pretty sure it's just Red Bull TV carrying the feed Super Formula produces for Japan but with English commentary, similar to Super GT on YouTube for the rest of the world.

speaking of which I haven't heard or seen who's carrying Anime GT this year, will have to keep a lookout for that.

harperdc fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Apr 4, 2021

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Oh poo poo RBTV got Super Formula? Their WRC coverage has always been good so I’m happy about this.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
There's the replay :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYODTrXEjQQ

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
I enjoyed the Super Formula race. I thought Oyu was gonna pull it off. Great drives by Yamamoto, Oshima, Hirakawa, and Nojiri.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Fuji could be fixed if the godawful final section was remodeled.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Frond posted:

Fuji could be fixed if the godawful final section was remodeled.

I wish it was, but that was the big change they did before 2006. At least the first two-thirds of the lap are really good.

The Dinner With Racers podcast guys dropped a video, it might mean more episodes soon.

https://twitter.com/dwrshow/status/1379099845814673409

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Well, Super GT finally has a broadcast home for 2021:

https://twitter.com/motorsporttv_uk/status/1380062581113638913

Was this up behind a paywall last time?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

harperdc posted:

Well, Super GT finally has a broadcast home for 2021:

https://twitter.com/motorsporttv_uk/status/1380062581113638913

Was this up behind a paywall last time?

I thought it was on Youtube, but that might only be parts of the world.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

algebra testes posted:

I thought it was on Youtube, but that might only be parts of the world.

It was on motorsport like 2 season ago and the coverage sucked as far as I can remember. The commentators were dull.

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

GET EQUIPPED
Hello, new to the thread & I see a lot of circuit racing discussion and I was curious - does anyone follow / enjoy FIA world rallycross? New season starts in a couple months and getting a discussion going would be fun for those that follow (or are new to the sport). It's technically circuit racing but I didn't know if it warranted a new thread; I'm guessing it doesn't.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


I watch WRX occasionally since it's on free TV in the UK, it's one of those series' I always enjoy watching but never remember its on though. This is the thread for it though, WRC stuff goes in here too.

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

GET EQUIPPED
Cool, good to know! From what I've seen, the events are posted on youtube on their official channel, though I usually have to use a VPN for the semis & finals since I'm in the US (I didn't have to last season, though). Here's the schedule for the interested:

RX1 = RX Supercar
RX3 = S1600

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

RoboFrance_29 posted:

Hello, new to the thread & I see a lot of circuit racing discussion and I was curious - does anyone follow / enjoy FIA world rallycross? New season starts in a couple months and getting a discussion going would be fun for those that follow (or are new to the sport). It's technically circuit racing but I didn't know if it warranted a new thread; I'm guessing it doesn't.

Feel free to pop in and discuss, post links, share videos, whatever you’d like for WRX :) It’s absolutely allowed in here - World Rally and Dakar have been discussed here, along with Extreme E a couple weeks back, so it’s not an asphalt-only zone.

I’ll edit the OP to add some World RX info in a bit!

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://jalopnik.com/its-probably-time-to-repave-sebring-1846489631

I have found it, the wrongest hot take in endurance racing.

Yes I know it's a month old but drat. "Repave sebring because it's better when more cars finish within 1/10 of a second of the leader vs finishing in the garage with a broken suspension arm"

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


That article was dumb and reading it at the time I was heartened that all the comments were calling the writer a dipshit.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
:wrong:

That's a pretty awful take.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



I love that the loving video he put in there refuted why sebring should be repaved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzVv1DyoJ6g

If you remove all the bumps, Sebring is a flat, boring track that will be min-maxed to the point where the track and race is irrelevant. The draw of the race is that if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

njsykora posted:

That article was dumb and reading it at the time I was heartened that all the comments were calling the writer a dipshit.

I love that I know who posted the featured "This is the wrong take" comment, sports car racing internet is a small world.

Brownell might be an okay writer but Jesus Wept he has some absolutely abysmal takes on racing, especially endurance racing.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



There's also people in the comments that call Laguna Seca's corkscrew a "mundane, boring chicane that dips down".

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

The only fresh concrete at Sebring should be the small patch he's buried under.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

spaceblancmange posted:

The only fresh concrete at Sebring should be the small patch he's buried under.

And it should have a half-inch lip either under or above the track surface next to it.

If you want a perfectly manicured safe space for specialist cars that only have to make it around the track a handful of times, go watch F1.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


orange juche posted:

https://jalopnik.com/its-probably-time-to-repave-sebring-1846489631

I have found it, the wrongest hot take in endurance racing.

Yes I know it's a month old but drat. "Repave sebring because it's better when more cars finish within 1/10 of a second of the leader vs finishing in the garage with a broken suspension arm"

Every single one of that dude's articles are terrible.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
He was right about the ACO ruining LMP2 but even a broken clock etc.

The rest of his takes are hot garbage

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Yeah some of the coolest poo poo in endurance racing has been when the pit crew tackles a normally race-ending problem and turns the car around and gets it back on the track to place and possibly win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY

Example the 5 minute rear end change in one of the Audis in 2000.

Or the 23 and 17 minute turbo changes in 2014 that delivered a 1-2 Audi victory, when defeat seemed all but certain. (the 5 minute reduction in time was because the mechanics had burned their hands so badly on the first change that their hands were numb/melted to the inside of their gloves :gonk: and they couldn't feel the 1000 degree turbochargers any more)

gently caress anyone who says that more reliable cars more better.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
That run from 2014 onwards was extremely good poo poo and if people have the money I recommend the Duke Video hilights of 2015 and 2016 especially.

4 hours, Radio Le Mans commentary. Extremely good poo poo.

Edit: the morning shift change in 2016 was :discourse:

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Apr 20, 2021

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

orange juche posted:

Yeah some of the coolest poo poo in endurance racing has been when the pit crew tackles a normally race-ending problem and turns the car around and gets it back on the track to place and possibly win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY

Example the 5 minute rear end change in one of the Audis in 2000.

Or the 23 and 17 minute turbo changes in 2014 that delivered a 1-2 Audi victory, when defeat seemed all but certain. (the 5 minute reduction in time was because the mechanics had burned their hands so badly on the first change that their hands were numb/melted to the inside of their gloves :gonk: and they couldn't feel the 1000 degree turbochargers any more)

gently caress anyone who says that more reliable cars more better.

as a kid who loved learning about racing and the technical side from watching the IMSA GTP and Group C eras (loved learning about why the Jags had covered rear wheels for example), and turning into a teenage racing nerd by the time the late '90s/early 2000s era was coming around, I remember seeing that rear end change live and going :tviv: over it.

the 2014 turbo changes are also wild because I remember reading/hearing at the time that they had all the kit available together - so if you needed a turbo, it came bundled with the parts and tools. Joest absolutely took that kind of preparation to another level.


algebra testes posted:

That run from 2014 onwards was extremely good poo poo and if people have the money I recommend the Duke Video hilights of 2015 and 2016 especially.

4 hours, Radio Le Mans commentary. Extremely good poo poo.

Edit: the morning shift change in 2016 was :discourse:

man I need to go track those down huh. both those years were excellent.

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WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

orange juche posted:

gently caress anyone who says that more reliable cars more better.

Some of the reliability is just a matter of cars getting built better. But then cars lost some of that back because they had to lighten cars and lean out engines to try to beat the two or three other top manufacturers that were also doing that.

The Audi/Toyota/Peugeot years were some of the drat best. And then just when you thought things were going to stop getting interesting, an LMP2 car almost wins the drat thing in 2017.

Hopefully things will spice back up when the LMDh cars are fully up and running.

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