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merk posted:Somb could have been redirected n1. Uughhhhh I don’t want to think about night actions but ‘could’?
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Sandwolf posted:Uughhhhh I don’t want to think about night actions but ‘could’? Yeah who knows. I think we are also probably just buying into IA saying he went nowhere a little too much, looking at his post history and that inconsistency I am thinking he’s the best vote today
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Apr 11, 2021 19:46
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Sandwolf posted:Uughhhhh I don’t want to think about night actions but ‘could’? Yes, either me or somb was redirected n1. If it was me, somb investigated you as town. If it was somb, he investigated me as town.
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Apr 11, 2021 19:47
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Hal Insandenza posted:Yeah who knows. I think we are also probably just buying into IA saying he went nowhere a little too much, looking at his post history and that inconsistency I am thinking he’s the best vote today I think it’s Toal today. Their d1 vote is a bus, and they aren’t thinking critically today with the analysis on me.
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Apr 11, 2021 19:48
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I am having a busier weekend than I though so I haven’t had a lot of time to really dig back, but i do think the toal case has merit and I have felt their posting was a bit insincere this game. Haven’t looked at the D1 steak vote timing yet either though. I will have some time waiting in airport this afternoon though, more to follow
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Apr 11, 2021 19:51
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merk posted:I think it’s Toal today. Their d1 vote is a bus, and they aren’t thinking critically today with the analysis on me. Yeah not against it, but seeing IA flip some sort of redirecting or bus driving role would be very helpful
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Apr 11, 2021 19:52
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merk posted:I think it’s Toal today. Their d1 vote is a bus, and they aren’t thinking critically today with the analysis on me. this is pretty unfair
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Apr 11, 2021 20:12
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Hal Insandenza posted:Yeah who knows. I think we are also probably just buying into IA saying he went nowhere a little too much, looking at his post history and that inconsistency I am thinking he’s the best vote today Hal Insandenza posted:Yeah not against it, but seeing IA flip some sort of redirecting or bus driving role would be very helpful this is so incredibly passive hal. who do you wanna execute first, toal or ia.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:16
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Lotus Aura posted:Per Somber's claim for who he copped, Sand and Grandi came up Town but merk tracked somber... to merk. So merk and Grandi are Town. Isn't it really convenient that all of sombers results were filtered through night actions involving merk's actions and a undiscovered redirecter? To clear merk? Night action bingo is trusting that there's a redirection that makes everything sensible. Playing town is taking the contradictory claims in thread and solving them by executing people.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:24
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Toalpaz posted:yet, if merk played the game knowing this it would be easy to take advantage of your goodwill and assume merk to be town for making such a preposterous play. This whole 'this is a sudden and convenient turn for toal to take' is bullshit, because I even brought this up yesterday and was ignored by thread.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:27
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Toalpaz posted:Isn't it really convenient that all of sombers results were filtered through night actions involving merk's actions and a undiscovered redirecter? To clear merk? So I busdrove my godfather d1 and then setup a Tracker fakeclaim with results that aren’t even correct ten posts into d2?
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Apr 11, 2021 20:28
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Toalpaz posted:if this is how you all feel I'd be most comfortable executing RF or lotus then, in order to assume everyone is telling the truth and there's a third unknown role out there that enables merk, somber, and IA to all be telling the truth. EDIT sorry this is the post, that other one was start of day.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:28
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merk posted:So I busdrove my godfather d1 and then setup a Tracker fakeclaim with results that aren’t even correct ten posts into d2? you are scum tracker, it isn't a fake claim in that sense. yes you would bus the gently caress out of steak if you felt him going down.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:29
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I still prefer IA today as our best shot, but don't mind Toal as an alternative since their posting today has been a lot more... I dunno, panic-y? Probably not the best word for it, but it has that kinda feeling to it.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:31
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Toalpaz posted:EDIT Donno if I noticed it before or not, but that list leaves out Grandi (fair enough) and Sandwolf, which... is actually kinda odd?
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Toalpaz posted:you are scum tracker, it isn't a fake claim in that sense. I voted Steak with my first vote. I explained why. I then came back and analyzed more ending with a continued vote on Steak. When Voodoo offered a switch to someone else (RF?), I declined saying I think we found scum because no one was defending him or bringing up another candidate. What rational scum play is that?
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Apr 11, 2021 20:32
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Toalpaz posted:you are scum tracker, it isn't a fake claim in that sense. merk was the first vote on Steak, though, and expanded on it a couple times before it even picked up traction. That's not feeling him going down; that'd be intentionally shoving him down an elevator shaft. Do you really think scum would do that on D1 to the Godfather of all people?
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Apr 11, 2021 20:33
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Lotus Aura posted:Donno if I noticed it before or not, but that list leaves out Grandi (fair enough) and Sandwolf, which... is actually kinda odd? this was before I bothered to do all the math and read your post, I assumed sandwolf and grandi were copped town
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All I'm saying is I think it's utterly possible and the claim seems fake.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:35
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Toalpaz posted:you are scum tracker, it isn't a fake claim in that sense. It felt like merk was the one who initiated and kept the steak push going though Toalpaz posted:this is so incredibly passive hal. who do you wanna execute first, toal or ia. That’s not accurate. In both those posts I say I would like to see IA flip Your recent posting is making me even more fine with you as an alternative though
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Apr 11, 2021 20:35
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merk posted:Reading it again: that line from Steak is bothering me so much because he uses a poorly thought out meta case that he trumps up with the word 'reeks' to make it sound more impressive. merk posted:Why attack a straw man? merk posted:It's weird that no one is defending Steak and no one is putting up an alternate candidate. We could be right on him. Like.... if steak couldn't survive this vicious bussing, he deserved to die...
