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The mirror universe version of Harry Kim is called Scary Him
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My usual mirror universe thoughts https://youtu.be/FrrLWt53BUc
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Apr 5, 2021 14:42
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Yeah, Mirror Universe shenanigans were way more egregious in DS9 than most time travel stories (except in TOS or for the end of Trials and Tribulations where Kira "just figures out dat orb"). In DS9 they just like... transport over to the Mirror Universe willy nilly, with no special planetary storm happening or whatever caused it in the original TOS episode. It definitely feels like "oh hey lets just pop on over for a vacay cuz everyone is horny over there and Risa is too far away!" As for time travel, if they had stuck to one consistency of writing for it, like predestination/closed causality loops, or very definitely 'changing the past causes an alternate dimension, but it doesn't change our future'-- then it would make since why the Federation/big powers didn't gently caress around with it. No matter what you would do it wouldn't affect yourself or 'change the future.' Then again you have to be a real slick scifi writer to do a predestination story well as it doesn't really cause a lot of GOOD DRAMA if "oh I guess it was all meant to work out okay" IE: "Hey the Borg went into that time hole, but nothing looks changed? I guess it all worked out!" rather than "OH NO THE EARTH ALL RUSTY NOW WE MUST FIX IT!" ... Still better writing than "oh it all reset and I guess we ~just forgot~ all of the previous episode!"
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Apr 5, 2021 16:14
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jeeves posted:Yeah, Mirror Universe shenanigans were way more egregious in DS9 than most time travel stories (except in TOS or for the end of Trials and Tribulations where Kira "just figures out dat orb"). Also "we somehow forgot that cold-starting the warp core will lead to time-travel so instead we must slingshot around stars or mess with chronitons"
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Apr 5, 2021 16:16
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Angry_Ed posted:Also "we somehow forgot that cold-starting the warp core will lead to time-travel so instead we must slingshot around stars or mess with chronitons" I know the episode is not meant to be taken seriously, but I always just love the “and Kira just kinda figured it out and now we’re home!” of ~Orb Time Travelz~ I mean it couldn’t be that hard if that Klingon dingus figured it out first, right?
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Apr 5, 2021 16:22
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Also, doesn't TOS imply that casual time travel is a basic anthropological tool? Like they just bounce over to the 1960s for research purposes.
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Apr 5, 2021 16:29
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Sash! posted:Also, doesn't TOS imply that casual time travel is a basic anthropological tool? Like they just bounce over to the 1960s for research purposes. Oh yeah that too "we've traveled back in time to figure out how the gently caress we didn't nuke ourselves into oblivion in 1968 but also there's a Time Lord here what a coincidence" And that was apparently done via slingshot effect. jeeves posted:I know the episode is not meant to be taken seriously, but I always just love the “and Kira just kinda figured it out and now we’re home!” of ~Orb Time Travelz~ To be fair that's wormhole alien science and therefore who knows how it actually works other than "it just does" Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 5, 2021 17:00
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There's nothing that actually says that the Feds don't know a whole bunch of ways to time travel through most of the serieses, they just keep them all secret. I figure Temporal Investigations has like 50 different time machines in the basement.
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Apr 5, 2021 17:10
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MikeJF posted:There's nothing that actually says that the Feds don't know a whole bunch of ways to time travel through most of the serieses, they just keep them all secret. I figure Temporal Investigations has like 50 different time machines in the basement.
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Apr 5, 2021 17:45
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V-Men posted:
You mean a spaceship of people appearing through a temporal rift is a good narrative (and in-universe) justification for a big problem to be solved using time travel???
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Apr 5, 2021 17:46
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Somewhere on the edge of the alpha quadrant the crew of the USS Bozeman B is living a hellish existence in a war with a minor federation enemy that would not have happened if the Enterprise sent Captain Batesman back through the rift where he belonged.
