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Fallom posted:We sold our house in September and had a little COVID safety station with masks, sanitizer, and cleanser that everyone ignored. Oh, and one set of viewers and their realtor left the loving fireplace on when they left. A friend of mine sold her house around the same time. She was checking their baby monitor camera and saw a couple come into the house, take their masks off, and then go lay on her bed for a while. Another family hung around her baby's crib and one guy sneezed into his hand and then touched the crib. She talked to the real estate agent, who was in the room when both these things happened and did nothing. He saw nothing wrong and said she was "overreacting".
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Jesus Christ those stories. Thankfully the realtor was super strict and no one seemed like an rear end in a top hat, people didn't even open closets more than we did for them already. Almost everyone even just avoided going into the room my wife was working in as well, and no one had a mask under the nose which was surprising. Illinois has had/does have super strict guidelines for realtors ongoing still though. That and potential buyers basically have to suck up every way they can to try and get offers accepted with the current market helps I guess.
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all I'm hearing is become a millionaire/billionaire and go on ahead and burn this shithole to the ground (where my good dog died) before I leave it.
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I'm honored that my dumb "the Pfizer shot gives you boner right, so where's mine?" joke earned itself a thread title change. It's really crazy to me to think of the two Americas that exist simultaneously right now. Me, my friends, and my mom's side of the family have all been in a rush to get our shots as soon as we can; and we all take quarantine/lockdown seriously. My dad and his girlfriend? gently caress it let's travel to Arizona and Florida a bunch and also there's no way we're getting that vaccine because, "it rewrites your DNA!" I hope they make it mandatory for travel, even domestically, because I don't know how else we're going to get people like my dad vaccinated.
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frogge posted:I'm honored that my dumb "the Pfizer shot gives you boner right, so where's mine?" joke earned itself a thread title change. blowdarts
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Apr 12, 2021 18:24
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also Canada only instituted mandatory hotel quarantine for travelers a few weeks ago ...... but only at airports and not if they drive in, and the quarantine only lasts 3 days, and if people don't feel like doing it they just let them walk out and send them a fine in the mail. TBF with the number of cases seen in Canada, having strict border quarantine would basically not accomplish anything. It works well if there is not already widespread domestic contagion. Strict border quarantine is also probably what a pre-Schengen europe would have done pretty early on in 2020. But no, that'd be illegal... Can't limit the free flow of labor across borders!
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Apr 12, 2021 18:36
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:blowdarts Surely the humane option is crop-dusting entire towns with it.
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:TBF with the number of cases seen in Canada, having strict border quarantine would basically not accomplish anything. It works well if there is not already widespread domestic contagion.
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https://twitter.com/monkeyspawgames/status/1381475178866216960 Another protest is scheduled for tonight. I have a really bad feeling about this... I'm not sure who exactly did the call out but the fact RebelNews was there from the start smells bad. The people that were there, however, seemed 90% local youth that seemed more excited than politicized, to be polite. Too bad the Montreal police apparently forgot about the kettling/mass arrest tactics they'd use on us so loving often during any leftist or student protest. Anytime it's a real riot, like Stanley Cup wins, suddenly they can't do poo poo. A 17 year old college student with a bandana over their face however is usually fair game for chemical weapons and 37mm rubber bullets shot from an ARWEN, of course. As soon as the spring weather started appearing it's like a dam broke and people just flooded the sidewalks and businesses. It was packed everywhere downtown the past few times it was remotely sunny. Every interview I hear with protesters from last night they're asking questions that have been continuously answered for over a year now. Just an endless stream of covidiots asking why we have to put up with the measures when they're the perfect example why we need them. People gathering more and more all over the place, maskless with no distance, as we're starting a 3rd wave with variants promising hell. 2 loving birthday parties in the past WEEK in the backyard of one of my neighbors. My wife's been wanting to move to Gaspésie for years, I thought I needed the big city for a few more years still, until covid... holy poo poo I cannot wait to move out in the sticks. Getting pissed off about people having birthday parties is NOT healthy in the slightest. e: About the "mandatory" quarantine when coming into Canada... there's a story in the news cycle right now about certain taxi companies offering people a ride through the border by car, with specific marketing + advice for how to avoid the measures.  U.S. taxi services see business boost helping Canadians avoid hotel quarantine https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canadian-snowbirds-hotel-quarantine-land-border-travel-1.5980913 quote:Airport transport service, Buffalo Limousine, lost about 70 per cent of its business during COVID-19 pandemic. But the company said its luck changed recently, thanks to Canadian snowbirds returning from U.S. sunbelt states who want to avoid Canada's hotel quarantine requirement. Literally 
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Apr 12, 2021 19:16
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Bronze Fonz posted:The people that were there, however, seemed 90% local youth that seemed more excited than politicized, to be polite. Too bad the Montreal police apparently forgot about the kettling/mass arrest tactics they'd use on us so loving often during any leftist or student protest. Anytime it's a real riot, like Stanley Cup wins, OK, let me stop you here...
