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You’re all missing the big picture... Bobby Bonilla Day is not even the worst financial investment the NY Mets have ever made by a long shot.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:03
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PookBear posted:Please stop being a dumbass and repeating this. If the global economy collapses like it did during the great depression and it falls in half, then someone worth 40 billion is now worth 20 billion. money is meaningless, 20 billion worth of wealth in a collapsed economy will buy you more than 40 billion today 20 billion of cash will buy you dirt because its worthless.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:15
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https://twitter.com/evlieb/status/1382317859796226054?s=21
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Apr 14, 2021 15:25
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"Is that you Ronald Reagan? Is this me?"
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Apr 14, 2021 15:28
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 Is anyone really surprised that it's racism? It's always racism.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:29
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PookBear posted:Please stop being a dumbass and repeating this. If the global economy collapses like it did during the great depression and it falls in half, then someone worth 40 billion is now worth 20 billion. External shocks can upend wealth distribution. From what I recall from Capital in the 21st Century, the world wars were the most redistributive events in western Europe over the last few hundred years. When there are actual existential threats to society, preserving capital structures suddenly falls down the priority list. For a few decades after the second world war, the UK and France were arguably socialist countries (based on public ownership of capital) and saw broad increases in standards of living as a result. But despite that the general trend over the last few decades is towards privatization and a wider wealth disparity again.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:33
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Whoa Madoff died in prison. Thought for sure he’d figure out a way to get out He scammed rich people. He was never getting out.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:39
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The crew of the Ever Given is in a lovely spot but their situation is in no way comparable to the guy on an an abandoned general cargo. The ship that guy is on is worth maybe five mills and likely has liabilities far in excess of that attached. The Ever Given is worth 150 mill empty and dry, and her only major lien is likely the Egyptian government’s. (I mean sure, mortgage and bunkers, but the owner isn’t a single ship company and Evergreen is... Evergreen) It’s like comparing an Afghan Hilux to a US Army MRAP, wholly different ballgame and owners. As for auctioning the ship and cargo, they’re a government, they can do whatever they want. (Long answer, they can arrest the ship for non payment if the owners don’t post security, then auction it off; ironically this would gently caress the salvors over big time unless they went through the hoops to contract the owners in personam) Maritime law is greeeeeat.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:44
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M_Gargantua posted:money is meaningless, 20 billion worth of wealth in a collapsed economy will buy you more than 40 billion today the rich get richer when the economy crashes, because they're snapping stuff up cheap the rich get richer when the economy booms, because all the stuff they own is making tons of money the poor are poor because of various decisions and environmental factors it's all very simple voodoo, you see
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Apr 14, 2021 15:45
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Flying_Crab posted:
Things really shifted once people realized that it was mostly poor people and/or non-whites dying the most.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:50
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M_Gargantua posted:money is meaningless, 20 billion worth of wealth in a collapsed economy will buy you more than 40 billion today edit: I misread this post originally so my reply below doesn't make sense. I thought by wealth he meant money, when instead wealth means capital That isn't how this works at all, or did I miss the part where all the wealth from the east coast robber barrons completely disappeared after 1929. Oh wait no they're all still around. They don't have 20 billion in cash, they have 20 billion in capital. No matter what you use to measure the value by, capital will always have value. PookBear fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 15:51
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:External shocks can upend wealth distribution. From what I recall from Capital in the 21st Century, the world wars were the most redistributive events in western Europe over the last few hundred years. When there are actual existential threats to society, preserving capital structures suddenly falls down the priority list. For a few decades after the second world war, the UK and France were arguably socialist countries (based on public ownership of capital) and saw broad increases in standards of living as a result. But despite that the general trend over the last few decades is towards privatization and a wider wealth disparity again. The capital structures fell down because the capital was quite literally physically destroyed. That is completely different from an economic crash. Also only some things were publicly owned such as infrastructure and I think coal mines. The majority of the capital was still private. Additionally, there was no real democratization of capital. It wasn't really publicly owned so much as run as a non profit for the benefit of the public, while still under the control of the entrenched power system in the UK that hasn't really changed. PookBear fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 15:52
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Crab Dad posted:it would be a wild waste of funds to actually fire them into the sun. It's cheaper to yeet them out of the solar system then to fire them into the sun. We're already orbiting at a bit more than half of the escape velocity of the sun, so it would take more delta v to cancel that movement than to just keep going the way we already are and join Voyager.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:57
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Let's see how the local housing market is doing right now Valuations are climbing at $30,000+ a month and the median price is only pushing 10 times the median household income. Looking great!
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Apr 14, 2021 16:26
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Looking like the Trump Election Fraud Hotline got exactly what they deserved. https://twitter.com/swin24/status/1382353478287245318 quote:back in November, @jonathanvswan tweeted at the time that he’d seen some of these images and decided they were “better left unpublished.”