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Apr 5, 2021 17:59
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Somewhere on the edge of the alpha quadrant the crew of the USS Bozeman B is living a hellish existence in a war with a minor federation enemy that would not have happened if the Enterprise sent Captain Batesman back through the rift where he belonged. Captain Bateson wakes up in Seattle in the early 1990s with no memory of how he got there
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Apr 5, 2021 18:07
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I was going to make a joke about Lilith being Q but every gif I google is webp now and I can't upload those to imgur so ffff
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Apr 5, 2021 18:14
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Looks like the people in charge are doing a stream of panels for first contact day https://www.startrek.com/firstcontact They're streaming some select episodes and then the panels will start at 3 EST 3 p.m. ET - A presentation (and a special announcement) by Patrick Stewart. Wil Wheaton hosts. 3:12 p.m. ET - The cast of “Star Trek: First Contact” revisit the film and examine its impact on the “Star Trek” Universe, 25 years after its release. The event will feature Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner, Alice Krige, and Jonathan Frakes. Wil Wheaton hosts. 3:46 p.m. ET - Creating First Contact: A focus on the essential, behind-the-scenes cast and crew who bring to life the strange new worlds of Star Trek. These panelists discuss how the collaboration between creature design, make-up, costuming, photography, VFX, and more. The panel will feature Gersha Phillips, Jason Zimmerman, Neville Page, and James Mackinnon. Mica Burton hosts. 4:14 p.m. - The “Women in Motion” panel will feature a look at the historic importance of actress Nichelle Nichols, and how this shaped not only the universe of “Star Trek” but also her impact on science and culture as a whole. This panel will include Sonequa Martin-Green, Isa Briones, Dawnn Lewis, and Michelle Hurd, with Mica Burton hosting. 4:45 p.m. ET - In “Second Contact,” a look at some of the hilarious b-story lines over the years have led to recent moments and series like “Star Trek: Lower Decks.” The panel will feature Paul F. Tompkins, Mike McMahan, Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner, and Wil Wheaton as host. 5:24 p.m. ET - Captain Kathryn Janeway herself appears to discuss the upcoming series “Star Trek: Prodigy.” The panel will feature Kate Mulgrew, Dan Hageman, Keven Hageman, and Mica Burton as host.
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Apr 5, 2021 18:29
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I will forever be amused that Admiral Janeway went ahead and wiped out 20 years of a peaceful timeline because... Seven died and Tuvok had space dementia? Is Janeway responsible for why the future depicted in Picard is so dark and depressing? Everything was going along nicely on the optimistic TNG timeline, and then Janeway had to give herself future Borg weapons?
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Apr 5, 2021 19:06
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Lol originally the federation got the evacuation fleet to Romulus successfully because they didn't have synth slaves because they were too busy with Borg stuff.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:10
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jeeves posted:I know the episode is not meant to be taken seriously, but I always just love the “and Kira just kinda figured it out and now we’re home!” of ~Orb Time Travelz~ It's especially funny because when the Orb of Time shows up again in the episode with Kira's mom it's implied to work completely differently e: though i like the explanation that the Prophets just wanted to give Sisko the chance to meet his hero
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Apr 5, 2021 19:18
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crossposting from the Modern Trek thread: there is an explicit character reveal but I am infinitely more interested in the implications of one of the other parts of the teaser
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Apr 5, 2021 20:32
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Sash! posted:Or you just set extremely rigid rules for how to do the time reset. Like... If you can't figure out what caused the problem and how to solve it within a few days, there is no do over. Also you can only go back in time seven days.
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Apr 5, 2021 21:11
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Sash! posted:Also, doesn't TOS imply that casual time travel is a basic anthropological tool? Like they just bounce over to the 1960s for research purposes. It's worth noting that the episode in which this happened, Assignment: Earth, was written specifically and purposely as a backdoor pilot to try and pitch a Gary Seven series. That said, I do feel like the various times the Enterprise got flung into the past in the first season almost seem like they were trying to setup for possible future "we went back in time for research or whatever" episodes.
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Apr 5, 2021 21:20
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Snow Cone Capone posted:crossposting from the Modern Trek thread: Which part - the Bajoran apocalypse prophecy-disk thing?
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Apr 5, 2021 21:55
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Aidan_702 posted:Which part - the Bajoran apocalypse prophecy-disk thing? yep!