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Apr 11, 2021 20:37
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You're all overestimating the complexity of the night claims, and the bussing... and you're allowing yourselves to overestimate the amount of bussing merk did vs the amount he's leaned on it for credit very blatently. But its 'merk' so him taking credit and making outlandish claims is fine.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:45
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I'm mostly disturbed that people seem to be unwilling to even consider the fact that toal is town making a bad case, which is something I'd expect town merk to do.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:48
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Toalpaz posted:I'm mostly disturbed that people seem to be unwilling to even consider the fact that toal is town making a bad case, which is something I'd expect town merk to do. I did and have been trying to get you to understand how bad of a case it is to see if you’d search elsewhere. Instead, you are doubling down at every opportunity and making demonstrably false statements.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:52
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##unvote I'm pretty frustrated, and I swear to god if one of you argues in end of game that I was throwing the game with my stubbornness I'd be even more frustrated because you can't differentiate between effort and white noise.
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Apr 11, 2021 20:53
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##vote IA I'd rather do IA than me today so.
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Apr 11, 2021 21:01
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Toalpaz posted:##unvote You sat out all of d1 and ended with what looks to me like a pretty clear bus. D1 is where my attention is today - you and IA are the two bussiest votes. If you have a good case to make today to not be where my vote is, I’d like to see it.
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Apr 11, 2021 21:01
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merk posted:You sat out all of d1 and ended with what looks to me like a pretty clear bus. D1 is where my attention is today - you and IA are the two bussiest votes. eat poo poo merk!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 11, 2021 21:26
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Toalp is town. They are wrong, but town. ##vote IA
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Apr 11, 2021 21:49
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Scum are in Hal, IA, and Lotus. Possibly Sandwolf, but way less likely. I am not voting merk or Toalp for the rest of the game pretty much. I feel pretty good about Sandwolf, but not town lock good.
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Ok, I can hammer IA.
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##vote IA
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 Hey, that's a hammer for Idle Amalgam!Votecount for Day 4 With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2021 at 2 a.m. UTC -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.
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The argument started to get extremely heated, certain people’s night time activities didn’t seem to match what they claimed, one particular culprit was IA. “Listen buddy, I seen you skulking around last night and now you trying ta tell me I ain’t seen what I seen?” “I told you I was relaxing at home! Stressful this rat hunting business let me tell ya. You been on the sauce or something?” “I’ve had enough of this, grab his phone!” They pinned IA down and searched him, his cell phone was clean, no sign of anything untoward... however a second burner phone was found secreted in a hidden compartment of his shoe. It was full of correspondence with the Feds. “What’s this we got here?” “I ain’t never seen that before, I’m telling ya I borrowed these shoes!” “Oh yeah? Well I got some nice shoes that might fit ya a bit better. Take him away fellas, find this dirty traitorous piece of poo poo some place with a nice sea view. You catch my drift?” Idle Amalgam, Almerigo Portelli (Snitch-aligned Roleblocker) has been fitted for cement shoes Day 4! quote:You are Almerigo Portelli (Snitch-aligned Roleblocker). Once per night you may have one other player picked up and questioned by the cops, blocking them from performing any night actions. You win when Snitches control the vote. It is now Night 4.
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Votecount for Day 4 Idle Amalgam (4): Lotus Aura, merk,  Grandicap (0): Idle Amalgam, merk (0): Toalpaz, Toalpaz (0): merk, Not Voting (3): Hal Insandenza, Idle Amalgam, SandwolfWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2021 at 2 a.m. UTC -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.
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Despite their success yesterday their troubles were far from over. “Listen in guys. They got Elmo, that paranoid fucker has been keeping tabs on god knows how many of us for years so let’s hope he don’t talk yeah? Now, we got work to do, let’s find this rat before we all end up behind bars!” Merk, Elmo Primiano (Mafia-aligned Tracker) has been sent down Night 4! quote:You are Elmo Primiano (Mafia-aligned Tracker). You are extremely paranoid and like to keep tabs on all of your associates. Once per night you may follow one player, informing you of anyone they visit. You win when all threats to Mafia have been eliminated. It is now Day 5.
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Votecount for Day 5 Not Voting (5): Grandicap, Hal Insandenza, Lotus Aura, Sandwolf, Toalpaz With 5 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 14th, 2021 at 8:30 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 2 days, 13 hours.
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Seems like it’s probably Toal then, although Grandi is the only one who looks mostly cleared Last scum has to be redirector or bus driver though right? I can’t see how merk saw somber visit him otherwise on N1
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I think between IA's focus on Grandi to such an extent that he has to be cleared at this point, yeah. Either merk followed IA blocking Grandi or he got redirected to Somber copping Grandi as Town. Either way, someone went to Grandi then in a way that fundamentally clears him.
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Yesterday, I was very inclined to go with Toal as second-most scummy looking. With how they were focused so much on merk, and vice versa, I think merk getting NK'd here is the one kill that dissuades me from considering Toal right now.
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