wilderthanmild posted:My understanding is that's not something that's guaranteed to happen to this or any virus, despite a lot of people assuming that it is a thing that just happens. When a virus becomes weaker, not accounting for things like advances in medicine or other changes in host behavior, it's because of selective pressure on either the host or the virus. Without that, it's basically random luck that dictates if it's going to be more or less lethal over time. I appreciate this post, even though it made me kind of sad because I was hoping it would like, just weaken to a point where it's not going to be an issue for very many people
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Sjs00 posted:Bazing! I was
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 18:10 |
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Just got Pfizer number 2. Never been so excited to know I’m gonna have a dead arm and fever tomorrow. gently caress covid! gently caress anti-vaxxers! gently caress the police!
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low key sex master posted:I appreciate this post, even though it made me kind of sad because I was hoping it would like, just weaken to a point where it's not going to be an issue for very many people all the more reason everyone who can get the shot should, if only to protect those who won't be able to get it but we live in hellworld so this will be endemic for way too long and kill chuds and the at risk for the foreseeable future all that is assuming distribution actually happens properly and fairly globally and not just to certain countries in the first place
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 18:23 |
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Got my pfirst Pfizer pfoke at Pford Pfield yesterday from a man in pfatigues, thanks PFEMA! Feeling: a little sore at injection site Hearing: Bill Gates whispering "get an abortion and kill yourself" 5G signal: Solid, even in my basement
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wilderthanmild posted:My understanding is that's not something that's guaranteed to happen to this or any virus, despite a lot of people assuming that it is a thing that just happens. When a virus becomes weaker, not accounting for things like advances in medicine or other changes in host behavior, it's because of selective pressure on either the host or the virus. Without that, it's basically random luck that dictates if it's going to be more or less lethal over time. Don't forget human reaction is a big part of that selective pressure. Hygiene, quarantine, social distancing, and vaccines all heavily select against deadlier mutations at least over the long term - a virus that causes a mild cold will be mostly left unmolested, one that makes your insides liquify will have everything we can think of thrown at it.
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If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble https://twitter.com/reutersscience/status/1379745972394332161?s=21
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble Not really unexpected based on SARS https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7192220/
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble It's a good thing the US are particularly good at dealing with mental health
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble Given how America has been acting for the past few years, can they really determine the psychiatric issues were the result of covid?
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble Good thing they won't have access to any dangerous tools for committing violence
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble It's a shocking statistic but when you look into what they actually found it's very very inconclusive.
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For me the most alarming thing is this says mostly Americans and 1/3 Our poo poo medical care means they must have been pretty bad like it was noticeable and diagnosable and how does that even happen so many don't even have insurance.
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Spinz posted:For me the most alarming thing is this says mostly Americans and 1/3 1/3 0ops drat
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Rolo posted:Just got Pfizer number 2. Never been so excited to know I’m gonna have a dead arm and fever tomorrow. I passionately support this post Will there be a headline that excuses a white man killing the poo poo out of people in a mass shooting due to covid that he couldn't have possibly avoided, while his facebook repeatedly says don't wear a diaper on your face? I give it until July, tops.
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wilderthanmild posted:My understanding is that's not something that's guaranteed to happen to this or any virus, despite a lot of people assuming that it is a thing that just happens. When a virus becomes weaker, not accounting for things like advances in medicine or other changes in host behavior, it's because of selective pressure on either the host or the virus. Without that, it's basically random luck that dictates if it's going to be more or less lethal over time. Yeah most covid deaths occur roughly 4 or 5 weeks after the initial infection (if a hospital bed is available) and a very large percent of infections are asymptomatic, there's pretty much zero selective pressure pushing coronavirus towards being less lethal and plenty of room for more aggressive variants to flourish. Less than 5% of the global population has received a vaccination so far: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html Only 5.5% of India's 1.39 billion population has received a jab (and only 0.8% are fully vaccinated) and their cases graph currently looks like this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ Brazil has a slightly higher vaccination rate than India (8.5% has at least one dose, 2.4% are fully vaccinated) and their deaths are skyrocketing: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/ The US is actually doing real well comparatively but make sure you and your loved ones get a shot into your arms as soon as possible
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble Are the writers pivoting to zombie apocalypse?
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Zugzwang posted:Don't (good) vaccines generally create better immunity than natural infection, with natural immunity from this thing looking like it lasts quite a long time as well? I realize that verified reinfection is a thing, but last I checked (am I wrong?), not super-common. This seemed to get passed over, so I wanted to jump in and say that from the data so far it looks like natural immunity from covid infection is actually pretty poo poo compared to getting vaccinated. Offhand I can't remember the estimate, but I think the upper bound estimate for the duration of natural immunity was like 5 months, if that. I'm going from memory, so if anyone wants to correct me please do so.
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i've had exactly two arguments about getting the shot. one person i was closer with so it was in a more "cmon cut the poo poo" tone vs eggshells of the other, but they both basically have the same weird fear of the thing. i'd rather eat paint than try that again. what they didn't seem to know, and maybe this just isn't a popular fact, the supreme court ruled that vaccines can be mandated by the state since you're viewed as a health risk to others beyond yourself https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/04/01/vaccine-supreme-court-smallpox-covid/
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N=1 I got covid twice, first in February 2020 after some dickheads took their kid skiing in Italy and sent her back to class to sit next to my daughter. So yeh one of the first confirmed cases. Then I got it again but milder 8 months later after walking into a disabled toilet in Tesco’s after some dirty bastard had been in there and covered every square inch of the place in piss. I inhaled pissy air went “oh fuuuuuuck!” warned the staff and sent my teenager round the store for self isolation milk and bread. My friend is part of the Oxford trial so they came round and took blood from me in exchange for a £25 love2Shop voucher. So I got covid twice and all I got to show for it is this lovely lamp.
