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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fun Fact: Olivia Munn was originally cast as Vanessa in Deadpool, but turned it down and managed to negotiate her way into playing Psylocke in Apocalypse. Sadly Vanessa got fridged on Deadpool 2. It was a big disappointment that the writers went that way. Edit: I know they did the whole time travel thing at the end, but I still don't know if she'll be back for future movies. Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fun Fact: Olivia Munn was originally cast as Vanessa in Deadpool, but turned it down and managed to negotiate her way into playing Psylocke in Apocalypse. It's not like Vanessa has had a lot to do in either Deadpool movie, beyond serve as a source of motivation. If/when Marvel get around to making a Deadpool 3 she'll hopefully have more to do there, given she's in a relationship with Deadpool after he went back in time to save her, but I wouldn't hold my breath it'll be a major part at the same time given she's a normal human in a superhero film. She might get a role of similar size to or replace the taxi driver or the old woman as a source of humor, and that's probably it. Also, it's not like Psylocke has a lot of costume choices; though in saying that I looked it up to see what choices there are for comics based ones, and she had a bodysuit in X-Force that looks pretty cool. I've no idea when that was though, or how popular it is.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:40
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tsob posted:It's not like Vanessa has had a lot to do in either Deadpool movie, beyond serve as a source of motivation. If/when Marvel get around to making a Deadpool 3 she'll hopefully have more to do there, given she's in a relationship with Deadpool after he went back in time to save her, but I wouldn't hold my breath it'll be a major part at the same time given she's a normal human in a superhero film. She might get a role of similar size to or replace the taxi driver or the old woman as a source of humor, and that's probably it. Also, it's not like Psylocke has a lot of costume choices; though in saying that I looked it up to see what choices there are for comics based ones, and she had a bodysuit in X-Force that looks pretty cool. I've no idea when that was though, or how popular it is. All true. It's just funny that her stated reasoning for turning it down was that she didn't want to be "eye candy" and wanted to be in a franchise with some longevity and then she plays Psylocke in the movie that put the franchise in a death kneel and her character just wanders away and is never addressed. And Deadpool will have more movies than Post-Apocalypse X-men.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:43
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The craziest thing is that they tried to do Apocalypse with makeup.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:45
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The Modern Leper posted:EDIT: So Falcon and Winter Soldier just isn't worth extended discussion, huh? I'm not sure it's a matter of "worth." I think it's very good; if it were a movie, it feels like it would be on pace to be on the higher end of the big-rear end ranked list. That being said, there just isn't that much to talk about. It's a pretty straight forward action story, and the mysteries the show does bring up aren't the sort that're conducive to the endless speculation of Wandavision. Frankly, because of that, I think this is going to end up being a better show, since it's less likely to gently caress up the landing the way Wandavision did.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:54
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tsob posted:Also, it's not like Psylocke has a lot of costume choices; though in saying that I looked it up to see what choices there are for comics based ones, and she had a bodysuit in X-Force that looks pretty cool. I've no idea when that was though, or how popular it is.  but she's had some solid new ones in the 2010s:   And Fortnite clearly took point from those:  So that's probably what an MCU version would go with, which makes sense. This is ignoring everything involving the Betsy/Kwannon stuff which I'd also bet cash on any MCU version avoiding because that stuff is a headache at best. live with fruit posted:The craziest thing is that they tried to do Apocalypse with makeup.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:55
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tsob posted:That'd mean no Logan and no Deadpool films, so I doubt you'll get much agreement with that. No core X-Men films? Sure, though I never saw anything after First Class (and I only saw that because a friend bought a ticket for me after I said I wasn't going to pay to see an X-Men film), but no films at all? Nope. That's what I meant, lol my bad. You should see Days of Future Past though, it is a very good film. Plus if you watch ignore the post credits scene it works as a good ending to the fox X-Men series.
