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Ok even without going infinite Volcanic rounds feel busted as gently caress. 3x-4x damage, ignores armor(so it hits even harder against elites), inflicts Burn(with a decent range), marks enemies, AND pierces. EDIT: Also I'm just crushing parts that I had trouble with as Devastator. Devastator just needs buffs all around.
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Raged posted:This just in Shamans are some loving bullshit I'm just happy there's only 2 in the entire game.
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I just finished the main game and have to agree - Shaman are the ONLY enemies, bosses included, that feel like ridiculous bullet sponges. I can empty two clips of Toxic rounds into them and then have to wait for the refill before I can finish them off. Not. Fun.
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Apr 8, 2021 11:31
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Memnaelar posted:Not sure if I believe there's actually a role for Sniper Rifles in this game. Like in any other game. "I want that dude shooting at me from the other side of the map to be dead, just now". Is also a high-damage weapon / burst damage. If you have a skill that mark a enemy to get double the damage from your first shot, is better to shot at him with a shotgun, or a sniper rifle, than with any other weapon, that will do a fraction of the damage. On this game is feasible to use sniper rifles kind of like shotguns, doing bodyshots with a sniper. High-skill players can chain headshots. With a mod where headshot=no ammo cost. It mean a single mag of 10 bullets will last forever and infinite ammo. While doing the same with a autoweapon is less feasible. Tei fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Apr 8, 2021 |
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Apr 8, 2021 11:44
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Maybe it's just me, but I felt like both shotguns and sniper rifles became obsolete very quickly once you start rising up the World Tiers (and Challenge Tiers). Theoretically they offer burst damage, but since everything in the game is ridiculously tanky by that point, you don't get much value out of that. That said, I wasn't playing one of the classes with a good bullet skill. Clarste fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 8, 2021 |
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Apr 8, 2021 11:55
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Floppychop posted:It being 15% of my total isn't "bad" considering the main reason I make things bleed is to trigger effects that let me do X% more damage to enemies affected by bleed. I'm saying don't put all your points in bleed skills or mods. If you're truly "making a bleed build" and only getting 15% of your damage, could those points be used somewhere else?
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Sniper rifles aren't awful for Technomancer, although they aren't worth bringing to monster fights or cramped arenas. I do like bringing one with that weird devil chains mod on it, so I can peg some idiot enemy sniper with one shot, then watch him die from across the room.
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Getting 15% of your damage from one out of ten mod slots means you're actually getting above average value from it. You don't need all your moves to do bleed, you just need to have it up consistently. Also, presumably you have the mod that makes you deal 15% more damage to bleeding targets, so roughly 15% of all your other damage is also coming from bleed. So like 27% of the total.
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Apr 8, 2021 12:01
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Is anyone else playing this on console (I知 on Xbox One X)? I just started last night and feel like the input lag and general imprecision of aiming makes gunplay very frustrating. I may have to switch to PC or just play an anomaly-heavy build.
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Apr 8, 2021 14:09
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Clarste posted:Getting 15% of your damage from one out of ten mod slots means you're actually getting above average value from it. You don't need all your moves to do bleed, you just need to have it up consistently. Also, presumably you have the mod that makes you deal 15% more damage to bleeding targets, so roughly 15% of all your other damage is also coming from bleed. So like 27% of the total. And how many skill points wasted?
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Apr 8, 2021 14:34
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enigmatikone posted:If you're looking to farm blues, purples for upgrades to push WT or just grab mats and mods to feed alts don't forget the 8 chest farm at Eagle Peaks ( speak to Jacob to leave for Deadrock Pass story point, then quick travel to Bunker Heights flag ). A good place to grind out level exp and WT is the First City story point: Reach the other side of the river. You just clean out the perforo horde, rinse and repeat. Do you bother getting to the Alpha, or just the first wave?
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Cretin90 posted:Is anyone else playing this on console (I知 on Xbox One X)? I just started last night and feel like the input lag and general imprecision of aiming makes gunplay very frustrating. I may have to switch to PC or just play an anomaly-heavy build. The older gen consoles are only running at 30fps which would make this game extremely difficult for me, I think. On PS5 and the Series consoles it's 60 which is fine.
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Tell you the truth seeing 15% more damage from anything is alot better than looking at infinite damage builds.  Look at that clear time too, can't do that with an anomaly power build. Hope they post something about nerfing it today. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 8, 2021 |
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Apr 8, 2021 14:45
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Did they fix the hud not appearing on launch yet?