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Apr 12, 2021 19:40
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EL BROMANCE posted:OK, let me stop you here... Hey, it could happen again! Actually we've had riots the last time the Habs beat Boston in Round 1 of the playoffs... your point still stands, gently caress!
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Apr 12, 2021 19:43
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frogge posted:Surely the humane option is crop-dusting entire towns with it. Chemtrails!!!! 
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:Chemtrails!!!! Could get people to wear masks at least.
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Zil posted:Could get people to wear masks at least. The people that believe in chemtrails think they've been going on for years. They think aluminum hats help not masks 
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Apr 12, 2021 20:24
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A Fancy Hat posted:A friend of mine sold her house around the same time. She was checking their baby monitor camera and saw a couple come into the house, take their masks off, and then go lay on her bed for a while. Another family hung around her baby's crib and one guy sneezed into his hand and then touched the crib. The moment I knew SARS-CoV-2 was going to gently caress us was in February or maybe early March, watching a guy delivering bottles of soda to a store and licking his first two fingers before every bottle he placed, apparently so that he could turn the bottles properly??? People are awful and cannot be trusted.
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:Chemtrails!!!! Ah, hell you're right. Back to the blow darts.
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Apr 12, 2021 20:37
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Got my second shot of Modurna. Sweated for a couple of hours, but now I'm feeling better. I heard that Modurna is going to release a single "booster" shot that'll help protect you from the variants. Is that true?
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:blowdarts If your dad is traveling to places like Arizona and Florida don't depend on either place ever requiring proof of vaccinations for people entering. AZ is run by mega chuds and Florida is run by the US version of Bolsonaro.
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spacetoaster posted:Got my second shot of Modurna.
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Fallom posted:We sold our house in September and had a little COVID safety station with masks, sanitizer, and cleanser that everyone ignored. Oh, and one set of viewers and their realtor left the loving fireplace on when they left. I think the CDC said that the sanitizer/cleanser stuff is just theater now and that COVID basically only spreads in the air. So keep the dang masks on but don't worry about cleaning all the surfaces. Personally I wouldn't wear some mask given to me by a stranger but I always have my own.
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My (soon to be former, thank god) boss casually mentioned today while everyone was talking about their vaccines and side effects that he's not sure if he's getting a vaccine. He says he got a flu shot once and still got the flu that year so what's the point if it doesn't work anyway???? Also he already had Covid (he got sick a year ago, has no idea if it was Covid but likes to claim he god covid 'before it was cool') so that means he doesn't need one anyway.
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Mu Zeta posted:I think the CDC said that the sanitizer/cleanser stuff is just theater now and that COVID basically only spreads in the air. So keep the dang masks on but don't worry about cleaning all the surfaces. Personally I wouldn't wear some mask given to me by a stranger but I always have my own. Even though it's theater, I was enjoying the extra cleanliness in public spaces. I'm now hyper aware of how nasty literally everything I touch is.
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Yeah I'm basically permanently programmed to sanitize my hands after being in public at this point. Which probably isn't a bad thing?
