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euphronius posted:In many states If the parties agree they can do the divorce themselves for filing fees Yeah, that's not the kind of "uncontested" I was talking about. Think more like $3,500 each for lawyers to hash things out with nobody trying to hide assets or needing to go to court.
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I’m 6 years or so from doing divorces but I’d say that kind of divorce would be closer to 2000 Depends on how much property there is to fuss about
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Apr 9, 2021 17:24
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euphronius posted:I’m 6 years or so from doing divorces but I’d say that kind of divorce would be closer to 2000 I'm quoting the check for a retainer I just wrote to a local divorce attorney to get my sister the gently caress out of a relationship with an emotionally and financially abusive fuckwad, so I'm sure this is all local. He says if he doesn't have to go to court this should do it. I'll gladly pay more to have this over with.
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Apr 9, 2021 17:26
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Well now you are complicating the case with additional facts so 3500 sounds more right Hopefully it will end up being less
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Apr 9, 2021 17:27
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yeah 'uncontested' scenarios are generally "we have nothing to split up, we don't want anything from each other, we'd just like to be out of this" anything that involves property division, alimony, etc, could be amicable but will always be more expensive
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Legal Questions: The answer to "should I delete my post" is YES Do the needful mods. Also any time someone tells me they have a "uncontested"/"simple" divorce it is a giant warning bell. Motronic posted:I'm quoting the check for a retainer I just wrote to a local divorce attorney to get my sister the gently caress out of a relationship with an emotionally and financially abusive fuckwad, so I'm sure this is all local. He says if he doesn't have to go to court this should do it. I'll gladly pay more to have this over with. I will be amazed if no court appearances are involved given that.
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Apr 9, 2021 19:27
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Yeah I rethought it and now would say I’d demand 5,000 up front.
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Apr 9, 2021 19:28
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My spouse and their ex had the rare legit amicable "let's just take our respective cars and 401(k)s, split the checking account, and pay the admin fee" divorce. No kids, no house, no business, no particularly hard feelings, and they both had self-sufficient incomes; so for them it was just another government office transaction. They brought their marriage license to the county clerk and said "can we return this here?", got the paperwork, paid a few hundred dollars apiece, had some mandatory waiting period, and they were split.
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Eminent Domain posted:Do the needful mods. Me too. But I'm on the "expedite it and I'll pay" path here, which I just made sure my sister knew.
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Shine posted:My spouse and their ex had the rare legit amicable "let's just take our respective cars and 401(k)s, split the checking account, and pay the admin fee" divorce. No kids, no house, no business, no particularly hard feelings, and they both had self-sufficient incomes; so for them it was just another government office transaction. They brought their marriage license to the county clerk and said "can we return this here?", got the paperwork, paid a few hundred dollars apiece, had some mandatory waiting period, and they were split. Look, the creative writing thread is thataway
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Eminent Domain posted:Do the needful mods. There was absolutely a court appearance involved in mine, because Michigan requires that, which was super weird to me. But yeah, my ex and I didnt have kids or property, we'd already been separated for a while, we were on decent terms, and I'm sure that absolutely makes things a lot more simple.
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As a purely hypothetical, Let us imagine a goon is trying to deal with his mother's estate in N. Carolina, county of Wake. He is her only child, she died intestate, and he is therefore her sole heir. In applying for letters of administration, he is expected to provide an initial inventory of the assets of the estate. The estate's assets are 3 bank accounts across 2 banks, a car, and personal property. The problem is that this hypothetical goon has no drat how much money is in the account at the second bank. His mother opened this account to specifically hide the amount from herself so she wouldn't want to spend it. This goon specifically went to that bank, and was told he couldn't get that information without letters of testamentary. This was also where he found out about the existence of letters of testamentary. So, when filling out the paperwork, what duties to find out more information before applying for letters would this goon have? What answer should this hypothetical goon give to the value of that asset? How annoyed should he be that the vaguest hints he has as to its value makes him probably unable to use NC's simplified estate settlement by collection because it exceeds the maximum value of that procedure? How much should such a goon expect to pay an attorney to make this annoyance go away? Is $295 for the first hour a lot? PURELY HYPOTHETICAL ahem.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:05
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Booklegger posted:As a purely hypothetical, Less than I would charge.
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We just had this discussion in one of the many finance-ish threads in BFC, and the general consensus is that hiring an attorney is worth the money. You're about to deal with a mountain of paperwork, and it's going to be an immense time suck. An attorney is going to know exactly what needs to be done, when it needs to be done by, and how. Here's a handy reference if you haven't come across it already: https://www.nccourts.gov/assets/documents/forms/e850-en.pdf?wAfy5o3sqw7oCN0qFSPp5N1aWnKA7nNK note: I am not a lawyer, just some idiot on the internet. edit: you can pay attorneys fees out of the estate, but the court has to approve them, and you'd be responsible for the amount above and beyond what the court approves. DaveSauce fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Hypothetical goon should hire/consult a hypothetical attorney to avoid future hypothetical headaches. Hourly rate depends on a bunch of factors, so it goes. We have no real way of telling if that's too much or too little, it's gonna depend on your area and the experience and migratory bird patterns and so on and so forth. Eminent Domain fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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you, hypothetically, might be able to pay an estate attorney a flat % of the estate (with a maximum set by law) this might be much much more money than just paying someone an hourly
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Do jurors ever fall asleep during a trial? What happens if they do?
