Soup du Jour posted:Xykon is basically what would happen if Incubus was turned into a skeleton So would be the Auntie Maya in this analogy?
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Probably the best "All Just A Dream" ending was Bob Newhart. Regalingualius posted:So would be the Auntie Maya in this analogy?
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Apr 17, 2021 07:08
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PMush Perfect posted:I feel like we're sleeping on Jacob's Ladder here. When’s the last time he did something on the scale of slicing a city block in half vertically with one swing of a broken sword, though?
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Apr 17, 2021 07:28
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Regalingualius posted:When’s the last time he did something on the scale of slicing a city block in half vertically with one swing of a broken sword, though?
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Apr 17, 2021 07:34
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There is just something so fiendish about Redcloak's dialogue that strip and it's amazing.
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Apr 17, 2021 07:36
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Raenir Salazar posted:There is just something so fiendish about Redcloak's dialogue that strip and it's amazing.
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Apr 17, 2021 13:15
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World Famous W posted:Its because he's talking to corpses who can't hear and outsiders who he doesn't about care about their opinion. He's just a lone nut muttering to himself for himself. IIRC he's talking to the group that's returning, I think he's responding to their conversation?
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Apr 17, 2021 16:38
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I wonder whether the Snarl didn't get bored and began creating its own world, and that'd explain why we see a planet in the rifts. The Snarl has enough divine energy to kill gods, it'd only stand to reason it also has enough divine energy to create. Odin has a line about yarn spinning yarn, and at the start of the current book there's a fake-out with Belkar's cat playing with a ball of yarn that's presented at first if it's the Snarl. World of stick figures, world of yarn figures? Maybe that's how they can resolve the conundrum with the Dark One and the goblins, they can go live in the Snarl's world?
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Apr 17, 2021 17:12
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Thought it was gonna link to this. Raenir Salazar posted:IIRC he's talking to the group that's returning, I think he's responding to their conversation? As Redcloak says later, they're all dead (even the polymorphed spy); they just doesn't know it yet. In that scene, the only audience that Redcloak cares about is Redcloak. Capfalcon fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Apr 17, 2021 17:19
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Christ, that easily one of the most brutal scenes in the comic
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Apr 17, 2021 18:07
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PMush Perfect posted:Redcloak. - Was chosen as a successor by someone who died seconds later - Fights against the unjust system set up by corrupt gods - Started a war - Binds demons - Was offered a chance to give up his plans in exchange for breaking the cosmic cycle of world destruction - Lost an eye - Deep down, really hates himself
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Apr 17, 2021 20:54
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Raenir Salazar posted:IIRC he's talking to the group that's returning, I think he's responding to their conversation? Yes: corpses.
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Apr 17, 2021 21:00
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Nah, Redcloak is Allison: 
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Apr 17, 2021 21:08
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:Nah, Redcloak is Allison: - Is an emotionally-repressed mastermind, the exact opposite of a furious dumbass - Terrible at improvising, needs a Plan for everything - Hasn't even kissed one devil sebmojo posted:Yes: corpses. 
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Apr 17, 2021 22:02
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I can not argue that Redcloak should be more dumbass and kiss more devils. These things are simply true. However, PMush Perfect posted:- Terrible at improvising, needs a Plan for everything is what Tsukiko thought, and it didn't work out too well for her.
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Apr 18, 2021 00:12
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Schwarzwald posted:I can not argue that Redcloak should be more dumbass and kiss more devils. These things are simply true. Redcloak probably had those exact events planned out the day Xykon brought her on board.
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Apr 18, 2021 00:21
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A.o.D. posted:Redcloak probably had those exact events planned out the day Xykon brought her on board. I mean, doesn't take a master tactician to realize " I am higher level than her, I could easily command the undead she creates".
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Apr 18, 2021 00:25
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If you have enough contingency plans it looks like you're good at improvising. Having access to high-level cleric spells helps too.
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Apr 18, 2021 00:30
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What are redcloaks moments of improvisation? Azure city?
