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Data Graham posted:And now it's the iPhone store.
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I used the term "application" today and I was asked what that was, and I explained that "app" is a truncated form of "application" and I felt really old. What's a computer?
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jokes posted:What's a computer? https://youtu.be/RH1ekuvSYzE
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Data Graham posted:According to a Surface Pro ad I keep getting served, what they really need is to go full touchscreen!! Why can't they give you a whole touchscreen instead of just this little bitty bar?? You asked for it https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple-patents-keyboard-free-macbook-3803412/ Dont Touch ME fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 7, 2021 |
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jokes posted:I used the term "application" today and I was asked what that was, and I explained that "app" is a truncated form of "application" and I felt really old. I've been feeling old for that one since I was like, 22.
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Apr 7, 2021 03:15
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They've been using "app" for "application" since the 80s though, it's less about feeling old and more about feeling like some kind of boffin
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Apr 7, 2021 03:22
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It says "Applications" in Finder though
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Apr 7, 2021 03:57
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I personally use the search and my dock enough I haven’t looked in my applications folder in years.
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https://twitter.com/duanrui1205/status/1378721039086067714?s=20 And people say the M1's can't be upgraded. Sidenote, am I the only person who thinks the M1 looks like an SoC cut exactly in half? It would be really lol if the M2 reveal is just apple putting the other piece on this and being like "bam 16 core desktop".
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nerdrum posted:https://twitter.com/duanrui1205/status/1378721039086067714?s=20 Would be interesting if at least to see how moving the RAM off the die affects performance.
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Apr 7, 2021 05:24
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Yeah I'd want a RAM upgrade. 8GB doesn't seem like a lot.
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Apr 7, 2021 05:38
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Dont Touch ME posted:Would be interesting if at least to see how moving the RAM off the die affects performance. the ram is not on the chip die
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Apr 7, 2021 05:42
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mediaphage posted:the ram is not on the chip die It sure looks like it is
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jokes posted:I used the term "application" today and I was asked what that was, and I explained that "app" is a truncated form of "application" and I felt really old. This reminds me of my all-time favourite "never admit you're wrong on the internet" moment - someone who was mad at Apple for having the entire concept of "apps" named after their company, and mad at people for perpetuating this marketing nonsense by referring to Android programs as "apps" too. Ok sure, if you first heard the word "apps" in the context of the iPhone, then yeah you might think it's short for Apple. But it was swiftly and conclusively shown to this person that it had been short for "applications" long before the iPhone was even thought of, and they would not. Back. Down.
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nerdrum posted:Sidenote, am I the only person who thinks the M1 looks like an SoC cut exactly in half? It would be really lol if the M2 reveal is just apple putting the other piece on this and being like "bam 16 core desktop". Dont Touch ME posted:It sure looks like it is not if you know what you're looking at ok less snark:  See the green border? You can't see much of it because 99% of its surface is covered by other things, but that's an organic substrate. It's essentially a miniature printed circuit board on which one or more other devices are mounted. The silvery thing on the left side with an apple logo is a heatspreader. Just a piece of metal that's reasonably thermally conductive, glued on top of other things. Underneath the heatspreader (not visible) is the M1 System-on-Chip, a monolithic piece of silicon, aka the "die". It connects to the organic substrate through solder bumps, and to the heatspreader through some kind of thermal interface material. The two black plastic things on the right side are LPDDR4 memory packages. They connect to the organic substrate through solder balls. There are multiple LPDDR4 memory die inside each one of those black rectangles, with internal wiring of a different type than the main package. Apple buys whole LPDDR4 packages and solders them to the M1; this kind of thing is called "Package-on-Package" memory, or PoP. So no, the M1 memory isn't "on die", and nothing's been cut in half. You're just looking at a version of PoP which Apple's been using in iPads for a while now. (guess what M1's lineage is?)
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Bobstar posted:This reminds me of my all-time favourite "never admit you're wrong on the internet" moment - someone who was mad at Apple for having the entire concept of "apps" named after their company, and mad at people for perpetuating this marketing nonsense by referring to Android programs as "apps" too. Now with "podcasts" they might have a point (except I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apple who came up with the term there either)
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nerdrum posted:https://twitter.com/duanrui1205/status/1378721039086067714?s=20 Aren't those factory available options, and aren't there a couple ninja-skilled soldering places that will upgrade the fixed 8GB of RAM on the MBP's to 16GB?