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SkunkDuster posted:Do jurors ever fall asleep during a trial? What happens if they do? I've seen judges fall asleep. I heard about one going to mistrial over it down south a few years ago.
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SkunkDuster posted:Do jurors ever fall asleep during a trial? What happens if they do? Depends how egregious but contempt of court isn't unheard of.
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SkunkDuster posted:Do jurors ever fall asleep during a trial? What happens if they do? Ideally you start your trial with <number of jurors needed to deliberate> plus some alternates, so that if a juror gets abducted by aliens in the middle of trial, you'll still have enough to finish the case. If somebody notices something's wrong, the judge might excuse the jury and call in that juror to ask questions ("I noticed you looked like you were nodding off. Are you feeling okay?" etc.). If the juror's falling asleep because they're sick or taking extra time to cover work/family stuff on top of trial time, usually the judge releases them because there are alternates available, and you keep going.
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Nice piece of fish posted:I've seen judges fall asleep. By down south do you mean Denmark? I heard there was something rotten there.
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Apr 10, 2021 23:10
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The one time I served on a jury the judge fell asleep for a few minutes. It wasn't a very exciting case, to be honest.
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Apr 10, 2021 23:55
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Due process isn’t always fun !!
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therobit posted:By down south do you mean Denmark? I live like in the arctic, my man. Almost everything is south of me.
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I had a judge fall asleep during trial in my third or fourth year. I just leaned over and whispered to the very experienced opposing counsel. We popped up and asked for a break. Lawyers pop up for breaks all the time and as long as the judge isn't a prick you'll get one (don't eat taco bell during trial weeks; can't get the shits). It is extremely poor form for a lawyer of any wherewithal to oppose a break like that, and judges usually pick up on what's going on. A judge falling asleep would be grateful for the opportunity to grab a walk and a coffee. I once saw a pregnant lawyer puke in the middle of trial when the judge wouldn't give her a break. That judge was a prick.
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BigHead posted:I once saw a pregnant lawyer puke in the middle of trial when the judge wouldn't give her a break. That judge was a prick. Holy poo poo - Details?
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On the flip side, I've had a judge who turned a 3 week jury trial into 6 loving weeks. Didn't start until 10:00am, 90 minute lunches, turned everyone out by 4:30 at the latest, sometimes closer to 4:00 and at 3:00 on fridays. Constant breaks, skipped days, etc. It was insufferable.
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Hypothetical for Illinois: I sue someone and win a monetary award, but they can't pay the whole thing at once so they set up a payment plan. When they make those payments, who do they pay? And when I receive a payment, who is it from? Like, would I get a direct deposit from the Illinois court system?
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Badger of Basra posted:Hypothetical for Illinois: I sue someone and win a monetary award, but they can't pay the whole thing at once so they set up a payment plan. When they make those payments, who do they pay? And when I receive a payment, who is it from? Like, would I get a direct deposit from the Illinois court system? I'm not sure, but I think you're supposed to call J.G. Wentworth.
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Captain von Trapp posted:I'm not sure, but I think you're supposed to call J.G. Wentworth.
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Badger of Basra posted:Hypothetical for Illinois: I sue someone and win a monetary award, but they can't pay the whole thing at once so they set up a payment plan. When they make those payments, who do they pay? And when I receive a payment, who is it from? Like, would I get a direct deposit from the Illinois court system? Usually if you get a judgment against someone, they pay you directly until the judgment is satisfied. If they don't pay the judgment, you go back to the court to enforce it. They don't normally pay the court.
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Could I sell that debt to a collector?
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Harold Fjord posted:Could I sell that debt to a collector? Yes. If you can find one that wants to buy it.
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blarzgh posted:On the flip side, I've had a judge who turned a 3 week jury trial into 6 loving weeks. What would happen to a juror if they snapped at the judge for financially ruining them so they could work... What 5.5 hours a day assuming 10-4:30 with a 90 minute lunch.
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Debt collector firms are usually buying in bulk afaict.
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euphronius posted:Debt collector firms are usually buying in bulk afaict. Yeah, typically if you're going to be selling judgments its because you've got a pipeline to a lot of judgments (you're a credit card company that for some strange reason sues people before sending them to collections, you're an institutional landlord with thousands of units that does the same, etc.). So you'll negotiate a bulk rate with a debt collector and bundle things monthly.
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honda whisperer posted:What would happen to a juror if they snapped at the judge for financially ruining them so they could work... What 5.5 hours a day assuming 10-4:30 with a 90 minute lunch. If a juror yelled at the judge, they may be held in contempt of court, kicked off the jury. For long trials there's typically two alternate jurors who have to sit through the whole thing as well, and one of them would take their place.
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 TREE LAWIf one were to hire a service to remove a very large, dead tree in their yard and the service blows it and it smashes into a neighbor's yard, who is liable for the damage? If the service, are they normally licensed and bonded? If the consumer, would that normally be covered by homeowner's insurance? Virginia
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Nonexistence posted:
Typically tree services carry insurance for exactly that kind of property damage issue. (If you’re hiring one you probably want to make sure they have insurance.)
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Please do not hire a tree service without verifying insurance.
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