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I’m glad Hero has taken the heat off us Ness/Lucas mains
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I’m convinced that 1-2.5 mil GSP is where all the try-hards who watched hours of YouTube guides and know how to tech, reverse aerial rush and do infinite combos, but not actually win play. There is a distinct rating when you go from fighting them to fighting players who have clearly never played a character or even the game before. Going from 2.5 to 7 million GSP is like 10 easy games. Every new character I pick up has been like this.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 21:31 |
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nexous posted:I’m convinced that 1-2.5 mil GSP is where all the try-hards who watched hours of YouTube guides and know how to tech, reverse aerial rush and do infinite combos, but not actually win play. a lot of people just can't breach the brain barrier that Smash isn't like fighting games where doing big combos leads to winning, or not directly anyway personally I think it's funny when people get K. Rool to 200% and then they just don't know what to do 'cause he t h i c c
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 21:41 |
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I on the other hand have never learned how to play Smash and just use smash and B attacks if they're powerful and don't have a gigantic windup or Cool down like Donkey Kong or Samus. No idea how to play offstage or land Ryu, Ken or Terry's spike attack correctly or do their inputs consistently, I am garbage. Spirit mode was real tough for me.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 21:57 |
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I fell from 9.4 million to out of Elite in 5 games today, and every one was a close 2v2. I got right back in, but drat that's frustrating
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:05 |
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nexous posted:I’m convinced that 1-2.5 mil GSP is where all the try-hards who watched hours of YouTube guides and know how to tech, reverse aerial rush and do infinite combos, but not actually win play. There is a distinct rating when you go from fighting them to fighting players who have clearly never played a character or even the game before. Going from 2.5 to 7 million GSP is like 10 easy games. I have the opposite problem, where I've played the game like an amateur for nearly two decades and have strong fundamentals but find it extremely hard to learn advanced techniques or integrate them consciously into my playstyle, so I can scrape up against Elite Smash but inevitably but my arse handed to me as soon as I fight someone who has trained to play competitively. One thing I noticed playing with a friend who only started playing a few years ago, who seems to think very consciously about his actions and can describe in detail what he did in a match, whereas I more or less play on instinct and anything past the last few seconds is pretty much a blur. How do other people play, does that description of playstyles make sense to anyone else?
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nexous posted:I’m convinced that 1-2.5 mil GSP is where all the try-hards who watched hours of YouTube guides and know how to tech, reverse aerial rush and do infinite combos, but not actually win play. There is a distinct rating when you go from fighting them to fighting players who have clearly never played a character or even the game before. Going from 2.5 to 7 million GSP is like 10 easy games. The funny part about this is that once your GSP is low enough, Nintendo realizes you're a smurf and penalizes all of your GSP gains, so all of the smurfs have basically banished themselves to the Smurf Zone forever.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:11 |
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:The idiots who have never played Smash before are playing free-for-all. the STUPID loving MORONS who have the AUDACITY to have never played SUPER SMASH BROS
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:18 |
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Those aren't tryhards, they're smurfs. The idiots who have never played Smash before are playing free-for-all. Anyone playing 1v1 at a GSP that low put their GSP there intentionally to try to get easy wins. I just prefer 1v1 and am not very good. Wait, is this why I'm having so much trouble getting up past 600k? EDIT: I misremembered, it's 6mil not 600k. All I remembered was that it was a big number that starts with 6. Ariong fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 11, 2021 |
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multijoe posted:How do other people play, does that description of playstyles make sense to anyone else? I definitely go by instinct. Reading the critique of my play earlier and asking myself why I did dumb stuff that got pointed out I realized the answer was always “it just seemed right.” So trying to reverse some bad habits is gonna be hard. Though when I get baked I often end up playing much slower and methodically and win more.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:22 |
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The trick to winning in Smash is don't be the guy jumping at the other one, be the guy standing there waiting for the other person to jump at you. Then when you master this skill you can become the guy jumping around the other guys standing there waiting for you to jump on them and then from there ascend into heaven.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:23 |
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Ariong posted:I just prefer 1v1 and am not very good. I swear 600k is harder than 5 mil. Could just be people chain wizard punching and pk firing and throwing gordos that I have no practice dealing with because nobody does it at higher GSP.