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Apr 18, 2021 00:50
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ultrafilter posted:If you have enough contingency plans it looks like you're good at improvising. Having access to high-level cleric spells helps too. And conversely, if you're good enough at improvising, it looks like you have a lot of contingency plans. I'm convinced that's how Xykon operates, and whenever he begrudgingly admits that he's a lot smarter than he looks, he's actually just bullshitting to wind Redcloak up.
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Apr 18, 2021 00:52
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sebmojo posted:What are redcloaks moments of improvisation? Azure city? Against the paladin ghosts and against v, he was dealing with the unexpected and had to plan on the fly. Which is a lot like improvising.
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Apr 18, 2021 02:23
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A.o.D. posted:Redcloak probably had those exact events planned out the day Xykon brought her on board. He still only had the time it took for him to climb up the stairs to come up with an airtight and plausible explanation for the circumstances of her death that would leave Xykon none the wiser... at the same time he was also making a perfect replica of the phylactery.
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Apr 18, 2021 02:32
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Regalingualius posted:He still only had the time it took for him to climb up the stairs to come up with an airtight and plausible explanation for the circumstances of her death that would leave Xykon none the wiser... at the same time he was also making a perfect replica of the phylactery. All he had to do was tell the truth. Well, most of the truth.
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Apr 18, 2021 02:38
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Okay, 'he can't improvise' withdrawn, and resubmitted as "he has a Plan and values it over everything else"
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Apr 18, 2021 02:39
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Johnny Aztec posted:I mean, doesn't take a master tactician to realize " I am higher level than her, I could easily command the undead she creates". He does say in the comic that he commanded them the second he walked into the room, though. He didn't just command them at the spur of the moment when he attacked her with them.
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Apr 18, 2021 03:00
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Taciturn Tactician posted:He does say in the comic that he commanded them the second he walked into the room, though. He didn't just command them at the spur of the moment when he attacked her with them. If she'd actually said she was looking for the TiVo remote because she didn't want to admit her plan to his face, he probably would have quietly let go of the ghouls and gone back to his business.
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Apr 18, 2021 03:05
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Taciturn Tactician posted:He does say in the comic that he commanded them the second he walked into the room, though. He didn't just command them at the spur of the moment when he attacked her with them. He probably did this every time he got anywhere near her, as a contingency.  e: fb
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Apr 18, 2021 03:07
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I think high wisdom might actually imply being good at improvisation.
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Apr 18, 2021 03:58
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No one wise gets into improve.
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Apr 18, 2021 04:18
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think high wisdom might actually imply being good at improvisation.
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Apr 18, 2021 04:24
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This is d&d, not Disco Elysium. High stats don't have downsides.
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Apr 18, 2021 04:49
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How dare you slander Electrochemistry like this Edit: JK Simmons has reminded me that this is libel, not slander
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Apr 18, 2021 05:47
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Khizan posted:This is d&d, not Disco Elysium. High stats don't have downsides.
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Apr 18, 2021 11:25
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Khizan posted:This is d&d, not Disco Elysium. High stats don't have downsides.
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Apr 18, 2021 11:38
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think high wisdom might actually imply being good at improvisation. It makes just as much sense to say a high wisdom would make you value planning ahead. Regardless, it's clear that redcloak has exceptional mental stats across the board. He's a skilled liar and leader, and no slouch at intimidating an imprisoned paladin. His force of personality dominates any room that doesn't also contain xykon. He shows incredible foresight, willpower, and situational awareness, and is not easily fooled(though sirini managed it) And he's a nerdy intellectual, loves science and reading. Is deeply knowledgeable about the world, and it's properties, devises and executes meticulously complex plans, taking lots of complexity in mind. He's got mental weaknesses, but they're in his personality, not his skills.
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Apr 18, 2021 15:54
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Redcloak obviously prefers extensive planning ahead whenever possible, but there's no way he'd have been able to survive this long with Xykon if he wasn't capable of handling the unexpected.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:00
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Yeah, Redcloak's not Nale, lol
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Apr 18, 2021 23:09
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Yeah Nale had people in his life who loved him.
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Apr 18, 2021 23:52
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Yeah Nale had people in his life who loved him. In Start of Darkness Redcloak had a brother and a neice and nephew, who loved him, all of whom he killed. So that's nice.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Yeah Nale had people in his life who loved him. 
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