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Apr 5, 2021 21:57
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V-Men posted:Also you can only go back in time seven days. As I recall, that was because the time machine was a janky piece of crap and they barely had any fuel for it in the first place
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Apr 5, 2021 22:24
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https://www.startrek.com/videos/watch-a-star-trek-discovery-first-look-season-four Discovery S4 out this year, Picard out next year. Looks like the worlds ending in Discovery again and only Burnham can save them.
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Apr 5, 2021 22:32
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Lower Decks already renewed for a third season. I still can't get over the goofy cartoon TNG semi-spoof being the only new Trek show I'm actually excited about.
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Apr 5, 2021 22:59
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Trailer for Season 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLcErfzHuc Love that Riker has his own type of analogies involving JAZZ.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:00
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Aidan_702 posted:Which part - the Bajoran apocalypse prophecy-disk thing? It’s always an apocalypse isn’t it.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:12
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I’ve been watching a lot of Klingon DS9 episodes lately and I feel like there’s probably a goldmine of outtakes where they need a Klingon crew to sing. There’s no way all these bit actors are getting those lines right on the first try.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:38
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bull3964 posted:Trailer for Season 2. The crew of the Melbourne are all suddenly thankful they ate it at Wolf-359 rather than have to endure Captain Jazz Metaphors over here.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:56
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Martytoof posted:I’ve been watching a lot of Klingon DS9 episodes lately and I feel like there’s probably a goldmine of outtakes where they need a Klingon crew to sing. There’s no way all these bit actors are getting those lines right on the first try. Don't need to get them right, usually they're supposed to be drunk in those scenes so as long as the tune is right everything's fine.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:59
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I wonder what percentage of Paramount PLUS’ revenue is being propped up by the Trek franchise? I can’t imagine that poo poo is doing well otherwise
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Apr 6, 2021 00:11
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jeeves posted:I wonder what percentage of Paramount PLUS’ revenue is being propped up by the Trek franchise? Probably most of it. About the same ratio that The Mandalorian was propping up Disney+ before the MCU TV shows debuted on it, I'd wager. Though apparently Discovery's entire production budget is basically paid for by Netflix as a part of its deal with Paramount to license the show, so any revenue it draws in on any other platform is basically gravy for CBS.
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Apr 6, 2021 00:15
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We will see what Trek brings us soon but let me call attention to an all time great: Far Beyond the Stars What an episode...
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Apr 6, 2021 00:31
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Snow Cone Capone posted:crossposting from the Modern Trek thread: gently caress yes Thanos!
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Apr 6, 2021 00:34
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nine-gear crow posted:Though apparently Discovery's entire production budget is basically paid for by Netflix as a part of its deal with Paramount to license the show This was only said by Les Moonves regarding the first season of Discovery. We have absolutely zero knowledge of how well CBS All Access / Paramount+ is doing and how much of Discovery's budget is driven by subscriber numbers.
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Apr 6, 2021 00:43
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Bucswabe posted:I will forever be amused that Admiral Janeway went ahead and wiped out 20 years of a peaceful timeline because... Seven died and Tuvok had space dementia? Jake apparently wiped out a timeline where the Dominion War never happened, and then his dad abandoned him anyway!
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Apr 6, 2021 03:42
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Angry Salami posted:Jake apparently wiped out a timeline where the Dominion War never happened, and then his dad abandoned him anyway! Lmao yeah
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Apr 6, 2021 03:44
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bull3964 posted:Trailer for Season 2. Some time ago, I caught the first episode (I think) of Lower Decks on Comedy Central, or some other basic cable network. Was that just a fluke, is the show ever going to be on regular cable? (I mean at some point in the next year or two, not running in syndicated reruns 10 years from now, if cable TV still exists in 10 years). I'm super salty about all the "good" content being stripped from broadcast TV and basic cable to try to make me subscribe to even more bullshit, when my cable/internet/phone bill is already bigger than my loving car payment.
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Apr 6, 2021 05:17
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Lower Decks has never been on anything other than streaming. You could just, you know, drop the cable since nothing good is on it anyways. This way is much better. I get higher quality stuff, without commercials and I can spend $10 and watch my fill and cancel the service until they have something I want to watch again.
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bull3964 posted:Lower Decks has never been on anything other than streaming. The first episode aired on Comedy Central in late February or early March.
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