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Data Graham posted:Just more of this shell-game argument technique I mentioned yesterday, making people have to counterargue a completely absurd or contradictory tangential premise instead of the outrageous thing right at the heart of the matter. I hate the 'oh they had underlying conditions, they would have died anyway' narrative because I have asthma, I have a life expectancy close to that of a normal person, but if I get covid I die in my forties or live at a drastically reduced capacity for maybe another 10 years.
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Oh right, it was in a different threadData Graham posted:I feel like there's an awfully common tactic among people on the right, or people who live in a fantasy bubble in general, where they'll defend some ground that far out in advance of the actual vulnerable position, just because it helps wear you down.
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If you look at the real numbers, there are actually very few deaths in the US attributable to vehicular accidents. Most people in those incidents simply die of blood loss, or are taken off of life support well after the accident.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Like the whole "died with, not of covid" smarm. "It was actually a heart attack that killed him." Yes, caused by the cardiac stress of a pulmonary system absolutely destroyed by covid. One of the worst is people claiming that George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose just sort of accidentally at the same time a cop was kneeling on his neck.
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I'm still having trouble putting into adequately snide words the apparent premise behind "disproving" that he died because of having his neck knelt on. "Therefore, BLM burned down the country last year because one black guy was a weakling!! Q.E.D., the whole premise of systemic racism is debunked!!!"
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Data Graham posted:I'm still having trouble putting into adequately snide words the apparent premise behind "disproving" that he died because of having his neck knelt on. See: grasping at straw
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Punkin Spunkin posted:The worst part about true crime people is when they reach the grizzled gumshoe stage... they start trying to "solve cases" and start thinking "exposing myself to hosed up poo poo online" is a personality trait. They start thinking that "reading a bunch of murders" has endowed them with an understanding of law and justice. The fact that there's like entire reddit boards devoted to Jon Benet or those Dutch hikers is just sad imo.
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Holy poo poo. That's spectacular Is GloucesterRon taking the piss? Edit: I feel like a whole bunch of clueless people are going to need educating soon about what's going on in NI
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Roblo posted:Holy poo poo. That's spectacular
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Facebook cousin posted:$15.00 an hour equals 2600.00 dollars a month. How about we raise social security to 2600.00 dollars a month for those of us that have already worked for it and paid our dues. "FYGM". People who are working minimum wage jobs are, by definition, "working for it" and "paying their dues".
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:"FYGM". People who are working minimum wage jobs are, by definition, "working for it" and "paying their dues". it's every time
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learnincurve posted:My actual area! This is hella interesting, thank you! I'll check out the book.
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Captain Monkey posted:One of the worst is people claiming that George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose just sort of accidentally at the same time a cop was kneeling on his neck. Data Graham posted:I'm still having trouble putting into adequately snide words the apparent premise behind "disproving" that he died because of having his neck knelt on. If they can get people talking about drugs or remarkably timed heart attacks or how it's actually the victim's fault, they can pull discourse and thought away from the real issues of which these deaths are emblematic. It's much easier for them to argue about fentanyl than about a nationwide epidemic of police brutality. It's easier to lie about the specifics of neck compression than the fact they were beating the poo poo out of him well before that, or about breathing and talking instead of whether any of this was okay in the first place. Don't get me wrong, it's bullshit even from their angle, because every coroner report proves them wrong, every autopsy says "Chauvin killed him", but they'd rather duck that and pretend they're experts than let people make any headway on national issues.
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I don't think George Flody being on drugs means he deserved to die anyways. They clearly could have fixated him in way where he didn't die.
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They just claim without evidence that the coroner's report said it was a fentanyl overdose that occurred at that exact second, and the cop was blameless. And when you reply that no, that's not the case, they're already on to the next argument in their gish gallop.
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Nazis like to get in on this too: "The Holocaust never happened/was greatly exaggerated but would it really have been so bad if it were true?" and so on
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Like the whole "died with, not of covid" smarm. "It was actually a heart attack that killed him." Yes, caused by the cardiac stress of a pulmonary system absolutely destroyed by covid. Its so dumb, it's like say AIDS isn't a big deal because technically no one has ever died from AIDS. They've died from some other disease that there body wasn't able to fight off because AIDS absolutely destroyed their immune system.
