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Doesn't Superman eat tornadoes?Torquemada posted:I think Bruce outright states he’s been Batman for 20 years at one point. Thank you.
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Kruller posted:The way Pa Kent dies in Man of Steel completely misses the point of what his death is supposed to teach Clark. It's supposed to teach him that he can't save everyone, because Pa Kent dies of a heart attack, not a loving tornado. The one in Man of Steel is teaching Clark something different. A lot of people mad about Man of Steel seem to be deducting points for it not being the movie they imagined in their head rather than engaging with what's actually on the screen.
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Apr 7, 2021 14:51
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Doesn't Superman eat tornadoes? He’s trying to cut back, they give him the spins.
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Apr 7, 2021 14:51
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The one in Man of Steel is teaching Clark something different. That and finding it impossible to empathise with non-humans, apparently.
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Apr 7, 2021 15:03
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Morpheus posted:Because Superman on his own isn't human, he's a force of nature. No, he is. That's the point of Superman and what good Superman stories get right.
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Apr 7, 2021 15:06
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Didn't he literally come from outer space? How is he human?
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Apr 7, 2021 15:08
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Didn't he literally come from outer space? How is he human? Kryptonians are physiologically different to humans, but they look like us and they think like us. Superman's whole story is about how he is human because his upbringing transcends his race.
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Apr 7, 2021 15:16
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But isn't his Superman suit literally his skin or something? And that's why you never see him naked?
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Apr 7, 2021 15:30
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My iimm about Man of Steel is that it isn't All Star Superman
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Apr 7, 2021 15:31
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Len posted:My iimm about Man of Steel is that it isn't All Star Superman  I have my issues with Man of Steel but I noticed those IIMM's softened over time. What I need to do is rewatch the Donner Superman and verify my initial opinions are from the movie itself and not the comics.
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Apr 7, 2021 15:58
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The one in Man of Steel is teaching Clark something different. This is being asked in good faith, because I really liked man of steel but I definitely disagreed with how Pa Kent died. A heart attack teaches Clark that despite having the power of a god, there are things he can't stop. The tornado teaches him..? My best attempt at it is that he must continue to hide himself because people will fear him even if he does good, which is borne out through the actions of some of the characters in the movie, but it ultimately seems that Pa Kent was wrong. So in your opinion, what did Pa Kent choosing to die teach him?
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Apr 7, 2021 16:02
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That sometimes your parents are loving morons lol
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Apr 7, 2021 16:49
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christmas boots posted:That sometimes your parents are loving morons lol Iirc, Clark is supposed to be a teenager or early twenties at most in the scene where his father dies. He's not mature enough to shoulder the responsibility of being the Superman. What Pa Kent does with his sacrifice is buy Clark time to figure out himself, to learn more about the world, and what he wants his place in it to be. And in that sense, Pa Kent is correct to buy Clark some time: he travels the world, does some isolated good deeds here and there because he can't stop being a savior, but ultimately knows that this cannot be it, realizes that this makes him unhappy. And eventually, his hand is forced anyway and he has to reveal himself. But in addition to that, there's also another dimension to what his father's death did to Clark: now, whenever he thinks about revealing himself to the public, he knows he's a) going against his father's stated dying wish and b) he'll always think "okay if I'm outed anyway, I could have saved him back then". It makes his decision harder and more tragic. Because he, and the audience also, cannot know if his father was just wrong or if he was trying to buy Clark time as I said above. (with "outing" I mean revealing that a Superman exists, not that Clark is him)
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Apr 7, 2021 17:33
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What does Superman use to change now that phone booths are no longer a thing? Starbucks restrooms?
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Apr 7, 2021 17:37
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Clark Kent won't risk exposing his secret identity by saving his dad. Then he risk exposing his secret identity to gently caress with a rude truck driver.
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Apr 7, 2021 17:37
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Alhazred posted:Clark Kent won't risk exposing his secret identity by saving his dad. Then he risk exposing his secret identity to gently caress with a rude truck driver. I mean, this does seem convincingly human.
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Apr 7, 2021 17:53
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I don't get why Superman would really need to worry about keeping a low profile it's not like anyone can harm him and I doubt anyone would risk harming the family or friends of a demigod that could murder them and everyone they've ever met in a couple of hours with minimal effort.
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Apr 7, 2021 18:46
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FreudianSlippers posted:I don't get why Superman would really need to worry about keeping a low profile it's not like anyone can harm him and I doubt anyone would risk harming the family or friends of a demigod that could murder them and everyone they've ever met in a couple of hours with minimal effort. I mean, to be fair the core concept of most superman media is that someone is trying to harm him and/or his friends and family.
