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timn posted:The Terran Protectorate is weird because on the one hand everything you said is true, but on the other hand the entire premise of the Solborn Militia is that it's this new progressive program open to other races to help engender trust. In fact most of the Terrans' pouting seems to be specifically about the other humans in the galaxy. Would they loosen up more if they weren't so preoccupied by their superiority complex over the ANT and the ARG? Or would they still be pouting in their isolated corner of the galaxy anyway? It's kind of interesting that there doesn't appear to be actual, like, racism in the X series. At least not in the ones I played. Everything cuts along actual faction lines and the argons and the terrans are almost entirely separate, despite being both humans. The factions are all caricatures for the most part but there's no like, human supremacist organization and the argon are historically best friends with the fish people. Although the idea of the terrans as this sort of, not entirely politically unified entity and the terran CIA spinning up a bunch of weird programs with its budget that it doesn't really know what to do with is also quite funny and apt 
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I wonder how many thousands of pages the X book series devotes to the various protagonists loving off for a thousand hours making a station empire?quote:It's kind of interesting that there doesn't appear to be actual, like, racism in the X series. At least not in the ones I played. The Paranid almost are but even then it's played as more condescension towards anything that's not them
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Apr 6, 2021 02:23
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Also there appears to be little that the paranid hate in X4 more than other paranid.
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OwlFancier posted:It's kind of interesting that there doesn't appear to be actual, like, racism in the X series. At least not in the ones I played. Everything cuts along actual faction lines and the argons and the terrans are almost entirely separate, despite being both humans. The factions are all caricatures for the most part but there's no like, human supremacist organization and the argon are historically best friends with the fish people. I think the Split would arguably qualify as racist against humans in general, but like you said it's portrayed more as factional (political) conflict rather than racial (social) conflict. I suspect Egosoft is intentionally riding a very careful line with their writing here. They utilize some real world sociopolitical issues as fodder for their simple light-hearted storytelling, but they avoid slicing into those issues too deeply because the game isn't meant to be serious social commentary piece. And yet in X4 they've worked in some interesting subtle stuff still without being overtly political. It's an astonishingly delicate balance for what is ostensibly just window dressing on a German space-economics sim.
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What is the trick to the new missions for Rick Feynmann, specifically Gravimetric Studies? It has you position three ships in specific locations, and then the game tells you 'Long Range Scan now' as your objective. I assumed that meant turn on Long Range Scan mode, so I activated it, and then...nothing. I thought maybe I had to wait, so I walked away from the computer for like 20 minutes and got a snack. Came back, nothing. All three ships are bumping into their respective nav beacons, Long Range Scan mode is on, still nothing. Do I have to be looking at a specific point in the sky? The dialogue does say something about 'being precise'. Just in case it was some kind of one-off bug I went ahead and tried the same mission again on a completely different playthrough, reached the same point, and, again, nothing.
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Apr 6, 2021 04:39
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Did you fire off a scan? Long range mode doesn't do anything on it's own Also what's the bridge between a bunch of miners and a station? I'm building my own but I don't have the income to get it up at a respectable pace. (Partially because I keep buying stupid poo poo for myself - katana! Woo!)
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Mister Bates posted:What is the trick to the new missions for Rick Feynmann, specifically Gravimetric Studies? It has you position three ships in specific locations, and then the game tells you 'Long Range Scan now' as your objective. I assumed that meant turn on Long Range Scan mode, so I activated it, and then...nothing. I thought maybe I had to wait, so I walked away from the computer for like 20 minutes and got a snack. Came back, nothing. All three ships are bumping into their respective nav beacons, Long Range Scan mode is on, still nothing. Do I have to be looking at a specific point in the sky? The dialogue does say something about 'being precise'. U gotta press l to scan
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Are you taking one of the 3 locations? Did you actually do a pulse? Worked just fine for me. Park a ship in 2 of the spots, then you take the third, and he tells you to do a long range pulse, and the other two do it with you.
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Did you fire your long range scan or just put it in long range scan mode? It's a thing you hold down the button to charge up and then fires when you release. If you hold it too long it over charges and doesn't fire.
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Apr 6, 2021 04:49
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I have played this game for 300 hours and had absolutely no idea that was a thing  Thanks!
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Apr 6, 2021 04:51
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What did you think the long range scan mode did..?
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OwlFancier posted:What did you think the long range scan mode did..? Seriously why is it its own mode for that instead of just a key press or menu option like scan is to start with
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Trenchdeep posted:Also what's the bridge between a bunch of miners and a station? I'm building my own but I don't have the income to get it up at a respectable pace. (Partially because I keep buying stupid poo poo for myself - katana! Woo!) Player income wise? Robbing pirate factions of their ships and more trading I guess.
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Apr 6, 2021 05:28
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RBA Starblade posted:Seriously why is it its own mode for that instead of just a key press or menu option like scan is to start with Same reason afterburners drain your shields and pilots take real-life centuries to fully train. :eurojank:
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Tabletops posted:U gotta press l to scan R for me. Maybe both work
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RBA Starblade posted:Seriously why is it its own mode for that instead of just a key press or menu option like scan is to start with I agree that it doesn't need to be its own mode (though it was in Rebirth and that game made a lot of effort to work with a gamepad, so that may be why) but it literally does nothing unless you ping so I'm just curious what people thought it did if they didn't know you could ping.