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Apr 6, 2021 22:59
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live with fruit posted:The craziest thing is that they tried to do Apocalypse with makeup. They probably thought that's what the public wanted given the pedestal practical effects get put on.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:05
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To be fair at the time a lot of CGI was very hit or miss
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Cage Kicker posted:To be fair at the time a lot of CGI was very hit or miss It was a year after Ultron, who looked great.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:10
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live with fruit posted:It was a year after Ultron, who looked great. I doubt Fox was about to spend Disney money on Apocalypse
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Apr 6, 2021 23:17
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Cage Kicker posted:I doubt Fox was about to spend Disney money on Apocalypse According to Wikipedia, Age of Ultron cost twice as much as Apocalypse, which wow.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:27
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I'm not that shocked. The first Avengers was/is one of the highest grossing movies ever, and Age of Ultron looks hideously expensive, especially because they all took the critiques that Whedon can't block for poo poo (he can't) to heart and invested in visual specialists.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:29
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mind the walrus posted:I'm not that shocked. The first Avengers was/is one of the highest grossing movies ever, and Age of Ultron looks hideously expensive, especially because they all took the critiques that Whedon can't block for poo poo (he can't) to heart and invested in visual specialists. Yeah, Whedon essentially had a blank check to do whatever he wanted with Age of Ultron after The Avengers made more money than God. Then he wrote a script for Ultron that was like four and a half hours long, shot the entire loving thing, and then got pissed off at Disney when they told him he had to cut it down to a manageable runtime, ultimately quitting working with Marvel Studios because he was angry at them for making him edit his masterpiece down to two and a half hours and the movie being generally disliked by audiences and critics.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:38
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Timby posted:Yeah, Whedon essentially had a blank check to do whatever he wanted with Age of Ultron after The Avengers made more money than God. drat, #ReleaseTheWhedonCut
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Apr 6, 2021 23:42
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I can't even fathom a 4 hour Ultron movie, and I even liked the movie
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Apr 6, 2021 23:49
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I have no major beef with AoU but what does a four-hour cut of that movie even look like? What could possibly be so vital that was left out? I'm not sure I'm curious enough that I'd actually watch that cut, but still.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:52
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A lot more time with Thor on his vision quest I guess.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:58
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Firebert posted:I can't even fathom a 4 hour Ultron movie, and I even liked the movie Arist posted:I have no major beef with AoU but what does a four-hour cut of that movie even look like? What could possibly be so vital that was left out? There's some chunks of it on the Blu-Ray. Would have been interesting if they actually put all of the deleted scenes on there. There was a longer subplot where Thor and Stellen Skarsgard go on a vision quest and learn about Ragnarok and the Infinity stones. There is a cameo with Loki and Idris Elba. There''s a bunch of smaller scenes with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. There's a scene where Banner and Tony are having a conversation about where everything went wrong with Ultron. There's a scene where they look over everything they did in Ultron's code and expand on the idea that Ultron is perfect and wasn't made insane with a glitch or error and that the world made him insane. There were also a lot more scenes and romance subplot between Hulk and Black widow and another subplot with War Machine. The other ~1 hour and 45 minutes are lost somewhere in a Disney archive.
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It honestly doesn't sound like it would fix the fundamental lack of focus that plagues the theatrical release.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:59
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Whedon Cut when! Actually, I'm good.
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mind the walrus posted:It honestly doesn't sound like it would fix the fundamental lack of focus that plagues the theatrical release. They don't. I do wonder what is on the other hour and change that was shot and isn't on the blu-ray.
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I hope there's more stuff between Pietro and Clint because his sacrifice is very shoe-horned.
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It's just an hour of
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Semi-related old man complaint: I wish more Blu-rays, or even streaming services, included commentary tracks and all of the deleted scenes. Seems kind of silly to not put all of the deleted scenes on there. Some commentary tracks are priceless and better than the original movie, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahtp0sjA5U
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fun Fact: Olivia Munn was originally cast as Vanessa in Deadpool, but turned it down and managed to negotiate her way into playing Psylocke in Apocalypse. Wasn't this costume and absolute nightmare to work with/in as well? It was supposedly extremely tight fitting to the point Munn had to keep a strict diet and use grease to actually get in it? But even then it would rip apart if she moved in the wrong way which did result in a couple of embarrassing "wardrobe malfunctions" on set?