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Anything is upgradeable if you can surface-mount solder. See: DosDude1 making crazy poo poo like a G4 Pismo
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Data Graham posted:Now with "podcasts" they might have a point (except I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apple who came up with the term there either) Did that term actually come from iPod? I’ve never thought about it before.
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CFox posted:Did that term actually come from iPod? I’ve never thought about it before. yup
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CFox posted:Did that term actually come from iPod? I’ve never thought about it before. yes I don’t know if Apple made it up as well, but they definitely began pushing it on iTunes starting in like ‘04-05 man, I still remember ‘04-06 era podcasts...basically the Ricky Gervais Show and nothing else and then video podcasts becoming a thing. channel frederator is where I saw Adventure Time like 2 years before it was out on Cartoon Network
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“iPod” + “Broadcast” = “Podcast”
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I know the term podcast predated the "Podcasts" item showing up in the sidebar of iTunes. It seemed at the time like it was just acknowledging a widespread term that even Zune users were grudgingly using by then
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Data Graham posted:I know the term podcast predated the "Podcasts" item showing up in the sidebar of iTunes. It seemed at the time like it was just acknowledging a widespread term that even Zune users were grudgingly using by then if you google about it it was coined by a guardian journo in 2k4
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Data Graham posted:I know the term podcast predated the "Podcasts" item showing up in the sidebar of iTunes. It seemed at the time like it was just acknowledging a widespread term that even Zune users were grudgingly using by then Early on, Apple came very close to carpet-bombing all of the "podcast" services and software programs with cease-and-desist letters for treading on Apple's trademarks, until someone said "hey, wait a minute, shouldn't we be downright thrilled that this entire new field of media has the name of one of our products encoded into it?" and they realized that podcast becoming the generic term for internet-delivered subscription audio shows was all upside for Apple.
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weirdo techsexperson leo laporte tried to push netcasts as an alternative iirc which obv did not take off
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mediaphage posted:weirdo techsexperson leo laporte tried to push netcasts as an alternative iirc which obv did not take off then he netcasted his dick all over the place
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Someone (I think it might have been Microsoft?) tried to claim that POD stood for 'portable on demand', and therefore couldn't be trademarked by Apple.
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Yeah well Microsoft also tried their damnedest to popularize the term "web" to mean "website", like as in "Microsoft IIS can host many webs on a single server, and each web is stored in its own folder" etc. Still gonna take a few more decades for me to get over the hubristic poo poo that was 90s Microsoft
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Bing it!
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Data Graham posted:Yeah well Microsoft also tried their damnedest to popularize the term "web" to mean "website", like as in "Microsoft IIS can host many webs on a single server, and each web is stored in its own folder" etc. Oh my god this is obscene
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mediaphage posted:weirdo techsexperson leo laporte tried to push netcasts as an alternative iirc which obv did not take off lol remember when TWiT tried to sue Twitter for infringement?
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Ok Comboomer posted:lol remember when TWiT tried to sue Twitter for infringement? Well TWiT did exist before "twttr" and Twitter agreed to not get into audio or video, which they ended up doing anyways.
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FCKGW posted:Well TWiT did exist before "twttr" and Twitter agreed to not get into audio or video, which they ended up doing anyways. yeah but also gently caress leo laporte
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Ok Comboomer posted:yeah but also gently caress leo laporte this but also literally nobody is going to confuse the two, which is important
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BobHoward posted:not if you know what you're looking at Nice rundown. I wonder what their reasoning is for not just incorporating the entire thing in a single die? Do they source their memory from external vendors?
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Dont Touch ME posted:Nice rundown. I wonder what their reasoning is for not just incorporating the entire thing in a single die? Do they source their memory from external vendors? It’s probably significantly cheaper.
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Dont Touch ME posted:Nice rundown. I wonder what their reasoning is for not just incorporating the entire thing in a single die? Do they source their memory from external vendors? There isn't any reasoning, it's just the way things work. Logic (microprocessors, GPUs, etc) and high density memories (DRAM, flash) are built using fundamentally incompatible manufacturing processes; you can't put both into one die.
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mediaphage posted:this but also literally nobody is going to confuse the two, which is important Leo’s fine what the hell.
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Data Graham posted:Yeah well Microsoft also tried their damnedest to popularize the term "web" to mean "website", like as in "Microsoft IIS can host many webs on a single server, and each web is stored in its own folder" etc. I was watching Babylon 5 last night and a character looked up some secret backchannel info on an "interweb."
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