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Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Chairman Capone posted:

Watching the HBO QAnon documentary, it made me laugh when they showed the guy who runs the Q account but denies it had a big poster of Star Trek Q in his room.

I tapped out on that thing, I kept getting this gross feeling that the documentary was kinda trying to portray the 8chan guys as "cool" rather than the tremendously harmful assholes they are

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Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Simone Magus posted:

I tapped out on that thing, I kept getting this gross feeling that the documentary was kinda trying to portray the 8chan guys as "cool" rather than the tremendously harmful assholes they are

It doesn't glamorize them at all. The first episode plays into the folksy facade of each of the 8ch owners then every subsequent episode has pulled out an "oh btw these people are extremely awful" moment of some kind, culminating in the guy that is Q slipping up and admitting it at the end. It's not the greatest docuseries but it's nowhere near the level of hagiography that the Vow turned out to be.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Simone Magus posted:

I tapped out on that thing, I kept getting this gross feeling that the documentary was kinda trying to portray the 8chan guys as "cool" rather than the tremendously harmful assholes they are

Uh, not even close. The documentary is pretty clear about them being skeezy, hypocritical, anti-Semitic perverts who don't give a poo poo about anything except their own power and being willing to see people die to keep the approval of online racists.

One of the episodes directly catches on tape the elder Watkins bragging to his right-wing grifter lawyer about how they programmed in code to 8chan that turns Jewish names into the Israeli flag colors, the lawyer looking uncomfortable and telling him that he's Jewish, and Watkins immediately responding, "I know, I can tell from your features."

They repeatedly show Ron Watkins being a porn addict who can't even drive his car without having porn playing and can't talk to a woman without demeaning her.

I can't even imagine the mindset of watching the show's depiction of the Watkinses and thinking, "Wow, they're cool!" unless you happened to already be in their 8chan demographic.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/VinceMancini/status/1379467083214323715

Can someone tell me if Cyborg says booyah in either JL cut

It was in the theatrical one.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Nundizo posted:

https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1379180145609748490?s=21
lol david simon and piers morgan going at it today

lmao at WW being better than loving anythign let alone the wire

Doom2020!
Dec 31, 2020

If you think this has a happy ending then you really haven't been paying attention

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/VinceMancini/status/1379467083214323715

Can someone tell me if Cyborg says booyah in either JL cut
Whedon cut and it sounds just as goofy and out of place as you would think. I say this as someone who loved Teen Titans as a kid.

bull3964 posted:

Apparently only 38% of people that started Justice League finished it within a week.

I watched that thing all the way at least 3 times and know a thread with a decent amount of traffic. I know we are goons and all but can't imagine that many checked it out only to nope. Maybe I'm wrong and just don't want the whedon cut to be proven right.


Chairman Capone posted:

Uh, not even close. The documentary is pretty clear about them being skeezy, hypocritical, anti-Semitic perverts who don't give a poo poo about anything except their own power and being willing to see people die to keep the approval of online racists.

One of the episodes directly catches on tape the elder Watkins bragging to his right-wing grifter lawyer about how they programmed in code to 8chan that turns Jewish names into the Israeli flag colors, the lawyer looking uncomfortable and telling him that he's Jewish, and Watkins immediately responding, "I know, I can tell from your features."

They repeatedly show Ron Watkins being a porn addict who can't even drive his car without having porn playing and can't talk to a woman without demeaning her.

I can't even imagine the mindset of watching the show's depiction of the Watkinses and thinking, "Wow, they're cool!" unless you happened to already be in their 8chan demographic.

