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hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Statutory Ape posted:

As a secondary, but related question, do any of you have any experience with programs that let you mix volumes of individual tasks in windows? I know windows has its own volume mixer, but as an example, one of the games I play has native volume levels so low that I thought it was muted with my music between 15-20% volume. I've seen https://www.letasoft.com/ mentioned a couple of places, wondering if anybody had some thoughts?

It would be nice to be able to hear my TIE fighter over dimmu borgir, basically

Windows does have the ability to change the volume of individual programs already.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:


As a secondary, but related question, do any of you have any experience with programs that let you mix volumes of individual tasks in windows? I know windows has its own volume mixer, but as an example, one of the games I play has native volume levels so low that I thought it was muted with my music between 15-20% volume. I've seen https://www.letasoft.com/ mentioned a couple of places, wondering if anybody had some thoughts?

It would be nice to be able to hear my TIE fighter over dimmu borgir, basically

RDR2 has had this bug in windows forever which sets the game audio to like 15%. You have to alt tab out and manually adjust it nearly every drat time.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same issue with whatever game you are trying.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

It's 100% not the issue unless windows has a second volume mixer hidden

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Statutory Ape posted:

It's 100% not the issue unless windows has a second volume mixer hidden

When the game is open do you see it in the volume mixer?

I’m going to assume so. It would have its own entry.

You might have to scroll to see it.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Thanks Ants posted:

Something like a headphone mixer would be the perfect way to do this

https://artproaudio.com/product/powermix-iii-three-channel-personal-stereo-mixer/

I did something similar so I could be sure to hear notification sounds from my work computer when listening to music on my personal computer. It works quite well. If I was going to be using my phone as a source, I'd probably also want to get a stereo BT receiver to use as an input.

Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending
Grimey Drawer
I'm in the final stages of building a new desktop, close to the point of turning it on for the first time.

It'll be a fresh install of Windows10 (probably 64 pro), and I'd like to install as much critical software as possible before connecting to the internet. So I'd ask, what software should I consider installing to make my general operation, web browsing, anti-virus, and gaming experience a good one?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Check out ninite for these sorts of things. I wouldn’t install any antivirus or malware protection, windows defender is good enough.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Yeah tbh windows handles almost everything pretty drat well now.

I’ve mostly switched over to the new edge browser over chrome as well.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I mean, the most important thing to install is Windows updates anyway. When you're installing I'd create an installation media USB drive from Microsoft and let it install and update. Then if you want to disconnect from the internet you can, but ultimately everything you install is going to need to update anyway...so it's not really worth the trouble IMHO.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Bootcha posted:

I'm in the final stages of building a new desktop, close to the point of turning it on for the first time.

It'll be a fresh install of Windows10 (probably 64 pro), and I'd like to install as much critical software as possible before connecting to the internet. So I'd ask, what software should I consider installing to make my general operation, web browsing, anti-virus, and gaming experience a good one?

Defender ships with Windows. Don't install 3rd party AV.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I'd say download your drivers in advance and don't let Windows install or update those just in general, but I'm not 100% sure that's for everyone and every device.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





doctorfrog posted:

I'd say download your drivers in advance and don't let Windows install or update those just in general, but I'm not 100% sure that's for everyone and every device.

What? Why? The drivers that Windows installs from Windows Update are usually the best drivers to use! Other than your graphics card.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Internet Explorer posted:

What? Why? The drivers that Windows installs from Windows Update are usually the best drivers to use! Other than your graphics card.

Yeah honestly at this point you can let windows do it’s thing then tweak it from there.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

doctorfrog posted:

I'd say download your drivers in advance and don't let Windows install or update those just in general, but I'm not 100% sure that's for everyone and every device.

If you're going to manage your own drivers in the future, then yes this is a good idea. Turn off driver updating via windows update before getting on the internet, and manually install them from the start.