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Apr 7, 2021 18:57
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FreudianSlippers posted:I don't get why Superman would really need to worry about keeping a low profile it's not like anyone can harm him and I doubt anyone would risk harming the family or friends of a demigod that could murder them and everyone they've ever met in a couple of hours with minimal effort. It was mentioned above but I think a lot of this comes down to Cavill looking like the 30 year old man that he actually was and not the 17 year old he was theoretically supposed to be in that scene. I think if you have a gangly looking teenager in that scene it's easier to understand why his father didn't think he was ready. If the government had gotten hold of him at that time who knows what experiments and traumas they could've put him through, and that would've been a very very bad thing for the world long term. I think it works because it puts Clark in the position to make a very high stakes emotional decision to reveal himself to the world. If he comes out, and the world rejects him, that means his father sacrificed himself for nothing. So he really wants to be certain he's making the right call so that he can make his father's sacrifice mean something.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:11
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SiKboy posted:I mean, to be fair the core concept of most superman media is that someone is trying to harm him and/or his friends and family. Tell that to Zods snapped neck
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Apr 7, 2021 19:24
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Basebf555 posted:It was mentioned above but I think a lot of this comes down to Cavill looking like the 30 year old man that he actually was and not the 17 year old he was theoretically supposed to be in that scene. I think if you have a gangly looking teenager in that scene it's easier to understand why his father didn't think he was ready. If the government had gotten hold of him at that time who knows what experiments and traumas they could've put him through, and that would've been a very very bad thing for the world long term. I agree. Casting actors 15+ years older than their characters for emotional hero’s journey starting point scenes just kills their ability to land.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:27
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Captain Monkey posted:I agree. Casting actors 15+ years older than their characters for emotional hero’s journey starting point scenes just kills their ability to land. Speaking of this, I've recently watched the Pillars of the Earth BBC miniseries and they are so guilty of this. I guess it's to be somewhat expected for a story that spans decades but, while they do a decent job making most the main cast younger/older as needed, what happens with a couple of minor characters is bonkers - the worst offenders easily being Tom's daughter being recasted once from her childhood to her adulthood (so she's the same actress from about 10 to her late teens) and William's wife with her twee "I'm twelve" when he first meet her (the actress is mid 20s, and has no change between her first appearence and her second one, when she's supposed to be 22).
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Apr 7, 2021 19:51
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I feel like Dark is the only show I've seen recently that did a good job of it. go watch Dark. Their casting is impeccable.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:56
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Man of Steel probably wouldn't be so looked down upon if WB hadn't used it for the jump off point of their cinematic universe.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:57
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Gaunab posted:Man of Steel probably wouldn't be so looked down upon if WB hadn't used it for the jump off point of their cinematic universe. On the other hand, Man of Steel looks better now by comparison now that people have seen BvS and Justice League.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:58
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Basebf555 posted:It was mentioned above but I think a lot of this comes down to Cavill looking like the 30 year old man that he actually was and not the 17 year old he was theoretically supposed to be in that scene. I think if you have a gangly looking teenager in that scene it's easier to understand why his father didn't think he was ready. If the government had gotten hold of him at that time who knows what experiments and traumas they could've put him through, and that would've been a very very bad thing for the world long term. How the hell would the government even begin to contain him? He could wipe out every branch of the military and their dogs without breaking a sweat. I haven't seen the movie though. Maybe he doesn't know he's a god or maybe the government has kryptonite.
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Apr 7, 2021 20:02
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FreudianSlippers posted:I haven't seen the movie though. Maybe he doesn't know he's a god or maybe the government has kryptonite. That's exactly it, when he was younger he didn't really know the full extent of his powers and he hadn't even really tried to use them very much.
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Apr 7, 2021 20:07
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AFewBricksShy posted:A heart attack teaches Clark that despite having the power of a god, there are things he can't stop. 60's Superman would have used his previously unmentioned coronary bypass vision
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Apr 7, 2021 20:13
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Does Superman have something against dogs?
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Apr 7, 2021 20:16
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Does Superman have something against dogs? He desperately wants to be Man’s Best Friend and perceives them as competition
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Apr 7, 2021 20:20
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Would anyone know Superman's weakness to kryptonite if he didn't tell them?
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Apr 7, 2021 20:37
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Anyone who listened to Three Doors Down would know, duh.
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Apr 7, 2021 20:46
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nexus6 posted:Would anyone know Superman's weakness to kryptonite if he didn't tell them? Typically what happens is Luthor finds out somehow and then of course he tells everyone who will listen and even provides kryptonite to other villains because he's a dick.
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Apr 7, 2021 20:47
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the 'get to the overpass' thing from man of steel was incredibly dumb, overpasses are literally worse than nothing in a tornado and that dog would have been safer left in the car pa kent died to uselessly endanger a dog lol
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Apr 7, 2021 23:03
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Tunicate posted:the 'get to the overpass' thing from man of steel was incredibly dumb, overpasses are literally worse than nothing in a tornado and that dog would have been safer left in the car Feels like this is somehow a good metaphor for the DC movies.
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Apr 7, 2021 23:11
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Basebf555 posted:Typically what happens is Luthor finds out somehow and then of course he tells everyone who will listen and even provides kryptonite to other villains because he's a dick. He sells the information and then also the kryptonite. He is a genius businessman.
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Apr 8, 2021 00:04
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Superman should get Batman to buy up the world supply of Kryptonite and just bury it in a mineshaft and fill that mineshaft with concrete and used syringes. he's got the money.
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Apr 8, 2021 00:25
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Batman would just use it all to build a kryptonite super weapon/prison “just in case” and then Lex would steal it somehow
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Apr 8, 2021 00:41
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I loved Man of Steel and though Costner was really good but that tornado scene loving sucked.
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Apr 8, 2021 01:09
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christmas boots posted:Batman would just use it all to build a kryptonite super weapon/prison “just in case” and then Lex would steal it somehow Granted there are a million versions but modern batman does indeed keep at least one kryptonite weapon in a lead-lined utility belt pouch basically at all times
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