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Until this mission came up I had honestly forgotten it even existed, I think I saw it while mapping controls to my HOTAS but didn't know what it did or how it worked. I still don't know what it does, but I did manage to complete the mission with it, at least.
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It is very useful for locating station clusters in sectors, first thing I do when mapping a sector is do a sick travel drive drift through the gate then turn on the scanner and ping in all directions to get the main stations on the map.
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Apr 6, 2021 06:21
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/483330/X3_Farnhams_Legacy/ …huh.
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Apr 6, 2021 12:06
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Lol a new X3 expansion.
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Apr 6, 2021 12:06
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Watched the trailer... no idea what to make of it
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Apr 6, 2021 12:26
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Ughhh one of my traders died and I look to see what happens and here's an Xenon I again. drat it. EDIT: if I want to like, do something about this, but not personally, would i want to, like, assign some ships to keep various shipyards/wharfs supplied, or do Argon vs Xenon mission, or what? What will make the AI factions better able and/or more likely to actually try to deal with this? Zereth fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Excluding VRO, is there a mod that adds some more weapon variety or that differentiates the faction-specific items further? I've been playing starsector recently and coming back to X4 makes me miss the variety of things you could use in that game (I know, difference genre but hey ), since other than some weapons, the Mk 3 M shields, and terran engine charge times, most are just minor stat differences.Trenchdeep posted:Did you fire off a scan? Long range mode doesn't do anything on it's own Killing Xenons (or helping out with one of those expeditions you get messages about) is decent money since they drop stuff for space caviar and the AGI components are all pretty pricey. If it's a matter of trying to build an expensive station, you can always start with a small solar plant that you can expand over time (Brennan's Triumph is a good place for this if you started as a terran). I also bought a katana before bothering with stations, and it was the best "investment" I made, that thing is stupidly fast with a drag reduction mod and can actually take some hits (not from Xenon stations though). edit: patrol missions can also be decent money if you can actually kill enemies during your patrol. Don't do what I did at one point and take patrol missions in Neptune/Asteroid Belt where absolutely nothing will attack you in most cases. Falcorum fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Mokotow posted:Watched the trailer... no idea what to make of it Actually apparently not? Huh.
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the feature list is pretty cool. i might give it a try
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Rick Feynmann is apparently dead in my game, since the quest to talk to him is not giving me instructions. I'm pretty sure the ship got shot by Yaki when they got allied with me and started using my HQ to build ships and attack everyone. I've no clue what to do about this - I finished that particular mission-chain in another play-through, but I kinda wanna play it again, including that frustrating puzzle.
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Speaking of is the fighter that mission chain gives you a good one? I mean it's by far my fastest ship but how much of that is just having mk3 split engines?
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I don't know if I can go back to X3's UI at this point.
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Apr 6, 2021 13:56
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Oh, I guess I am going back to X3 lmao
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big nipples big life posted:I don't know if I can go back to X3's UI at this point. Yeah same, although I am curious to see what they did with the station/complex building.
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Zereth posted:Speaking of is the fighter that mission chain gives you a good one? I mean it's by far my fastest ship but how much of that is just having mk3 split engines? It's also got four mountpoints for some serious dakka. Another way to get it is to get allied with the Yaki, which you can achieve through the Terran questline, with a bit of planning.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:13
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It's free if you own AP so I will definitely give it a shot.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The Moreya? It's insanely quick with the right engines and mods, probably the most responsive ship you can get, and can keep up with the fastest Xenon ships.
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Did some reading on earlier games apparently the race that made the gates convinced the galaxy to spare the biggest Xenon cpu done it was about to become self aware, I wonder how that's going. Or what that race with "star system sized ships" is up to, there's some real weird stuff in the background
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yeah sign me up to try that new X3 expac out. i never got into X3 really, but i want to try litcube and all that out since it sounds cool. ill use this to figure the game out and then give litcube a try out after.
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Wow a new X3 pack, way out of left field. Good thing I no longer have to decide between mayhem and litcube. I hope they integrate and streamline the bonus script stuff, all that CLS/CAG stuff was very confusing to me.
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RBA Starblade posted:Or what that race with "star system sized ships" is up to, there's some real weird stuff in the background These dudes were from another dimension entirely and all the ones that came over here are dead now because the gate builders had to give em what for If you buy into certain egoforums theories the Hub from X3 is actually one of said dudes' ships and not a xenon construction.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:51
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BTW if you haven't noticed, Farnham's Legacy is free, but they have a donation pack you can buy instead to donate to Doctors Without Borders if you want to!
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I’m deeply curious what they’ve done in this new pack. If they managed to port over some of the RTS elements of X4 map control I’ll have a hard time deciding which to play. This is truly bizarre. I wonder if the team just has a deep fondness for X3’s engine. This was also a deft time to release it.
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And why is this free? I'm sure everyone who would be interested in this already owns X3:AP. Do they expect to get some X4 sales out of this in some roundabout way?
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