OTOH unless you're a Big Gamer or have unusual hardware, I think windows update driver delivery is pretty decent. I've been letting WU do the thing on my laptop; I get video drivers every 3-6 months, realtek drivers once or twice a year, and occasional other things. And once a bios firmware update, which was a trip to watch!


tldr; if you don't really care about your drivers, letting windows manage them seems ok.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Letting Windows grab the drivers tends to work fine now. If it doesnt know, it'll throw the drivers into an "optional" category.

I have it set as auto for my gaming and all my work computers and it's been OK.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



On the Surface Pro 4 it kept constantly trying to install new drivers for the infrared camera that completely broke Windows Hello. So I'd roll back and tell it to skip this iteration. And then a month later there'd be a new version, that broke it some other way. At some point I stopped keeping track and now it takes half a minute to recognize me instead of two seconds. Which is when I went back to using a pin. A shame. Used to work fantastically.

So, I'm in the "don't allow it to gently caress up your working drivers" camp.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Flipperwaldt posted:

On the Surface Pro 4 it kept constantly trying to install new drivers for the infrared camera that completely broke Windows Hello. So I'd roll back and tell it to skip this iteration. And then a month later there'd be a new version, that broke it some other way. At some point I stopped keeping track and now it takes half a minute to recognize me instead of two seconds. Which is when I went back to using a pin. A shame. Used to work fantastically.

So, I'm in the "don't allow it to gently caress up your working drivers" camp.

Windows Hello is pretty neat, but I'd say it falls under

Klyith posted:

unusual hardware

for the time being, and is definitely a good reason to be cautious with updates as opposed to regular cameras on most laptops and tablets.

E: the facial recognition, that is. Fingerprint readers seem pretty consistent.

Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Apr 10, 2021

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Fruits of the sea posted:

Windows Hello is pretty neat, but I'd say it falls under


for the time being, and is definitely a good reason to be cautious with updates as opposed to regular cameras on most laptops and tablets.

E: the facial recognition, that is. Fingerprint readers seem pretty consistent.

An infrared camera is deff unusual, but you'd think MS would make sure the correct drivers for their own hardware product were on windows update.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I've had problems with Surface cameras for the last six months, even outside of Windows Hello, where it would constantly install a new driver that straight out broke the camera in every application and the only solution was overwriting it with a standalone Surface driver. It's only recently they seem to have gotten it under control.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

I don't think Microsoft actually gives much of a poo poo about the Surface.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
I use openssh to access my win10 PC through a terminal. I run three or four scripts regularly this way but I have trouble remembering their names so I'd like to change the login message that gets displayed when the shell starts. I know on unix systems I can just edit /etc/motd, but that doesn't seem to be the case on windows 10.

This is what my current shell looks like after logging in:


I'm talking about the message at the top of the terminal. Where does this message come from?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

You can apparently add your own MOTD with a registry value pointing to a file to process:

https://it.knightnet.org.uk/2009/05/how-to-show-a-message-of-the-day-motd-at-the-windows-command-prompt.html

I did a quick check and it worked for me under HKEY_CURRENT_USER, at the very least.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

VelociBacon posted:

I'm Canadian also and I think they actually write it as "checks" for some reason, zut alors.

I have a checkbook and a prepaid debit card. I can deposit cash on the card for a $3 fee (up to $5000, money available immediately) or an emergency check reload up to $2500 + a 5% fee (funds available after about 15 minutes 24/7). I hate the fee, but it’s happened before that I need ~$50 or so on a Saturday night and I don’t find a % fee unmanageable for that amount. I don’t even know my bank account number or have any access to my money because my mother is my Representative Payee for my payments for the last 20-odd years and I asked her to set it up that way so I don’t give away my monthly check to homeless people anymore :D

At least I don’t actually go into a store an d buy milk and bread for >$5 and fill out a check in line at Kroger, though.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

DerekSmartymans posted:

I have a checkbook and a prepaid debit card. I can deposit cash on the card for a $3 fee (up to $5000, money available immediately) or an emergency check reload up to $2500 + a 5% fee (funds available after about 15 minutes 24/7). I hate the fee, but it’s happened before that I need ~$50 or so on a Saturday night and I don’t find a % fee unmanageable for that amount. I don’t even know my bank account number or have any access to my money because my mother is my Representative Payee for my payments for the last 20-odd years and I asked her to set it up that way so I don’t give away my monthly check to homeless people anymore :D

At least I don’t actually go into a store an d buy milk and bread for >$5 and fill out a check in line at Kroger, though.