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MH Knights posted:Wasn't this costume and absolute nightmare to work with/in as well? It was supposedly extremely tight fitting to the point Munn had to keep a strict diet and use grease to actually get in it? But even then it would rip apart if she moved in the wrong way which did result in a couple of embarrassing "wardrobe malfunctions" on set? They had to coat almost all of Munn's body in lube to get the costume to fit, and the very first time she tried it on, her crotch popped out through the latex, revealing the way she groomed her genitals to the costume crew. I can't even begin to imagine how humiliating that was.
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This actually ties in okay with the current eye candy discussion, I was really surprised there were no sexy lady background dancers in Madripoor this last episode. drat near every club or fancy party scene I can think of shoehorns in a couple shots of some sexy lady dancing on a platform or whatever and honestly it was kind of nice to see a tv show not go that direction for once.
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MH Knights posted:Wasn't this costume and absolute nightmare to work with/in as well? It was supposedly extremely tight fitting to the point Munn had to keep a strict diet and use grease to actually get in it? But even then it would rip apart if she moved in the wrong way which did result in a couple of embarrassing "wardrobe malfunctions" on set? What the gently caress??
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mind the walrus posted:The FOX X-Men movies always had this aura of "why the gently caress did you do it that way?" Like not even in an angry way it just feels like no one really thought out the decisions beyond what would get the product out the door fastest.
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A fun way to frame AoU is that Ultron is a completely alien intelligence with an unfathomable agenda and the Spader personality is a “Chinese Room” it has constructed to interact with biologicals. That’s why it’s full of wacky one liners, pop culture references, and overly emotional. It’s basically a chatbot that has been corrupted by interacting with bizarre super people,
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Marsupial Ape posted:That’s why it’s full of wacky one liners, pop culture references, and overly emotional. Ehh, it might be a chatbot, but it's still a Stark™ chatbot: Klaue didn't recognize Ultron from Grumpy Cat, he recognized it from a patented wacky Tony one-liner. (....to be fair, the overly-emotional part may have come from Bruce, yes  )
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Solenna posted:This actually ties in okay with the current eye candy discussion, I was really surprised there were no sexy lady background dancers in Madripoor this last episode. drat near every club or fancy party scene I can think of shoehorns in a couple shots of some sexy lady dancing on a platform or whatever and honestly it was kind of nice to see a tv show not go that direction for once. That's one of the reasons to hire female directors.
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Zemo dancing in that jacket was all the eye candy we needed
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This show did however keep up the Marvel trend of getting the guys in gratuitous topless shots.
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Solenna posted:This actually ties in okay with the current eye candy discussion, I was really surprised there were no sexy lady background dancers in Madripoor this last episode. drat near every club or fancy party scene I can think of shoehorns in a couple shots of some sexy lady dancing on a platform or whatever and honestly it was kind of nice to see a tv show not go that direction for once. There is apparently more footage of Zemo dancing though, along with reactions from Bucky and Sam that didn't make it into the episode. That I would love to see as a deleted scene somewhere on Disney+.
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Its Rinaldo posted:Zemo dancing in that jacket was all the eye candy we needed
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Out of boredom, I just looked up the original comics biography of Baron Zeno. We better see some goddam Adhesive X before this is all over.
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seaborgium posted:There is apparently more footage of Zemo dancing though, along with reactions from Bucky and Sam that didn't make it into the episode. That I would love to see as a deleted scene somewhere on Disney+. That scene felt very jarring as edited so I would like to see that actually. It was just a quick jump to the dance party and all of sudden welp guys time to go with little actually happening. I wonder what was supposed to happen.
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At the very least it seems like Bucky is staring at something in particular just before they leave. Which was pointed enough that I rewound a bit to see if I'd missed what he's looking at, and there's nothing evident there. As such, I choose to believe he was entranced by Zemo's dancing 
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