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LOL @ AJ wanting to be Trump's personal pilot. Just loving perfect.
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mcmagic posted:LOL @ AJ wanting to be Trump's personal pilot. Just loving perfect. https://twitter.com/sopranosnocnxt/status/1092971425323831296
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"In Camelot" has one of my favorite closings to an episode. Tony telling made-up stories about his dad's mistress while his crew act very impressed, the strip club, the cigar smoke, the dark and depressing lighting. Of course, the music, too. Did not realize until recently it was Sessions by Linkin Park. Everyone looks awful in that scene. That whole episode has a nightmarish quality (the 'Happy Birthday' scene for example). I'm noticing that Season 5 is meaner and darker in general.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 17:30 |
It's funny when you go back to season one for a rewatch and the show is almost cartoonishly light in comparison. Is this your first watch through? Not really a spoiler, but it's only getting meaner from here on
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 17:57 |
Barry Foster posted:It's funny when you go back to season one for a rewatch and the show is almost cartoonishly light in comparison. University hoo boy.
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Barry Foster posted:It's funny when you go back to season one for a rewatch and the show is almost cartoonishly light in comparison. This is my first re-watch after ten years or so. Yes, I do recall S6 being the point where I actively rooted for many of the main characters to finally get whacked
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I'm noticing that Season 5 is meaner and darker in general. That turn, to me, feels like David Chase was really, really trying to make it clear to certain sections of the audience "Don't root for these people, dumb-dumbs." A battle he still lost.
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Barry Foster posted:It's funny when you go back to season one for a rewatch and the show is almost cartoonishly light in comparison. A friend of mine says that Season 1 of the Sopranos is like a USA show. It's so light compared to the rest of the show.
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JethroMcB posted:That turn, to me, feels like David Chase was really, really trying to make it clear to certain sections of the audience "Don't root for these people, dumb-dumbs." A battle he still lost. But Tony is one of those alpha male captain of industry types!
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Vichan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0JPQZs6mk This is a good example of something common in the show, that its almost a live action Chiaroscuro. The lighting is sooo dark, with really well done edge lighting so you can still see the characters but they all have extremely dramatic light gradients across their faces, and everything just fades into this inky black. I guess The Godfather basically did the same thing first so they're just riffing on that style for the dark seedy crime of the setting, but that poo poo can't be easy to pull off. You compare this to any other police procedural interrogation and its all different lights. Like compare that scene to this scene from Law & Order, which is also trying to go for the "dark" lighting look but doesn't achieve nearly as much dramatic lighting on the characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gdPXGTOM7U
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:
It's pretty much just the wheels coming off everything. No one really has their poo poo together and hardly anyone anyone makes it to retirement in the mob life. The central theme of the show to me is that mental health and being a gangster simply can't coincide (Melfi realizes this) so everything just culminates into a complete poo poo show and even trickles down (AJ's suicidal depression, Chris' drug problems, Phil's anger problems, Vito's murder, etc.) No one gets a happy ending except maybe Carmine. He was the hair apparent. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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JethroMcB posted:That turn, to me, feels like David Chase was really, really trying to make it clear to certain sections of the audience "Don't root for these people, dumb-dumbs." A battle he still lost. (i havent watched this video, it just showed up in my algorithm because of all the sopranos clips i watch, presumably, but i'm gonna take a big swing and guess it misses the point)
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I played the Sopranos pinball table over the weekend. It's an OK table, but it does have an animatronic fish so that definitely makes it worth checking out.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 01:43 |
BiggerBoat posted:He was the hair apparent. https://twitter.com/SopranosWorld/status/1384270098576265220?s=20 Jose Oquendo posted:I played the Sopranos pinball table over the weekend. It's an OK table, but it does have an animatronic fish so that definitely makes it worth checking out. i'll never get tired of watching Tony being driven into a rage by the Bigmouth Billy Bass.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 01:44 |
Nor Chrissy and Paulie laughing like Beavis and Butthead at it
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Barry Foster posted:Nor Chrissy and Paulie laughing like Beavis and Butthead at it I love that scene so much. Chris was literally ready to shoot Paulie in the head, and then 5 seconds later they’re losing it to a singing fish
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The amount of mileage the show got out of that loving singing fish is amazing.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 15:29 |
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Anyway, four dollars a pound.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 15:47 |
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What's incredible is that the Pussy dream fish was filmed before the Big Mouth Billy Bass came out.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 15:49 |
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Always weirds me out how Imperioli is only 5 years younger than Gandolfini was. He really pulls off being a young jackass well but he would have been 33 when the show started versus Gandoflini's 38. I don't know how old Chris is supposed to be when the show starts but he comes off as being early 20s at best with the way he's written.
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Ginette Reno posted:Always weirds me out how Imperioli is only 5 years younger than Gandolfini was. He really pulls off being a young jackass well but he would have been 33 when the show started versus Gandoflini's 38. I don't know how old Chris is supposed to be when the show starts but he comes off as being early 20s at best with the way he's written. Chris was 28-29 at the start of the series; the age gap between Chris and Tony was about a decade.