I appreciate this is probably not a made up situation but that sounds a lot like one? I guess if you didn't just give entire paycheques randomly to people you'd be considered responsible enough to have a normal banking situation or something but it feels like I fell on the wrong side of an unmedicated poster a little bit. I hope things improve for you my goon!

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Tesseraction posted:

On the off chance you haven't wiped your machine or anything, one thing that might help you diagnose is running Sysinternals Procexp which can tell you what process activated firefox if you leave it closed overnight.

I actually used this when a goon (drat you Greg) coded and installed a benign virus.

Goddamn it, Greg! Grow up!

Oh, yeah. The advice above Goddamn Greg’s prank is really good.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

VelociBacon posted:

appreciate this is probably not a made up situation but that sounds a lot like one? I guess if you didn't just give entire paycheques randomly to people you'd be considered responsible enough to have a normal banking situation or something but it feels like I fell on the wrong side of an unmedicated poster a little bit. I hope things improve for you my goon!

Yeah 0 problems with what you said, and I’ve never taken offense because, well, we all mostly don’t know each other!

I am a paranoid schizophrenic. I’m not unmedicated, but it’s been 20 years now and getting worse every year or so because of drug tolerance issues. I actually had SA recognize me slipping unaware (at the time) into a tolerance-compromised psychosis because of differences from my normal posting.

I am horrible with money when my meds are temporarily stopped or losing effectiveness and my psychiatrist admits me for a couple of weeks to months until everything seems to be working.

My parents have power of attorney for me, and the big difference is only the process we’ve adopted so I can have access to money from my SSD benefits. Mainly, it keeps me from out and out wasting money while still being able to have a mostly normal lifestyle (before Covid). I can ask for any amount as long as I can itemize exactly why I think I need a certain number. I usually have $85-90 to my card a month just for buying things from Amazon or Goodreads or software with subscriptions/needed. I used to cash a check on Saturday and go to a movie or bookstore, go eat (twice; most solo trips to town are all day excursions), or even just the library for a while. Again, before Covid. Occasionally I’d go to a casino with friends, and they know I can’t be very spontaneous but I can commit if I get even a few hours lead to cash a check for cash. The only thing my checks are even used for is paying my meager bills or paying family back after like my sister gives me a bit while shopping with her on a Sunday or something.

I really appreciate the good vibes, though! If you had anything to ask or just want to call me names I do have plat so PMs are fine.

Edit: sorry about the double post. And how wordy this was, but I’ve thought for years that a mental illness is a disease, and I never saw a patient feel self conscious over sickle-cell or juvenile diabetes. As for posting a lot? I have always written a ton throughout childhood to medical school, and it’s a pretty useful hobby during quarantine even after everyone in the house has had both vaccinations. I ain’t ashamed or anything, but I don’t wanna derail this thread. PMs always open.

DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Apr 27, 2021

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

DerekSmartymans posted:

Yeah 0 problems with what you said, and I’ve never taken offense because, well, we all mostly don’t know each other!

I am a paranoid schizophrenic. I’m not unmedicated, but it’s been 20 years now and getting worse every year or so because of drug tolerance issues. I actually had SA recognize me slipping unaware (at the time) into a tolerance-compromised psychosis because of differences from my normal posting.

I am horrible with money when my meds are temporarily stopped or losing effectiveness and my psychiatrist admits me for a couple of weeks to months until everything seems to be working.

