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Renner is a decent character, but one thing that really bothers me is when, at the end of Pariah, we learn that his "crime" was actually a cartoonishly noble and heroic act to the point of parody, something like saving a little girl from cruel Ecclesiarchs who wanted to burn her alive. Way to pull your punches, Abnett. It would have been more plausible and interesting if he'd been guilty of something seriously heretical or in any case something Bequin was deeply uncomfortable with. She befriends the entirely unrepentant Cherubael in the next book, it would have been a nice step for her to have to come to terms with caring for a not-quite-yet-redeemed criminal.
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A quick change to Renner's backstory: He sheltered a girl who developed psychic powers, who then went on to become possessed and killed hundreds. Even better if he shielded her from the Inquisition rather than the Ecclesiarchy, who in most cases become the out-and-out bad guys.
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I had Xavier Renegade Angel on as background noise while reading Penitent and I have just the weirdest mental image of what a certain character was up to in Queen Mab when he's not hanging out with the main characters.
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Are there any AoS works that deal with the Cities of Sigmar? The Empire was my favorite part of Fantasy and I want to read more mortal stuff
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any AoS works that deal with the Cities of Sigmar? The Empire was my favorite part of Fantasy and I want to read more mortal stuff Seriously - someone way back was mentioning a story where ordinary people were suiciding into enemy lines with the expectation that Sigmar would beam them up to become Stormcasts, only to have them get slaughtered by whatever they were fighting and feeling abandoned by their god. Sounded cool and grimdark AF. I've heard some good things about the Warhammer Crime / Horror books for AOS, but haven't personally read any yet.
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# ? Apr 6, 2021 00:47 |
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I enjoyed Hamilcar quite a lot, and the weirdness of the AoS setting is something I would like to explore more.
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What do ordinary people do in AoS? Do they farm in the plane of carbohydrates?
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Brendan Rodgers posted:What do ordinary people do in AoS? Do they farm in the plane of carbohydrates? Well the Realm of Fire despite the name, is not on fire, unless you go to the weird areas closer to the edge. There are even cold and frozen areas. (The natives of Aqshy describe said places as burning cold rather then hot.) But for the most part the area's are just dry or hot. And things will grow strong there if they can get enough moisture. So yeah there are Farms.
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Paddyo posted:Seriously - someone way back was mentioning a story where ordinary people were suiciding into enemy lines with the expectation that Sigmar would beam them up to become Stormcasts, only to have them get slaughtered by whatever they were fighting and feeling abandoned by their god. Sounded cool and grimdark AF. That was Shadespire. The main character is talking about the foolishness of the Crusades a ton of people were going on to impress Sigmar. Stating that he heard that a bunch of people would charge into an enemy in hopes of becoming a Stormcas, only for them all to get wiped out, and he has never heard of anyone who went on these Crusades actually becoming one. (This is basically because Sigmar hardly does Stormcast recruitment anymore. He simply does not have the time or attention for it now.) No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Are there any AoS works that deal with the Cities of Sigmar? The Empire was my favorite part of Fantasy and I want to read more mortal stuff City of Secrets, Hamerhal and Other Stories are some good ones. There are others that take place in cities but they are more the backdrops.
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For fun here is a little short story from AoS.ZENST’S DECREE OF ORDINANCES posted:Jedd opened his eyes blearily, then screwed them tight against the dawn light. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Lords of Silence is a lot of fun so far. It really straddles the line between humanizing the Death Guard and showing how terrifying they are. Like, I guess humans just vomit themselves to death uncontrollably around them? loving wild
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Lords of Silence is a lot of fun so far. It really straddles the line between humanizing the Death Guard and showing how terrifying they are. Like, I guess humans just vomit themselves to death uncontrollably around them? loving wild If you're REALLY lucky you don't die... EVER... and you vomit for eternity. Blessed be Nurgle.
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:Lords of Silence is a lot of fun so far. It really straddles the line between humanizing the Death Guard and showing how terrifying they are. Like, I guess humans just vomit themselves to death uncontrollably around them? loving wild Fantastic book, but the biggest achievement is actually nailing why anyone would choose the patronage of Nurgle. I always wondered "why would I take boils and puss over being a skull harvesting warrior, a perpetually orgasmic cenobite with a chainsaw or a galactic space wizard?" and it turns out the answer is "because you get to chill out, stop worrying about the little things and you get pets"
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Dog_Meat posted:Fantastic book, but the biggest achievement is actually nailing why anyone would choose the patronage of Nurgle. I always wondered "why would I take boils and puss over being a skull harvesting warrior, a perpetually orgasmic cenobite with a chainsaw or a galactic space wizard?" and it turns out the answer is "because you get to chill out, stop worrying about the little things and you get pets" I want a Little Lord so bad
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The Little Lords in LoS are one of my favorite things in all of warhammer fiction. Nurgle followers are legit trying to do good things in the galaxy as they see it.
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MonsterEnvy posted:For fun here is a little short story from AoS.
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Arquinsiel posted:How is he reading and then not able to read? It's illuminated. Presumably like some people can't read cursive (Me for example) he just can't make it out properly. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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For anyone interested this forum saved all the Malign Portents Short Stories that are no longer available on their site. https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/27094-malign-portents-the-compiled-stories/
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Dog_Meat posted:Fantastic book, but the biggest achievement is actually nailing why anyone would choose the patronage of Nurgle. I always wondered "why would I take boils and puss over being a skull harvesting warrior, a perpetually orgasmic cenobite with a chainsaw or a galactic space wizard?" and it turns out the answer is "because you get to chill out, stop worrying about the little things and you get pets" Yeah, Nurgle seems like the most extortionate when it comes to getting followers but then by far the best one to serve once you've bought in.