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Ariong posted:I just prefer 1v1 and am not very good.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:25 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Pretty similar to how Pikachu and Raichu in the games are mediocre at best. But might be that Jigglypuff (along with its cute pink counterpart Clefairy) was apparently considered as a primary mascot of the franchise, and the anime uses it a lot basically as a plot device and/or filler. (I mostly remember the episode where Jigglypuff gets into a slapfight with an entire spaceship full of Clefairy, that was fun) And Sing is way overpowered even in Smash, let alone in the anime, since in the games it's a ridiculously inaccurate move. Raichu is very good actually and has seen a lot of play at Worlds over the years.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 22:26 |
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Haven't dropped out of elite in a long time now. Still can't deal with players that just jump at lightning speed. They're completely my achilles heel. I can't catch em in there air, I can't shield against them, they'll always grab me out of it. They're consistently the one type of player I just can't wrap my head around. This isn't that they're an annoying character like Link or something, it's specifically the player behavior of jumping around really fast, and they just run circles around me. I get like physically exhausted in real life
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multijoe posted:I have the opposite problem, where I've played the game like an amateur for nearly two decades and have strong fundamentals but find it extremely hard to learn advanced techniques or integrate them consciously into my playstyle, so I can scrape up against Elite Smash but inevitably but my arse handed to me as soon as I fight someone who has trained to play competitively. This is exactly how I play. I have a decent feel for everything but I don’t know how to do many combos or whatever. Playing online I can tell someone when someone is new because they’ll do like a nice 0 to 50 combo on me and then just not know how to play past that. I’m not very good, I’ve just been playing these games for most of my life at this point.
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RareAcumen posted:I on the other hand have never learned how to play Smash and just use smash and B attacks if they're powerful and don't have a gigantic windup or Cool down like Donkey Kong or Samus. Honestly this is more or less where I am and I don't play multiplayer much. I forget to do throws and shield, and I like to play kirby and mess around with copy abilities.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 05:50 |
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As long as we're confessing how terrible we are at the game, I haven't even bought Nintendo's online service and play like someone who's lived under a rock all his life. No thoughts, head empty, all Smash attacks.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 06:11 |
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As long as we're confessing how terrible we are at the game, the only character I have ever gotten to elite smash is Little Mac
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 06:39 |
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Bleck posted:the STUPID loving MORONS who have the AUDACITY to have never played SUPER SMASH BROS There is a rigid and positive correlation between intelligence and playing Smash.
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Supersonic Shine posted:As long as we're confessing how terrible we are at the game, I haven't even bought Nintendo's online service and play like someone who's lived under a rock all his life. No thoughts, head empty, all Smash attacks. I have normal bog standard internet and I'm not invested in or good at any game to want to pay the for the online functionality. I have a PS4 as well that I never bought online services for. Doesn't help that I'm terminally antisocial and only played things single player for the most part. The only times I've interacted with mutliplayer on the PS4 is Warframe and Genshin Impact and that's just because they're free. Also I just said that I'm bad at Smash and don't know how to do any combos and much prefer to do a big punch for 23% damage than up attack someone to death 3 times so I'd be torn apart in multiplayer trying to play Hero or Terry against people who know what all the buttons do and how to exploit them against other people.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 06:57 |
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The Golux posted:Honestly this is more or less where I am and I don't play multiplayer much. I forget to do throws and shield, and I like to play kirby and mess around with copy abilities. See that's cool. I got my Ness into Elite, which I'm proud of because I think I'm pretty ok with Ness, but I also just like loving around. 1v1 is too try-hard for me at times, Free-for-all is a lot of fun. I don't do Online much anymore though because though I have a very good wireless connection, it's nonetheless wireless, and it's gotten more obvious as of late. I still prefer goofing around. Whenever I fight a Kirby I always let them eat me for example. Dedede's, Links, Samus's and the like I try to play baseball with, but it's hard to telegraph it. Still when I come across another clown it's a good time.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 08:54 |
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I never use dodges, shields or throws. Ever. This is why I'm bad at Smash and always lose. It also doesn't help I don't have any character movesets memorized so I don't immediately know whether it's better to go for a tilt or smash, and I have absolutely no idea what to do when I'm in the air except press A and a random direction and hope something good happens.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 09:59 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:I never use dodges, shields or throws. Ever. This is why I'm bad at Smash and always lose. I probably roll too much and most of the people I end up playing as have a sword so I barely bother with throws but this is basically me
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signalnoise posted:As long as we're confessing how terrible we are at the game, the only character I have ever gotten to elite smash is Little Mac okay but that's the hardest one, imo,
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 10:13 |
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RareAcumen posted:I probably roll too much and most of the people I end up playing as have a sword so I barely bother with throws but this is basically me Throws are good but are necessary depending on your character. Ness has some terrific throws so I use them all the time.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Those aren't tryhards, they're smurfs. The idiots who have never played Smash before are playing free-for-all. Anyone playing 1v1 at a GSP that low put their GSP there intentionally to try to get easy wins. I'm playing 1v1 at a GSP that low because I made the mistake of starting with the character I want to main online, before I knew about Ethernet adapters for the Switch. Although nexous comment also describes me. I just don't lag as much.