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wait are piss fumes a known vector of transmission
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FlamingLiberal posted:If this turns out to be correct we are in serious trouble Quoting this so I can actually read the study when I’m not getting ready for work, but the last study I saw like this included “sleep abnormalities” and “difficulty with mental math” as psych issues, and even noted they were often transient. My sleep problems and dumbbrain went away in like two months or so.
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Are there any news updates out of Brazil or Mexico?
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Quoting this so I can actually read the study when I’m not getting ready for work, but the last study I saw like this included “sleep abnormalities” and “difficulty with mental math” as psych issues, and even noted they were often transient. My sleep problems and dumbbrain went away in like two months or so. There's no link to the actual study, and I haven't yet searched to see if I can find it elsewhere. But yeah, right now I'm looking at that and thinking I really want to read their methodology and definition of terms. Observational studies are difficult, and so far it is looking like there could be a lot of correlation/causation issues here.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:wait are piss fumes a known vector of transmission It’s in the sewage system so I always assumed it would have been the pissy air. Like this wasn’t normal piss fumes, it was actual piss, I saw him come out and he glared at me like “and what” and I swear down he had aimed at the ceiling.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:wait are piss fumes a known vector of transmission lovely fumes, certainly. There are great studies of it out of both the SARS epidemic and this one.
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learnincurve posted:It’s in the sewage system so I always assumed it would have been the pissy air. Like this wasn’t normal piss fumes, it was actual piss, I saw him come out and he glared at me like “and what” and I swear down he had aimed at the ceiling. It's viral particles and remnants (likely from infections in the past) that show up in wastewater. All of the stuff about testing wastewater is basically pointless for purposes of identifying hotspots or stopping transmission, since it's basically showing us where Covid was, not where Covid is. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/wastewater-surveillance/developing-a-wastewater-surveillance-sampling-strategy.html
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Covid laden piss fumes
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Are there any news updates out of Brazil or Mexico? the President of Mexico said, during his daily propaganda morning show that he wouldn't get a vaccine, then said the leaked videos of old people receiving empty vaccines were a political attack staged by his enemies, then the old as balls Secretary of Health came out and said it wasn't a big deal if the president didn't get vaccinated because he had a superb immune system and his travels all over Mexico made him a superman I assume Bolsonaro is doing equally great in Brazil
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quote:India has carried out a record 4.3m daily vaccinations as its second wave of coronavirus continued its rapid spread, with 115,000 fresh infections in 24 hours – the highest single-day total anywhere in the world. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/apr/07/india-carries-out-record-covid-jabs-cases-rise
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quote:While the vaccination rate, which had been been hovering at between 2-3m a day, was a triumph it was not enough to quell the sense of despondency over the sharp increase in cases. You don’t say If that record rate is maintained every day from tomorrow onward, the campaign will be finished in February of 2022, assuming these are all single‐dose vaccines.
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Oh boy.quote:London: Hundreds of thousands of doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine have been flown from the United Kingdom to Australia but the source of the shipments was kept quiet to avoid any controversy in coronavirus-ravaged Britain. https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/more-than-700-000-astrazeneca-doses-secretly-flown-to-australia-from-britain-20210407-p57hcl.html
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PNG eagerly awaits Australian aid.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:the President of Mexico said, during his daily propaganda morning show that he wouldn't get a vaccine, then said the leaked videos of old people receiving empty vaccines were a political attack staged by his enemies, then the old as balls Secretary of Health came out and said it wasn't a big deal if the president didn't get vaccinated because he had a superb immune system and his travels all over Mexico made him a superman Reminder that before that he was defending a sexual abuser. And called the feminist groups an attack group created by the right. Yeah. I guess covid-19 gave him early dementia. (I was a supporter of his party, but these last year...holy poo poo. poo poo has gone crazy gently caress with them). Chile is also joining us in "oh fuuuuccck whaat" land. They removed all their prevention measures while doing their vaccination campaign and now the numbers are going up up up. Only a 45% of the population has the first vaccine.
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Is there freezer planes?
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Bape Culture posted:Is there freezer planes? There are unit load devices (like the common cargo container but miniaturized and designed to fit in the hold better) that can maintain cold temperatures. They have a limited period of operation because it’s not wise to run a diesel engine in the cargo hold of a plane. They’re loaded with dry ice and use electronics to control heat exchange between it and the payload chamber. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vagtcHxHB4
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ShadowHawk posted:If you're talking about the US The article they're quoting is about India
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CaptainSarcastic posted:This seemed to get passed over, so I wanted to jump in and say that from the data so far it looks like natural immunity from covid infection is actually pretty poo poo compared to getting vaccinated. Offhand I can't remember the estimate, but I think the upper bound estimate for the duration of natural immunity was like 5 months, if that.
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Pine Cone Jones posted:Are there any news updates out of Brazil or Mexico? Brazil looking p. bad https://twitter.com/terrence_mccoy/status/1379788552637141002 https://twitter.com/terrence_mccoy/status/1379789431389978624 https://twitter.com/terrence_mccoy/status/1379790325116461057 https://twitter.com/MSavarese/status/1379573837503795200
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