My parents have power of attorney for me, and the big difference is only the process we’ve adopted so I can have access to money from my SSD benefits. Mainly, it keeps me from out and out wasting money while still being able to have a mostly normal lifestyle (before Covid). I can ask for any amount as long as I can itemize exactly why I think I need a certain number. I usually have $85-90 to my card a month just for buying things from Amazon or Goodreads or software with subscriptions/needed. I used to cash a check on Saturday and go to a movie or bookstore, go eat (twice; most solo trips to town are all day excursions), or even just the library for a while. Again, before Covid. Occasionally I’d go to a casino with friends, and they know I can’t be very spontaneous but I can commit if I get even a few hours lead to cash a check for cash. The only thing my checks are even used for is paying my meager bills or paying family back after like my sister gives me a bit while shopping with her on a Sunday or something.

I really appreciate the good vibes, though! If you had anything to ask or just want to call me names I do have plat so PMs are fine.

Edit: sorry about the double post. And how wordy this was, but I’ve thought for years that a mental illness is a disease, and I never saw a patient feel self conscious over sickle-cell or juvenile diabetes. As for posting a lot? I have always written a ton throughout childhood to medical school, and it’s a pretty useful hobby during quarantine even after everyone in the house has had both vaccinations. I ain’t ashamed or anything, but I don’t wanna derail this thread. PMs always open.

Wishing all the best for you. this sounds like a very difficult time, but it sounds like you’re taking the right steps and I commend your efforts, which must be pretty challenging at times. Continue taking care of yourself fellow goon

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Last Chance posted:

Continue taking care of talking to yourself fellow goon

ftfy :aaa:

Seriously, though, things are going well right now. I appreciate the goodn vibes!

Eregos
Aug 17, 2006

A Reversal of Fortune, Perhaps?
Have a weird problem I can't diagnose. All audio (regardless of output application or physical output source) starts getting millisecond interruptions several times a second every few seconds the longer my computer is turned on. Even leaving Win 10 running without any manually started applications for several hours the problem starts. The audio troubleshooter fixed this problem exactly once, ever since it's had no impact. Only solution has been to restart or sign out. I tried uninstalling superfluous audio drivers, reinstalling, updating, no effect.

I also tried
code:
net stop audiosrv
Sleep 10
net stop AudioEndpointBuilder
Sleep 10
net start audiosrv
Sleep 10
net start AudioEndpointBuilder

to no effect. Maybe there's more audio processes I could try killing?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

What is the resource load like over that time? On my older PC I had issues like that after running applications for too long, particularly Firefox which seemed to love loving around with my memory usage. Not saying you're in a similar situation but it doesn't sound like a service issue so much as something else getting in the way.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Eregos posted:

Have a weird problem I can't diagnose. All audio (regardless of output application or physical output source) starts getting millisecond interruptions several times a second every few seconds the longer my computer is turned on. Even leaving Win 10 running without any manually started applications for several hours the problem starts. The audio troubleshooter fixed this problem exactly once, ever since it's had no impact. Only solution has been to restart or sign out. I tried uninstalling superfluous audio drivers, reinstalling, updating, no effect.

I also tried
code:
net stop audiosrv
Sleep 10
net stop AudioEndpointBuilder
Sleep 10
net start audiosrv
Sleep 10
net start AudioEndpointBuilder

to no effect. Maybe there's more audio processes I could try killing?

Does sound work normally from other operating systems? Maybe it's a hardware issue.

Eregos
Aug 17, 2006

A Reversal of Fortune, Perhaps?
I've had a persistent problem with explorer CPU spikes, which I'm guessing is related to something specific to my setup and I've had for years, like maybe the GPU or motherboard. It got somewhat better when I reinstalled in 2019. I didn't have the sound issue back then. I checked resource monitor, I still get cutouts even when no network, cpu cores, memory or disk is maxed. Though the explorer spikes can worsen it.


I do suspect it's a hardware issue somehow. My build is from Jan 2016 and I'll probably upgrade in a few months anyways, fresh everything should deal with it.