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Apr 14, 2021 16:27
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:External shocks can upend wealth distribution. From what I recall from Capital in the 21st Century, the world wars were the most redistributive events in western Europe over the last few hundred years. When there are actual existential threats to society, preserving capital structures suddenly falls down the priority list. For a few decades after the second world war, the UK and France were arguably socialist countries (based on public ownership of capital) and saw broad increases in standards of living as a result. But despite that the general trend over the last few decades is towards privatization and a wider wealth disparity again. wars are fought to uphold capital structures, its why capital has all the war infrastructure and keeps it primed
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Apr 14, 2021 16:29
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PookBear posted:That isn't how this works at all, or did I miss the part where all the wealth from the east coast robber barrons completely disappeared after 1929. Oh wait no they're all still around. We are actually in total agreement?
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Apr 14, 2021 16:31
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facialimpediment posted:Looking like the Trump Election Fraud Hotline got exactly what they deserved. I wonder if Weedlord Bonerhitler had any evidence to submit.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:33
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On a different note thr new fast and furious trailer looks entirely rediculous and i called in like 2014 Han coming back from nowhere in a couple movies to save everyone's asses out of nowhere because the people making those have no actual plan lol
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Apr 14, 2021 16:43
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https://twitter.com/NickAtNews/status/1382313924943609860
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Apr 14, 2021 16:47
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Stravag posted:On a different note thr new fast and furious trailer looks entirely rediculous and i called in like 2014 Han coming back from nowhere in a couple movies to save everyone's asses out of nowhere because the people making those have no actual plan lol I read this as Han Solo at first and was suddenly far more interested in F&F.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:51
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Stravag posted:On a different note thr new fast and furious trailer looks entirely rediculous and i called in like 2014 Han coming back from nowhere in a couple movies to save everyone's asses out of nowhere because the people making those have no actual plan lol Are you telling me that in the series where you can jump across a divided highway bridge and arrest your fall with the windshield of oncoming traffic, there might be a lack of realism??? Is this what happens in Vin Diesel's D&D car campaign?
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Apr 14, 2021 16:52
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Is there a F&F Tabletop rulebook yet? Missed opportunity if not.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:54
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I have the feeling, that if the community is pissed off enough that you've erected a four foot cement barrier and some chain link around your private residence. Your house is doomed and no amount of barriers are going to prevent someone hucking a few fire bombs on to your roof.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:54
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Imagining fast and furious as a d&d campaign is making me laugh more than it should
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Apr 14, 2021 16:55
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We can adapt the Lancer framework its close enough to get started.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:56
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Gated cop communities (cop fobs) will be the future. A million little Staten Islands
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Apr 14, 2021 16:56
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Are you telling me that in the series where you can jump across a divided highway bridge and arrest your fall with the windshield of oncoming traffic, there might be a lack of realism??? Is this what happens in Vin Diesel's D&D car campaign? They strapped 3 rockets and a couple f104 looking wings to a ripsaw and had it flying im loving IN man lol
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Apr 14, 2021 16:56
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facialimpediment posted:Things really shifted once people realized that it was mostly poor people and/or non-whites dying the most. I mean I've been saying this for months now and even telling it to people in real life and they look at me like I'm a loon
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Apr 14, 2021 17:06
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All this tells me is that they are aware of how the public will react to the decision to charge or not. Which tells me what the decision is. Maybe I’m being pessimistic.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:09
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boop the snoot posted:All this tells me is that they are aware of how the public will react to the decision to charge or not. Which tells me what the decision is. They protect the murderer and do nothing for the victim. Standard police stuff.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:13
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orange juche posted:Imagining fast and furious as a d&d campaign is making me laugh more than it should It works so well and makes perfect sense.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:13
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boop the snoot posted:All this tells me is that they are aware of how the public will react to the decision to charge or not. Which tells me what the decision is. Seeing what parts of Minneapolis still look like from the George Floyd murder and the unrest that followed, I suspect that some concrete barriers and a fence won’t be a real deterrent.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:15
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Yeah, fences don't stop bottles of gas and fire from flying over.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:17
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Milo and POTUS posted:I mean I've been saying this for months now and even telling it to people in real life and they look at me like I'm a loon I don't get what was so controversial. Well off people can stay locked in their homes if they want to and wait for poo poo to pass, and even if they do get it they can afford a higher standard of care for poo poo, then look at the graph of who makes up the upper percentile of wages/wealth in America.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:20
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1382367440202391552?s=19
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Apr 14, 2021 17:24
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M_Gargantua posted:We are actually in total agreement? I'm sorry I misread what you said, edited my post.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:24
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Huh, if they put that level of effort into protecting the people that wouldn't be needed... Also, how much would it suck to be her neighbors?
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Apr 14, 2021 17:27
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boop the snoot posted:All this tells me is that they are aware of how the public will react to the decision to charge or not. Which tells me what the decision is. CommieGIR posted:They protect the murderer and do nothing for the victim. Standard police stuff. This may be a sign that perhaps kneejerk responses aren't the best idea.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:29
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Awwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeeee there it is https://twitter.com/TOLOnews/status/1382369358001926150?s=19
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Apr 14, 2021 17:32
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