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GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
If you fire a nuke it should launch and vanished from the map, announcing that it was fired and by who but not anything else. Then everyone has to decide if they think they were a target, if they should launch theirs and against who, etc.

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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

They have never had a satisfactory nuke system and I'm not sure they ever will. The only reason I'm not just saying they should remove nukes is because Nuclear Gandhi is a Civ tradition at this point.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Just finished a TSL Earth where I played as the Aztec. It was pretty nice to be able to declare Colonial War on the Spanish ngl.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
I like the MAD auto target/deployment idea

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

Crazy Ted posted:

Bring back the Suitcase Nuke spy mission from Civ II that led to every other civilization auto-declaring war on you.

This + paratroopering in to their capital and causing a civil war is probably my all-time favorite Civ move.

Pedestrian Xing
Jul 19, 2007

I hope Civ 7 brings back some of these things you guys are talking about, they sound super fun.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Civ 7 will have zombies and vampires.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

John F Bennett posted:

Civ 7 will have zombies and vampires.

Hey man, dont poo poo on the vampires, its a cool mechanic

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
They'll be a specialist citizen type and get you LOTS of votes in the World Congress.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

General Battuta posted:

They'll be a specialist citizen type and get you LOTS of votes in the World Congress.

Ah, the Peter Thiel class!

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


World Famous W posted:

I like the MAD auto target/deployment idea

It's a really spicy option and I dig it, too.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

John F Bennett posted:

Civ 7 will have zombies and vampires.
I still like that they just had to spend the time loving around with a Zombie game mode, that looks to me like a re-skinned Raging Barbarians, before bringing out the big balance patch.

And then the Zombie game mode has zombies spawn inside your cities' borders so all those new defensive walls you can put up are pretty much just decorations lol

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

The Glumslinger posted:

Hey man, dont poo poo on the vampires, its a cool mechanic

I wasn't making GBS threads on them, I enjoy the vampire mechanic.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Zombie is so disappointing because I want a raging barbarians/perma siege mode and zombies just feels hilariously anemic, especially given the random interior spawns.

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

In Civ V I had to declare war on Germany to prevent them from getting a culture victory once. They were on the opposite side of the world so I had to build a navy and sail across the ocean to attack them. As soon as I took Berlin, Bismark launched a retaliatory nuke on his former capital and took out my entire navy with it and it was loving rad.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



Once I was so far ahead I nuked all my own cities the turn before I won a diplomatic victory

pretty weird world those guys lived in

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



It was probably the right thing to do

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

They showed off the new patch. The new huge earth map seems nice but Europe is way too small.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Was kinda hoping Moksha would get some sort of buff to make him relevant at all but all he gets now is +2 faith for every district in his home city

that poo poo sucks

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

John F Bennett posted:

They showed off the new patch. The new huge earth map seems nice but Europe is way too small.

What is the best TSL earth map out there currently?

I recall that civ V had an earth map in the workshop that was actually intelligently designed; it was cropped in such a way that the oceans were smaller (like 3 ocean tiles wide or so between the UK and Canada, somewhat similar distance between Japan and Alaska) that most of Scandinavia, Canada and Siberia were cropped out, and the continents with more civs (particularly Europe and the Middle East) were reshaped to have more space.

I liked that one because the maker put some thought into "actually a map should be fun first and foremost and crossing ocean tiles for 4 turns is not exactly riveting gameplay" and there were less empty stretches without civs.

Anything similar to that in Civ VI or do all mod makers just slavishly reproduce the NYAEMP world map 1:1 ?

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

As far as I'm aware, YNAEMP is still the go to map pack for TSL Earth. The one that's called Greatest Earth is my favourite one, it's very good.

I'll be using the Firaxis one as I recently switched to the console edition of civ.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Patch notes are out

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/april-2021-update-patch-notes-discussion.669526/

Pedestrian Xing
Jul 19, 2007

Base game, expansion pack, and season pass are all discounted on the Nintendo store right now.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


How did Egypt not get any changes? That's....really surprising given their current state.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



They nerfed Russia quite a bit, which was a reasonable decision. I play Russia whenever I want to win easily, it feels like cheating.

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

https://twitter.com/boesthius_/stat...s1_c10&ref_url=

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Seems like a good patch, more changes than I expected but probably less than a lot of people would have liked. Considering how often my games seem to end up on the cultural victories path it will be interesting to see how noticeable that is.

I'm glad I got a Russia game in last week, before it lost some of its OTT power. I loaded up a random game to make sure the patch was installed, first roll, Egypt. Didn't see any changes on the patch notes, so I hit restart and got Persia. Looked through the patch notes and whaddya know... their only change is a nerf?! Madness.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

i like the russia nerf not because they are weaker hut because i will no longer end up with as many great people just sitting around doing nothing

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Civilization VI: Pet the dogs of war

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Canada is strong with the update. I've been playing on the new huge TSL Earth as Portugal and when I discovered the new world I saw that Canada wiped out America and took over all of North-America.

Also, you can finally add more civs than 8 to the standard TSL Earth, , this is my favourite feature of this update. Huge Earth gets 20 spots.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Terrace Farms having 1 housing is a really great change for Inca and what it should have been all along. Definitely makes them more desirable to spam around.

Judgy Fucker
Mar 24, 2006

John F Bennett posted:

Also, you can finally add more civs than 8 to the standard TSL Earth, , this is my favourite feature of this update. Huge Earth gets 20 spots.

I've never played on a huge-sized map before, do you (or anyone else?) play marathon speed when you do, or what?

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

TipTow posted:

I've never played on a huge-sized map before, do you (or anyone else?) play marathon speed when you do, or what?

Usually at least epic, sometimes marathon.

In my 1000+ hours, I've never actually finished a game. I usually stop at the early modern age because I get bored and start to miss the classic era.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
I always play huge maps, with at most 8 civs and max number of city states

I used to play normal speed but recently I switched to epic and Im liking it

edit: I also dont usually finish my games, though

SaturdayKnight
Mar 31, 2011

Epic speed is the correct speed, because normal often feels like my army is out of date by the time they finish marching to the enemy capitol. It also gives more time to focus on exploring and discovery, while normal mode feels like you are required to invade the first person you see, regardless of who they are or get immediately out-tech'd.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Agreed.

Still I would like an epic speed for everything with normal speed for production (except for wonders)

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Elias_Maluco posted:

Agreed.

Still I would like an epic speed for everything with normal speed for production (except for wonders)

If you're on pc there are a couple of mods that do just this. Don't know what they are called though, it's been a while since I looked at mods but it worked well.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
I once tried one that was recommended here, but it didint changed just that, it changed a lot of stuff, in ways I didint liked

Pedestrian Xing
Jul 19, 2007

There are also some mods that increase science/culture requirements for early techs which lengthens the first few ages without increasing industry costs.

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Zees perfectly timed eras is my fav. What it does is increase tech cost but it scales to era. So outdated tech is incredibly fast and ahead of time tech is slow. Granted, you will eventually get so much science it doesn't matter but that tends to be by the industrial era so it feels better than the real game.

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