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Plus their commitment to see life grow and flourish. I mean, it might not be life in its most pleasant forms, but that's just a matter of perspective.
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MonsterEnvy posted:For anyone interested this forum saved all the Malign Portents Short Stories that are no longer available on their site. These are really dope
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Inspector_666 posted:Yeah, Nurgle seems like the most extortionate when it comes to getting followers but then by far the best one to serve once you've bought in. It's noted that he can never actually stay mad at his followers that fail him, so he frequently revives them.
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Isnt Typhon a huge piece of poo poo though? Like I remember him being the guy a lotta people hated even before they turned.
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Typhus is a dick, he’s also half Chaos-alien-warlord so maybe it’s genetic
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Telsa Cola posted:Isnt Typhon a huge piece of poo poo though? Like I remember him being the guy a lotta people hated even before they turned. Nurgle's followers can be dicks. But Nurgle himself is fairly friendly to his followers.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's illuminated. Presumably like some people can't read cursive (Me for example) he just can't make it out properly.
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Arquinsiel posted:That in no way answers the question so I will assume "magic". He can read the document the degree is on. But the blessed parchments are written in a way he can't decipher, so he can't figure out what they actually say. Biplane posted:These are really dope Agreed they were a fun bunch of short stories for the World Building.
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My guess is that the blessed parchments are in the AoS equivalent of liturgical Latin, while the decree is in a more commonplace language.
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Khizan posted:My guess is that the blessed parchments are in the AoS equivalent of liturgical Latin, while the decree is in a more commonplace language. Yeah but saying "Wish I got my letters" seems like he actually doesn't know how to read. Like that's a very common way/phrase that gets used in a lot of media to state a character is illiterate.
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Telsa Cola posted:Yeah but saying "Wish I got my letters" seems like he actually doesn't know how to read.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Typhus is a dick, he’s also half Chaos-alien-warlord so maybe it’s genetic Is Typhon actually a space marine? Or is he like Luther and Kor Phaeron? He was old enough to be a rebel leader when Morty first meets him, and then I think the rebellion drags on for a couple of years...I guess maybe he could be 16 at the youngest and was just really lucky?
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von Metternich posted:Is Typhon actually a space marine? Or is he like Luther and Kor Phaeron? He was old enough to be a rebel leader when Morty first meets him, and then I think the rebellion drags on for a couple of years...I guess maybe he could be 16 at the youngest and was just really lucky? Typhon being anything other than a normal space marine is a retcon, whereas Luther and Kor Phaeron were always fauxmarines, so the answer is “they didn’t think about that.”
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He's a space marine. Older people can become space marines, it's just that the failure rate is very high. Remember Russ's crew were all much older but went for it anyway and most didn't make it.
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Recently, I've finished No Good Men and Flesh and Steel Warhammer Crime novels and really enjoyed the perspective and storytelling of a world that is focused on itself rather than the grand scope of the galaxy. I'm about half way through Bloodlines and will be sad to see the stories end for now, as I dive back into my multi-year long journey to get through the Horus Heresy.
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Arquinsiel posted:Exactly this. It usually means that the character is at "signs with an X" level literacy. Yeah, it's not the best choice of phrase there
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Pyrolocutus posted:There's a working theory that Space Sharks are actually hybrid Raven Guard / Night Lords. The closest current canon backed theory is they were black shields in the heresy and used whatever geneseed was on hand and don’t have a single origin. 3rd company is strongly implied to have some world eater geneseed multiple times in the mcniven books. In the 6th hh black book the ashen claws steal the nostromo geneseed vault the night lords were trying to rebuild the legion with post terra and it’s implied the sharks got some as they operate pretty closely with the ashen claws weird little pirate empire. And the inquisition nabs a dead one in the badab war and it was of raven guard stock.
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The Space sharks splintering off the exiled Crusade fleet and doing their own thing would also explain why they get along with the ashen claws
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Finished Luther the other day and it seems to be fully in line with the third path scenario that a lot of the recent books have been alluding to. Luther seems like a cool guy, and I'm excited to see how his story develops.
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Paddyo posted:Finished Luther the other day and it seems to be fully in line with the third path scenario that a lot of the recent books have been alluding to. Luther seems like a cool guy, and I'm excited to see how his story develops. I hate the Dark Angels. Could you post some more spoilers about it? Doubt I'll get to it, my to read list is infinite.
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I don't like them either, but I kind of dig the angle that this takes on the Fallen. Luther spoilers - It picks up right after Luther's duel with the Lion. Luther is adamant that he didn't kill the Lion, and regrets his actions. - It follows him over 10,000 years as he is kept in a stasis cell by the Watchers in the Dark and interrogated by various Grand Masters. - He responds to their questioning by sharing metaphorical and allegorical stories of his life on Caliban prior to the arrival of the Lion. - It's clear that while he used the warp for his own ends and it ultimately hosed him over, he was never in league with Chaos and recognizes it for what it is. - His goal was always just independence for Caliban, and he thinks the chaotic influence was an important part of their culture. - He's disgusted with the current state of the Dark Angels, the Imperium, and the Ecclesiarchy. - Book ends with him suddenly remembering a dream from his childhood where the Watchers in the Dark show him a secret part of the Rock (which is also the castle that he grew up in). - He wakes up to the sounds of combat, and the door to his cell is open.
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