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Just broadly claiming that everything you disagree with is "fake news" really does get some killer mileage unfortunately. "Don't believe everything you see!" "Here are multiple verified sources that clearly indicate you are incorrect on this matter." "Those are fake news! My endless supply of videos where some bald rear end in a top hat with sunglasses is ranting in his car are all the proof I need!" Repeat for any and all political issues.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 19:26 |
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Read After Burning posted:This is hella interesting, thank you! I'll check out the book. My favourite what the gently caress? Early detective thing is; what if I told you that in 1695 Sir Isaac Newton hunted down the criminal William Chaloner like a dog? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6437943-newton-and-the-counterfeiter Newton and the Counterfeiter: The Unknown Detective Career of the World's Greatest Scientist
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Grimdude posted:Just broadly claiming that everything you disagree with is "fake news" really does get some killer mileage unfortunately. It's especially effective when they post something from, say, Washington Times and you object because it's not a trustworthy source. Then they get to say that you're being a hypocrite because "You complained about me saying 'fake news' and now you're doing it!". I try not to engage with the other side much anymore. It's actually kind of a shame, because I don't want to get locked in a bubble, but it's hard to carry on a conversation with someone when you don't know what color the sky is in their world.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:A few years ago I had to cancel autorenew on my xbox live gold ( I had a 360 and back then you could only cancel by phone) and they had a voice recognition system called Max. I have a pretty middle of the road generic English accent and even I couldn't get it to understand me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAu-DDlINs
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Data Graham posted:Not to pile on with the RacismFiltr app but god what a perfect illustration of the tech-will-solve-everything mindset. We don't need to do the hard work of training bigotry out of society, we can just make it so you don't have to hear it if you're such a snowflake. Freedom and choice for all!
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The only thing keeping this from being reality is strict safety regulations preventing techbros from successfully "disrupting" safety critical industries. E: except for cars and spaceflight.
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https://twitter.com/rubeeye127/status/1378884258039799809?s=20
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 23:31 |
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So what decade is that zoo from?
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 00:17 |
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Reposting random "patriot" accounts from Twitter seems too easy.
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I bet this person wouldn't last a day naked, chasing animals over vast distances to finally them down with a spear He'd definitely get arrested
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Tweet that aged poorly: https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1380200140439498754 https://twitter.com/AP/status/1380268341135310848
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Roblo posted:Holy poo poo. That's spectacular I think specifically that picture is from unionists trying to firebomb the cop cars and accidentally setting themselves on fire, so the idea that the IRA would probably dislike them is at least accurate, though i don't think I would describe the unionist paramilitaries as antifa
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Read After Burning posted:Tweet that aged poorly: I'll be honest, while I do think we absolutely need some massive overhauls in gun laws I kinda wish Democrats wouldn't work on it until after we have universal healthcare and a comprehensive overhaul of the tax system that no longer so grossly benefits the super rich, because every time they try and do something about it it's just a massive fundraiser for lovely Republicans who want to undo every slightly progressive thing we've managed to accomplish. poo poo like this makes me genuinely think the Democratic establishment genuinely wants to lose in the mid terms.
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Skwirl posted:poo poo like this makes me genuinely think the Democratic establishment genuinely wants to lose in the mid terms. ... I mean yeah?
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https://twitter.com/robpalkwriter/status/1380097275381317632?s=20 Is it gay to read fiction? Oh god https://twitter.com/robpalkwriter/status/1380100003516051459?s=20 Yeah, I'll definitely take advice on being a proper man from Noel Gallagher.
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Well, I did learn in school that guys often stop reading for fun around puberty, but not why. Turns out it's toxic masculinity!
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Skwirl posted:https://twitter.com/robpalkwriter/status/1380097275381317632?s=20 Is that why Oasis ripped off so many existing songs? Coming up with new melodies is a female trait?
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Ernest Hemingway was gay according to these new standards.
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Ernest Hemingway was gay according to these new standards. Well, he definitely liked to deep-throat a long hard shaft that delivered hot loads.
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Skwirl posted:I'll be honest, while I do think we absolutely need some massive overhauls in gun laws I kinda wish Democrats wouldn't work on it until after we have universal healthcare and a comprehensive overhaul of the tax system that no longer so grossly benefits the super rich, because every time they try and do something about it it's just a massive fundraiser for lovely Republicans who want to undo every slightly progressive thing we've managed to accomplish. Congrats, you figured it all out. Its all just a scam to keep money in power.
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Skwirl posted:https://twitter.com/robpalkwriter/status/1380097275381317632?s=20 a man with a fork in a world of soup
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Well, he definitely liked to deep-throat a long hard shaft that delivered hot loads.
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