Eregos fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Apr 28, 2021

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Eregos posted:

I've had a persistent problem with explorer CPU spikes, which I'm guessing is related to something specific to my setup and I've had for years, like maybe the GPU or motherboard. It got somewhat better when I reinstalled in 2019. I didn't have the sound issue back then. I checked resource monitor, I still get cutouts even when no network, cpu cores, memory or disk is maxed. Though the explorer spikes can worsen it.


I do suspect it's a hardware issue somehow. My build is from Jan 2016 and I'll probably upgrade in a few months anyways, fresh everything should deal with it.

Explorer CPU spikes are usually due to shell extensions that are malfunctioning, tons of programs silently install their own extensions. Download Autoruns (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns) and disable extensions in the "Explorer" tab.

(unfortunately, the latest version of Autoruns seems to have a bug where it doesn't hide Windows entries - that includes plenty that aren't listed as "Microsoft" - like usual, just disable third-party extensions )

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Apr 28, 2021

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Anyone have any good Windows / O365 / Azure blogs or resources to follow?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





eonwe posted:

Anyone have any good Windows / O365 / Azure blogs or resources to follow?

Might check in with the more general IT threads. I'd bet folks there have some suggestions.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Great. I keep running into an issue with svchost memory leak. I installed the windows update that was specifically FOR that issue, and nothing :\

Or rather, I keep "fixing" it, and keeps coming back. I stop as many of the services as I can related to svchost, and sometimes it's one of them, and sometimes, it's a service that cannot be stopped.
It is currently eating up 6 GB.

I have Security Essentials running a full scan every night.


I guess this is Windows way of saying " Hey, maybe reset your computer more than once every 6 months" :\



While I am here, is there a way of ....seeing further into the Firefox processes? Like, I have one that keeps pegging the CPU 15-25% and I would like to delve deeper into that, at least deeper than just killing that process every so often.

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

Johnny Aztec posted:

Great. I keep running into an issue with svchost memory leak. I installed the windows update that was specifically FOR that issue, and nothing :\

Or rather, I keep "fixing" it, and keeps coming back. I stop as many of the services as I can related to svchost, and sometimes it's one of them, and sometimes, it's a service that cannot be stopped.
It is currently eating up 6 GB.

While I am here, is there a way of ....seeing further into the Firefox processes? Like, I have one that keeps pegging the CPU 15-25% and I would like to delve deeper into that, at least deeper than just killing that process every so often.

Firefox: go to about :performance.

About service. in resource monitor you can select the the service host in memory tab and see services it runs in cpu tab. Also since 1703 each service gets it's own servicehost.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask but I just bought a 2TB NVME to replace my 256GB one. Not sure how to clone my first one on to my spinny disc and boot.

I can use a flash drive to do a fresh install I guess but I'd like to just make this seamless.

Thoughts or directions to the right thread?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Not sure if this is the right thread to ask but I just bought a 2TB NVME to replace my 256GB one. Not sure how to clone my first one on to my spinny disc and boot.

I can use a flash drive to do a fresh install I guess but I'd like to just make this seamless.

Thoughts or directions to the right thread?

Macrium Reflect free version

Cloning a small drive to a large drive, you can expand the main partition by dragging partitions to the target one at a time, and click cloned partition properties when you get to the one you want to resize. full instructions


One asterisk: if your current system was an upgrade from 7 to 10, I would strongly consider doing a fresh 10 install. It's a pain in the rear end, but enough has changed about windows' preferred partition layout, size of recovery partition, GPT vs MBR, and UEFI stuff that I think it's worth doing.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 4, 2021

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Windows Defender is a default block, correct?

I'm running WSL2 and getting X11 working, and am trying to make a rule that restricts the X11 ports to ONLY the WSL2 subnet. So I make a rule that specifies the port, and in the Scope tabe for 'remote ip address' I put the WSL2 subnet. However with this rule active the port is still accessible to the world. My expectation is that any address outside the specified subnet would get blocked.

I'm more of a linux person and while I kinda understand the difference in philosophy between iptables and the defender firewall, clearly I'm missing something.

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