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Bronze Fonz posted:canada This stuff is really worrying. Canada is known in the US to be pretty chill and seeing so many young people rise up against their own health is just...... mind boggling. Seeing the riot police is giving me loving PTSD from being here in Kenosha from people getting murdered here less than a mile from me and the national guard and police started stomping poo poo lol. I hope you guys remain safe and it dies out quick. This escalation isn't promising.
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Mu Zeta posted:I think the CDC said that the sanitizer/cleanser stuff is just theater now and that COVID basically only spreads in the air. In the US, we have almost no contact tracing. If you get it, nobody cares whether you got it from a checkout person whose mask wasn't tight or from a box of cereal that someone touched before you. Nobody is even trying to figure that out. In Australia and China, case numbers are low enough that they actually are asking those questions. And sometimes the answer is that you did get it from surface transmission. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-jumped-between-people-via-elevator-surfaces-study-2020-7 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/427446/rubbish-bin-the-likely-source-of-covid-infection Obviously the biggest thing you can do is wear a good mask, but wiping down surfaces isn't a bad idea either.
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Lacrosse posted:Even though it's theater, I was enjoying the extra cleanliness in public spaces. I'm now hyper aware of how nasty literally everything I touch is. Oh yeah I was like this even in the before times and refused to use any public touch screens or even other people's phones.
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So I got my first Moderna shot a week and a half ago now, and they didn't put a date to return on my card and I haven't heard anything. I'm hoping I'll get an e-mail or text around the 28 day mark?
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Pennywise the Frown posted:This stuff is really worrying. Canada is known in the US to be pretty chill and seeing so many young people rise up against their own health is just...... mind boggling. The internet breaks everyone’s brains, including (maybe especially) nice people
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Anne Whateley posted:Fwiw, while you're right this is suggested by the CDC, it's not actually true. China's data on surface transmission is pretty suspect because they're trying to validate their absurd claim that the virus was brought to china on frozen food packaging or some bullshit. NZ is more interesting, but it still seems likelier that they have quarantine breaks they're not accounting for (it's a hotel, not a supermax prison).
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There was also a very similar elevator case in NZ. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122512325/coronavirus-mystery-rydges-case-possibly-linked-to-use-of-hotel-elevator It's possible there was some kind of mastermind heist/breakout scenario that nobody discovered, but in general, they've caught other security breaches, they have video, and we know fomite transmission is possible -- I think Occam's razor suggests that that's what happened. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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I won’t forgive NZ for trying to blame innocent lobsters and trash can lids
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Anne Whateley posted:There was also a very similar elevator case in NZ. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122512325/coronavirus-mystery-rydges-case-possibly-linked-to-use-of-hotel-elevator this is a pretty significant claim you are backing up with no evidence whatsoever
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My claim is that fomite transmission is possible. That is not a controversial claim, it's agreed upon by pretty much all sources afaik.quote:It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low. I backed it up with 3 examples of fomite transmission, all studied in depth by major governmental agencies including the CDC. For example, here's the CDC report of the China elevator situation. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/9/20-1798_article Imo "the whole study is totally invented to try to shift the blame" and "fomite transmission doesn't exist" are much bigger and more controversial claims.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:This stuff is really worrying. Canada is known in the US to be pretty chill and seeing so many young people rise up against their own health is just...... mind boggling.
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The rubbish bin lid is thought to be not that likely as the source of that transmission anymore. They think it's more likely it was airborne spread https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...isolation-hotel
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that. My take is still "if you watch someone sneeze on your baby's crib, go ahead and wipe that down" -- even "if you had people wandering around your house and you don't know what they did, it's a good idea to wipe things down" is really not controversial at all afaik.
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Anne Whateley posted:My claim is that fomite transmission is possible. That is not a controversial claim, it's agreed upon by pretty much all sources afaik. you are basically contradicting your own source but sure. Of course it is possible of course wash your drat hands but its very unlikely that new zealand poo poo was the result of fomites, its irresponsible to suggest as much.
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Heck I wish it was fomites I mean truly airborne is so much worse
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Spinz posted:Heck I wish it was fomites I mean truly airborne is so much worse Yeah gently caress right super cool the one really controllable thing doesn’t really seem to matter
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