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Apr 8, 2021 14:45
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Cretin90 posted:Is anyone else playing this on console (I知 on Xbox One X)? I just started last night and feel like the input lag and general imprecision of aiming makes gunplay very frustrating. I may have to switch to PC or just play an anomaly-heavy build. I played the demo on my series X and yeah, there's a ton of aim acceleration that makes aiming feel terrible. They said they're going to patch in settings for aim acceleration, dead zone, and some other stuff so you can dial it in better, but that might not be coming for a couple weeks.
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Apr 8, 2021 14:55
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Upcoming changes got posted earlier than intended. Farm spots dead, legendaries on bounty repeats dead, bullet skills a wee nerfed and zilch for other skills. Stanley Pain posted:Really hope Devastators get some love soon. Seems like that's a no for now.
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Apr 8, 2021 14:56
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So time to finish some expeditions made harder chem plant(which wasnt the fastest) got nerfed and boom town which was already hard to clear got even harder. Good good, even though there is faster already. Bullet skills added longer cooldowns and slightly less dmg. Man the cooldown on infinite ammo builds really was the problem with them, right? No buffs for ap builds. I don't think they played the game.
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Apr 8, 2021 15:01
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Mango Polo posted:Upcoming changes got posted earlier than intended. That is very underwhelming 
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Apr 8, 2021 15:01
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Apr 8, 2021 15:02
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Tenzarin posted:So time to finish some expeditions made harder chem plant(which wasnt the fastest) got nerfed and boom town which was already hard to clear got even harder. Good good, even though there is faster already. I was hoping they wouldn't start going this route but they are. Nerfing things and making it harder to gear up so those of us behind the curve already just fall further behind. Like nerfing the cooldown on that skill is a stupid way of fixing the problem.
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Apr 8, 2021 15:03
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Mango Polo posted:Upcoming changes got posted earlier than intended. And that's a cool uninstall from me. They needed to bring other skills up along with making the bullet powers balanced, not just dumb blanket nerfs to anything viable at late endgame.
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Apr 8, 2021 15:06
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Let me check my handy in-game infomation page. Ok yup, that confirms it. They did not play the game. Were getting updates for the game based on youtube videos.
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Apr 8, 2021 15:07
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Nothing like unnecessary nerfs in a PvE game.
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Apr 8, 2021 15:07
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Don't worry for the next week we will get videos about you should now do colosseum and stargrave. And the week after that we wont.
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You know this does nothing to stop infinite dmg builds right?
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Cool, let's make it harder to get loot in a game that a lot of folks play single player.
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This whole "only nerf, never buff" poo poo is annoying and unnecessary in a PVE game. Great way to take the wind out of a lot of players' sails.
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Presumably this isn't the last time they're ever going to touch the game.
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Dang, I didn稚 get a chance to redo the hunts/bounties.
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stop being so mean to devastators
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Well we won't have to keep kicking them out soon as they reroll to a good class.
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Bardeh posted:The older gen consoles are only running at 30fps which would make this game extremely difficult for me, I think. On PS5 and the Series consoles it's 60 which is fine. This is problematic, but I can handle 30 fps on a non-competitive game like this that I play co-op. No, I think the real issue I知 running into is... Hulk Krogan posted:I played the demo on my series X and yeah, there's a ton of aim acceleration that makes aiming feel terrible. They said they're going to patch in settings for aim acceleration, dead zone, and some other stuff so you can dial it in better, but that might not be coming for a couple weeks. this. I知 not sure I値l be playing again until this is addressed, the controls on console feel like a poorly optimized 2006 3rd person shooter with 200ms input delay and imprecise targeting movements.
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fadam posted:Presumably this isn't the last time they're ever going to touch the game. Obviously not, but it shows where their thought processes are.
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Floppychop posted:This whole "only nerf, never buff" poo poo is annoying and unnecessary in a PVE game. Great way to take the wind out of a lot of players' sails. It might be a problem when day 1 people are getting gold on CT15 content. Smoothing out the different powers, builds, and power scaling would make for a better experience than everyone instantly skipping the whole CT progression and then bitching there's nothing to do.
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I would much rather prefer anyone could play just about anything at the highest level and not be a detriment to the group because they arn't doing the best thing. Anomaly damage should have been buffed.
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Mango Polo posted:It might be a problem when day 1 people are getting gold on CT15 content. There will always be some people that hit end-game crazy fast in any game. When they poopsock and play 8+ hrs/day, every day, they're obviously going to be far ahead of normal players.
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I started with Devastator since after playing all of the classes in the demo it's the one that "felt right" for my style of play. I'm currently climbing the expedition tiers and have hit a wall at 11, I'm debating if I just bite the bullet and reroll a new character on a different class.
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