Backing this up. Watched the whole thing and in no way were anyone related to 8chan or Q shown to be functional good people. About the only person with any decent intentions was the OG Anonymous guy and he was very loudly repulsed by Gamergate and all the chuds stealing his tactics. The legions of Q are just like you would think: lunatics or the grifters playing them. It was a decent doc but really wished it had gone more into the build up to the 6th as well as the epilogue to all of that. I was saddened it only briefly touched on how Q has grossly infected and radicalized the religious and conservative parties in america as that is legit terrifying and will have long term effects with even higher of a bodycount. Was glad it had some time focused on Christchurch as people have probably forgotten about that with all the insanity of the past couple of years. Glad it came about as when the proper Q doc comes in about a decade they will have some nice footage to yank from. That is IF the world doesn't get cleansed in the holy fire from Trumpika.

edit:

Aardvark! posted:

i watched the west wing while Bush was president and i didnt read any political forums or anything but was ostensibly liberal, and it was addictive. there is some appeal to the People Owning Eachother With Facts and Logic genre imo.
However now that I'm not 19 any more I don't think I could ever watch it again. An experience lost to time.
Editing to stop derail. Sorry I was way oversimplifying and apologize profusely. What I should have said is that it feels even crazier now than in the past but that is just my limited point of view. Things were terrible back in the day as my parents gladly tell me but current politics really scare the poop out of me; especially after just finishing the Q doc. All this super crazy talk by the far right really does make me feel unsettled. I apologize my careless and ignorant words caused a derail that has no place in TVIV. I was wrong and hope we can talk about cool tv shows and I will go away for a while.

Doom2020! fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Apr 6, 2021

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
i watched the west wing while Bush was president and i didnt read any political forums or anything but was ostensibly liberal, and it was addictive. there is some appeal to the People Owning Eachother With Facts and Logic genre imo.

However now that I'm not 19 any more I don't think I could ever watch it again. An experience lost to time.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I think the last couple seasons hold up better than the Sorkin years. Though it's just as much a fantasy since you have a Democratic President reaching across the aisle to appoint a Republican Secretary of State. Also the Democrat is from Texas and Republican is from California.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Doom2020! posted:

If you want depressing lols check out the Trump thread in GBS. We live in interesting times.

lol

ive been ik/mod of that thread for almost a year now

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Doom2020! posted:

edit:

For once it really is not you and it really was a "better" age.

In the same way that the mythical 1950s were the idyllic good old days for chuds, sure.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Yeah, they just hid the poo poo better back then. A more intact veneer doesn't make the age better, it's worse for pretending that it is.

Doom2020!
Dec 31, 2020

If you think this has a happy ending then you really haven't been paying attention

IRQ posted:

In the same way that the mythical 1950s were the idyllic good old days for chuds, sure.

bull3964 posted:

Yeah, they just hid the poo poo better back then. A more intact veneer doesn't make the age better, it's worse for pretending that it is.

Heh... oh they still wanted me or my kind dead, in jail or knowing our place but there were also less people in positions of government that believed in jewish space lasers or cleansing the world in holy fire. British government loving sucks/ is terrible and incompetent in every way but American government actually scares me a little. I miss the days when nazis were just punchlines to jokes or nothing you took that seriously. I fluctuate between feeling hopeful because people my age and younger SEEM less tied to racism and genuinely want the world to become a better place but also anxious because Gen X and Boomers sense their era is ending and are using 40k speak in real life and drooling over the apocalypse. Yeah it was never a great world but these past few years felt like they turned the dial up on crazy. Meh...sorry to cause a brief derail. Probably doesn't help I JUST finished the Q doc and jesus... those 8chan guys getting away with fomenting and weaponizing all this chaos and getting to slink away is aggravating. Sorry again.

Doom2020! fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Apr 6, 2021

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


For anyone that doesn't follow the thread, tomorrow there's going to be another MST3K Kickstarter.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mu Zeta posted:

I think the last couple seasons hold up better than the Sorkin years. Though it's just as much a fantasy since you have a Democratic President reaching across the aisle to appoint a Republican Secretary of State. Also the Democrat is from Texas and Republican is from California.

Someone tabulated Bartlett's accomplishments and it was mostly cutting Social Security and not going to War.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Doom2020! posted:

For once it really is not you and it really was a "better" age. There are tons of articles about how political business has changed in the past couple of decades. Things were bad and messed up but there was this air of civility and half the stuff that certain parties do nowadays would get them laughed out of office. There are periods in the past where some people said insane things but it was never the general party stance. If you want depressing lols check out the Trump thread in GBS. We live in interesting times.