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multijoe posted:I have the opposite problem, where I've played the game like an amateur for nearly two decades and have strong fundamentals but find it extremely hard to learn advanced techniques or integrate them consciously into my playstyle, so I can scrape up against Elite Smash but inevitably but my arse handed to me as soon as I fight someone who has trained to play competitively. I am you I'm probably the best in my friend group and I've played tons of every smash but I just gently caress around, I'm not putting in hours alone practicing. I play each new character for like an hour when I get it and then just play with my friends. I never even play online. It's all smash instinct now. I used to main "everyone" but that really isn't possible any more. I have like two dozen I'm good with and three that are "ok last match do your best" worthy Variety is why I play smash. Crazy levels. Most items on. Change characters every match. I'll never be an elite pro, but that's ok
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 12:30 |
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the only way to truly win at quickplay is to not play you're more likely to have an opponent either picking insanely stupid rules or picking some lovely "I'm intentionally playing on wireless" character than to even have a chance at a fun time go find some friends or a community and play with them instead also: if you do decide to use quickplay, do your best not to even think about elite smash, regardless if you're in it or not. it's just added stress that more often than not impedes on either the enjoyment of the game or your ability to improve Tonetta fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Apr 8, 2021 |
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I've never gotten into Elite Smash because every single time I have ever tried a red bar superstar appears right at the cusp to knock a few hundred thousand points off and start Sisyphus's 10k a win crawl back up the mountain anew I'm pretty sure I'm one win from it on Ridley at the moment but Zeus will not be tricking me again e: Since we're talking about it how do point gains and losses work in 3 or 4 player ffa? Does only first get them? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Apr 8, 2021 |
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Tonetta posted:you're more likely to have an opponent either picking insanely stupid rules or picking some lovely "I'm intentionally playing on wireless" character than to even have a chance at a fun time My favorite ever quickplay was somebody who had picked Sonic and (whatever that big Ness city level is) and the only item was the flag one that gives you an extra stock/point. He just ran around pick those up and coming to poke me if I tried to pick one up. A very different game.
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Muscle Tracer posted:My favorite ever quickplay was somebody who had picked Sonic and (whatever that big Ness city level is) and the only item was the flag one that gives you an extra stock/point. He just ran around pick those up and coming to poke me if I tried to pick one up. A very different game. come on step it up
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 15:48 |
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Don't play quickplay for elite smash, don't play it for getting better, really anything other than this one thing clips that are funny to you https://i.imgur.com/K2D1bvN.mp4 lol lmao
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 15:51 |
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Playing quick play to make laggy Wifi Sonics ragequit when they realize how your very active nair interacts with their homing attack
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 16:24 |
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I play quick play pretty much exclusively and all the flaws in the world are made up for by the fact that I can play smash brothers against someone at any time and it usually is pretty good. I haven't had that experience since college.
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 16:30 |
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nobody rematches me win or lose since i started playing pyra mythra which is frankly bullshit
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scary ghost dog posted:nobody rematches me win or lose since i started playing pyra mythra which is frankly bullshit That's cause A) they are miserable to fight, but mostly B) the GSP system discourages rematching. They should really make it so that rewatching doesn't do anything to GSP. And you can say GSP and elite doesn't matter all day. That little number going down does Bad Things to people's brains (I'm people. I would love to just be able to turn off the GSP display).
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 17:43 |
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its not miserable to fight me since im not very good and i usually dont bother switching characters unless im losing which usually just makes me lose faster
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# ? Apr 8, 2021 17:46 |
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Macaluso posted:That's cause A) they are miserable to fight, but mostly B) the GSP system discourages rematching. They should really make it so that rewatching doesn't do anything to GSP. My rule is I fight 2/3 with people unless I absolutely roll somebody because I don’t find those particularly enjoyable to play on repeat. Also Pyra/Mythra really aren’t very miserable to fight against
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My worst habit is that I never chase my opponent off-stage, because I've somehow internalized that whatever encounter happens out there, I'll lose. Intercepting recovery is hell to practice against CPUs, in particular, because they always perfectly time air dodges and parries.
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