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Timeless Appeal posted:Is the connection that the Parademon sketch looks like Batman in the Whedon cut? I would say that Whedon cut is trying to look less like batman than Snyder cut
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Gives credibility to my theory that the original one was a Snyder drawing as Whedon seemed to want to remove every bit of him from the movie. The original one looks like Snyder's storyboard illustrations, so that checks out: 
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I love thar face on Darkseid. If Snyderverse has no choice vut to continue as a comic, I vote that Snyder draws it like his storyboards.
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Apr 11, 2021 22:22
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Roth posted:I love thar face on Darkseid. : (
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Apr 11, 2021 22:28
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More like Darksad 
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hiddenriverninja posted:I mean, it still looks like a Batman-like figure in the Snyder Cut, but it is definitely more "BATMAN" in the whedon cut Blood Boils posted:I would say that Whedon cut is trying to look less like batman than Snyder cut I wasn't sure if the characters in the Whedon version make that connection.
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Roth posted:I love thar face on Darkseid. :I
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Away all Goats posted:More like Darksad 
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Rabelais D posted:It‘s really interesting yeah. The sheer number of idiots who came out to categorically say that Snyder's cut didn't exist still amazes me. It's a pity that we were robbed of satisfying schadenfreude because most of these people still insist it didn't exist because they had to spend money on digital effects (and filming an extra scene), as if they don't understand what a "cut" is. Release the true Snyder Cut
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Blood Boils posted:I would say that Whedon cut is trying to look less like batman than Snyder cut Yeah it's very obviously Batman in the Synder cut, pointy ears and all. In josstice it's a... parademon,
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Not going to lie, I have a morbid curiosity to see the Whedon cut without WB's interference, such as that Batman rooftop sequence that they made him cut jokes out of.
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Surprised more people aren't talking about the revelation that Martian Manhunter is Superman's mom.
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The important question is whether or not Pa knew
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They were in love. e: When Jonathan held up his hand, he was telling both Clark AND J'onn not to reveal themselves. Phenotype fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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josh04 posted:As Hundu pointed out above, Suicide Squad is very much the missing link there.      "I was studying your girlfriend. She takes an average person - a yoga mom, an elderly retiree and turns 'em into a soldier that can take a headshot and still fight? It's an instant army."
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roffels posted:Not going to lie, I have a morbid curiosity to see the Whedon cut without WB's interference, such as that Batman rooftop sequence that they made him cut jokes out of. "Wh-who ARE YOU?!" Batman clocks his head. "Not from around here, are you?" ... "I knew I should have stayed in COAST CITY" 
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:"I was studying your girlfriend. She takes an average person - a yoga mom, an elderly retiree and turns 'em into a soldier that can take a headshot and still fight? It's an instant army." That line specifically makes me think of Online QAnon warriors, lol.
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porfiria posted:That line specifically makes me think of Online QAnon warriors, lol. In part that's what makes the Fourth World stuff still resonant to me at least, Darkseid's soldiers are not quite slaves or janissaries or what have you, nor have they been injected with a magical solution to rob them of their free will. They're just humans that have been indoctrinated into an ideology that is perfectly, completely irrational.
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So when the mumboxes clicked together, before flash rewound time, everyone got obliterated? Like steppenwolf too obviously. Whatever he was expendable. So... 5000 years ago or whatever when the mumboxes were just about to click together but zeus electrocuted them everyone was about to get obliterated as well? including darkseid? That... er doesn't seem like he planned it very well. Also the mumboxes survived that time to be spread out and hidden... so they survived this time too no? I admit I missed that bit, what happened to them.
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I think the implication is the motherboxes reconstitute you into an Apokolips,version of you afterwards--so for Steppenwolf he's not gonna care because he'll just be Steppenwolf again.
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The motherboxes are smart, they'd aim around Darkseid. They would not aim around Steppenwolf, he's just a minion. If the Justice League hadn't come along, he would have just teleported away when the time came
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Barry Allen: Wait. Your father saved your life with one of these things? A-Aren't they psycho murder machines? Victor Stone: They're Change Machines. The Boxes don't think in terms of healing or killing, alive or dead. They rearrange matter at the will of their masters. Regenerate. Reinstate.
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We dont see Steppenwolf get obliterated or rebuilt do we?
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AccountSupervisor posted:We dont see Steppenwolf get obliterated or rebuilt do we?
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It was so insane to see Superman getting blown into tiny fragments lol
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porfiria posted:That line specifically makes me think of Online QAnon warriors, lol. Show some respect, they're called Digital Soldiers.
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porfiria posted:Surprised more people aren't talking about the revelation that Martian Manhunter is Superman's mom. wyoming posted:Barry Allen: Wait. Your father saved your life with one of these things? A-Aren't they psycho murder machines?
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Incidentally, Joss apparently hated the term "mother box", which is why the Change Machine lingo is so prevalent in the 2017 version. Too comic booky for the guy who directed Avengers, I guess.