Gingrinch's Contract with America and Rush Limbaugh controlling the national conversation, while any real leftist positions were smothered by third way corportate giveaways. Black people were being dragged behind trucks and shot without reprecussions (i mean, some things didn't change).

We had the head of the republican senate say that Storm thurmond should have been president, and republican candidates say that they only believe in "legitimate rape".

The Bush administration wanted to bring christianity to the middle east and 21 year old graduates of evangelical universities ran national and international policy.

Lol, better age. At least now there's a viable and visible opposition. The protests against the Iraq War were the biggest on record, and it didn't blip on the national discourse. Today, it would have been alot bigger.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Shageletic posted:

Someone tabulated Bartlett's accomplishments and it was mostly cutting Social Security and not going to War.

Life imitates art I guess, at least with the catastrophically low standards audiences have set for liberal politicians.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Shageletic posted:

Someone tabulated Bartlett's accomplishments and it was mostly cutting Social Security and not going to War.

But what about their secret plan to fight inflation?

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Nundizo posted:

https://twitter.com/aodespair/status/1379180145609748490?s=21
lol david simon and piers morgan going at it today

What is this "Pratfall" he refers to?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Everyone hated his CNN show and it was cancelled

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Chairman Capone posted:

Uh, not even close. The documentary is pretty clear about them being skeezy, hypocritical, anti-Semitic perverts who don't give a poo poo about anything except their own power and being willing to see people die to keep the approval of online racists.

I just meant in the literal way the series is edited or whatever. I dunno, it's hard to explain. :shrug:

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

how good was season 1 of Homeland? I remember it owning but I could he wrong

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Google Butt posted:

how good was season 1 of Homeland? I remember it owning but I could he wrong

It was very good right until the end.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
Season 2 was worth watching purely for its willingness to blow up the whole premise of the show, but I dipped out at the end of that.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

It turns into a fun globe trotting spy show after that. That Russian spy from The Americans plays a Russian spy again.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Mu Zeta posted:

It turns into a fun spy show after that.

Eventually. Season 3 is not strong.

But the later parts of the show are really great.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

I still need to go back and finish Homeland one day. I watched the first episode of the second-to-last season then fell behind and never forced myself to catch up.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
edit: nvm

Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

Open Source Idiom posted:

Eventually. Season 3 is not strong.

But the later parts of the show are really great.

First season and half of season two are absolute top tier TV. Rest of season two and all of season three are bad, then the rest is good, but more in a 24 way than a serious drama.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

It was very good right until the end.

Yep. Shoulda gone through with it.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Homeland could've been one of the best one season shows ever if it had ended that way

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1379476058429399043

Huh turns out Jeopardy fans, who know many facts and statistics, don't like the snake oil salesman

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1379476058429399043

Huh turns out Jeopardy fans, who know many facts and statistics, don't like the snake oil salesman

Holy poo poo what were they thinking.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

MiddleOne posted:

Holy poo poo what were they thinking.

TV executives do not think.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
https://twitter.com/PeterNHess/status/1379827183359774722?s=20

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

What Law and Order spinoff deals with dudes smuggling that much cake

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Shageletic posted:

Someone tabulated Bartlett's accomplishments and it was mostly cutting Social Security and not going to War.

Did Bartlett ever have a democratically controlled congress?

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
Anderson Cooper would be the best jeopardy host, why not do that

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Because Levar Burton would be the best Jeopardy host

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Simone Magus posted:

Anderson Cooper would be the best jeopardy host, why not do that

He's got a guest host spot on Jeopardy next month.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

zoux posted:

Because Levar Burton would be the best Jeopardy host

He's on the list of people who if accused of being sex pests would truly break my heart.

Pretty sure he took no salary or payment for Reading Rainbow because he thought encouraging childhood literacy was so important. I think he even financed it himself early on.

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