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Robot Style posted:Incidentally, Joss apparently hated the term "mother box", which is why the Change Machine lingo is so prevalent in the 2017 version. Too comic booky for the guy who directed Avengers, I guess. Joss having mother issues is the least surprising tidbit in all this
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bushisms.txt posted:I'm surprised Joss doesn't have a YouTube channel Dude is much too thin-skinned, he would quit in a huff after reading five comments.
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Robot Style posted:Incidentally, Joss apparently hated the term "mother box", which is why the Change Machine lingo is so prevalent in the 2017 version. Too comic booky for the guy who directed Avengers, I guess. It's almost like Joss, still angry that people didn't like Age of Ultron, reshot Justice League with the mantra: "Oh, I'll show them what a bad movie looks like!" If only he and the WB exec shitheads could be reconstituted by mother boxes into something useful, like ditch diggers or bathroom attendants.
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roffels posted:Not going to lie, I have a morbid curiosity to see the Whedon cut without WB's interference, such as that Batman rooftop sequence that they made him cut jokes out of. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah, the basic idea as I understood it was that the "explosion" was just the front of a wave of change, with the boxes looking at every atom and deciding whether it needed to be rearranged. Thinking of it as an explosion is far too pedestrian. "A box has the power to reinstate anterior particle relationships." The boxes are changing things, but their primary purpose is to restore. Recall the reactionary terrorists whose goal is to "turn back the clock in Europe a thousand years." In a certain sense, they're time machines. But the main point is that, instead of creating something new, they're just duplicating Darkside's schtick forever. (Whereas Victor's dad obviously tried doing something new and different.) There are consequently a lot of interesting little quirks with the boxes - like that they can only restore something if they have enough knowledge of it. That's why bringing Superman back is risky, and probably why they need the "Superman Ship" as an interface.
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Timeless Appeal posted:EDIT: Not necessarily about the cops, but TDKR also has a pretty clear statement that true reform and change can only occur when people are willing to put privilege on the line. Bruce is only actually able to save Gotham when he is willing to die for Gotham. Sorry for the late reply! And also sorry to everyone else for the non-Snyder Cut chat. I disagree that TDKR makes clear that a key to real change is the concession of privilege. Between the second and third film, Bruce almost went broke funding his free energy project, and he has always been willing to die for Gotham even before he became Batman, as shown when he stood up to the mob boss face to face in the first film. A central narrative driver of the third film is that his rebirth and titular Rise can only occur when he relearns the fear of death. If anything, Batman’s symbolic "No auto-pilot" death at the end of the film is the ultimate culmination of his vigilante fantasy - it's that he pointedly chooses life after Batman that shows us that our boy is going to be okay. Timeless Appeal posted:I agree that it's open ended, but there are some themes of both voluntary servitude and rejection of deception. The implication that Robin is just going to use his first name has always seemed significant. It offers values without offering solutions. What makes those themes not sufficiently critical is that they’re already ones of our actual police. Police departments do not utilize conscription, nor do they promote how deceptive they are. So the argument essentially boils down to ‘bad individuals’ and the solution doesn’t extend much farther than an abstract notion of police reformation, which is already consensual with mainstream thought (Polls show ~95% of U.S. citizens are for at least some police reform). Retraining, diversity initiatives, community policing, body cameras – all failures, but as a society, we can’t do anything but repeatedly return to this well. When leftists advocate for ‘Defunding the police’, Obama immediately strolls out of his castle to lecture about how they’re hurting Progress, and that they should grow up and transcend ideology. When Bane reveals Batman & Gordon’s conspiracy to illegally detain prisoners to the world, Robin rejects their tactics, and effectively promises to be a better Batman. But what does that mean in the context of our police state which has a monopoly on violence? And what privileges does the police state, or subjects of it, hold onto that is preventing real social change? It's left unclear in a post-Batman Gotham what the state of class relations are presently or will be going forward. My estimation is that the underclass will be forced to swallow even more extreme austerity policies as retribution by the ruling class for siding with Bane's uprising against their betters. KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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So wait, Superman is seduced by Darkside due to the death of his pregnant lover
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2house2fly posted:So wait, Superman is seduced by Darkside due to the death of his pregnant lover  That's why I posted this pic.
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2house2fly posted:So wait, Superman is seduced by Darkside due to the death of his pregnant lover I remember hearing rumors that Hayden Christensen was in the running for Superman Returns, but the studio said no because "Darth Vader can't be Superman".
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Robot Style posted:I remember hearing rumors that Hayden Christensen was in the running for Superman Returns, but the studio said no because "Darth Vader can't be Superman". To be fair, Brandon Routh was insanely correct casting for "Christopher Reeve Superman but in 2006." Kulkasha posted:No American likes being reminded that Afghanistan exists. This is from pages back, but they really don't mind it if the reminder is that America is dope and awesome and doing objective good for the world. See: the Gulmira scene from Iron Man, a shockingly effective bit of propaganda, and the polar opposite of what BvS was trying to say.
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