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JethroMcB posted:Chris was 28-29 at the start of the series; the age gap between Chris and Tony was about a decade. He mentions at one point that he wanted to hang out with 18-19 year old Tony B/S while he was 11.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The amount of mileage the show got out of that loving singing fish is amazing. I feel loving stupid because I was listening to the No loving Ziti podcast and always forget the fish/Big Pussy connection from Funhouse to the god damned Billy Bass and why it irks Tony so much. I know I know. It's one of the most obvious pieces of symbolism in the entire show and my dumb rear end just glosses over it. They're also going over how polarizing the dream sequences are in this show and I must be alone in absolutely loving all of them. Even The Test Dream. They FEEL like dreams and most of the time dream scenes in films are just shot as regular scenes only with a big jump scare or something. Chase makes them seem realistic and often expertly weaves in those "half asleep" ones that we've all had. People who dislike them seem to complain that they stall the plot but, to me, they accentuate it and ARE the plot. Funhouse in particular is totally on point describing Tony's issues to the point of being blatant ("Pussy on the brain"). I can't think of a dream scene I didn't like or that seemed hokey or forced. Edit I still listen to Talkin Sopranos and it's weird to me how much Michale Imperiolli believes in UFO's, holistic poo poo, ghosts and all sorts of weird YouTube poo poo. I bet he's fun to talk to and hang out with. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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The test dream is the best episode of the show. Or it would be if the coma episodes didn't exist.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 00:24 |
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The Sopranos does dreams better than almost any other show I can think of. They capture dream logic perfectly and almost perfectly emulate the actual experience/"feel" of a dream. I think the only one I didn't really like was the early Christopher dream where he's in Satriale's being haunted by Emil, it just felt like it was trying a little too hard.
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BiggerBoat posted:I still listen to Talkin Sopranos and it's weird to me how much Michale Imperiolli believes in UFO's, holistic poo poo, ghosts and all sorts of weird YouTube poo poo. I bet he's fun to talk to and hang out with. Half of it I think is just baiting Steve but he definitely is a lot more spiritual than I am
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codo27 posted:Half of it I think is just baiting Steve but he definitely is a lot more spiritual than I am I don't think so. He seems legit into some of that poo poo and offers a lot of it up as a simple matter of fact. "spiritual" doesn't seem to have much to do with it, listening to him. He's always like "look it up" and refuses to tell Steve about his seance experience or whatever it was because it was "too personal". It doesn't come off to me like he's loving with him and Scharripa's whole just having none of it seems to me that if Mike was loving with him, he'd push it and get even more weird with it.
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codo27 posted:Half of it I think is just baiting Steve but he definitely is a lot more spiritual than I am And that's not possible, even with computahs.
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 00:53 |
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Best part of the conspiracy/cryptid stuff Imperioli will suddenly bring up though is that it leads into wonderfully bizarre tangents like,"You know they got Napoleon's dick in a jar?"
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# ? Apr 21, 2021 00:55 |
i want to have a conversation with him in character as Chrissy about the Mothman.
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Then we get weird poo poo from Steve's end where he talks about "common knowledge that you can look up" about Milton Berle's giant cock or some such poo poo and Mike seems utterly bewildered. I think the podcast got off to rough start but seems to have found a groove and I really like the guests they bring on.
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uber_stoat posted:i want to have a conversation with him in character as Chrissy about the Mothman. Adrianna: "So he's like Batman? He beats up criminals and stuff?" Chrissy: "NO! Not like fuckin' Batman! He's like a winged harbing,.. har... whaddyacallit... magic 8-ball that flies up and tells you your bridge is gonna collapse." Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Dawgstar posted:Adrianna: "So he's like Batman? He beats up criminals and stuff?" Paulie: There ain't no loving Mothman, if there was he'd be bumping into lights all the loving time, there'd be loving freaks laid out on the ground each morning, they'd be sweeping 'em up off the street! Get the gently caress out of here! that night Paulie stares unsettled up at a streetlight as moths congregate around it, getting startled by a nearby sound
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BiggerBoat posted:They're also going over how polarizing the dream sequences are in this show and I must be alone in absolutely loving all of them. Even The Test Dream. They FEEL like dreams and most of the time dream scenes in films are just shot as regular scenes only with a big jump scare or something. Chase makes them seem realistic and often expertly weaves in those "half asleep" ones that we've all had. Most dreams were solid I think. Especially the shorter, earlier ones. The feverish nonsense of Tony setting himself on fire in Asbury Park, or the pure anxiety of Tony fumbling for bullets as they disintegrate in his hand. The dream where Tony is an immigrant stone mason is legit unsettling. The coma dream had its moments but it dragged out too long, and wound up spoon-feeding its symbolism. I liked that we got two episodes of how his crew deals with the uncertainty - Paulie's resentment, Sil's incompetence, Vito's pathetic scheming, but I got tired of the show hitting me over the head with Tony struggling with his lost identity (card).
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Snark posted:IIRC, some of the writing staff actually had issues with how often they leaned on dreams in later seasons. Robin Green and Mitchell Burress were the married writing team (and executive producers) that had been around since the beginning and they didn’t like the dream sequences to the point that they left after the coma dream episodes. The last episode they worked on was “Live Free or Die” and then they made Blue Bloods like a year or two later.
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the Dreams did give us some solid memes. i legit did not know that Silvio was in the E-street band until i had already watched the show once and was reading a bunch of supplementary material.
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Kinda like me growing up not thinking anything of Jerry Reed in Smoky & the Bandit until I started playing guitar
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uber_stoat posted:the Dreams did give us some solid memes. The character of Silvio was written specifically for Little Steven when Chase saw his performance inducting someone into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I forget who.
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1384899383100121089
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uber_stoat posted:the Dreams did give us some solid memes. That's so wild to me because him being Springsteen's guitar player was ALL I knew him from. And I don't even like Springsteen. Pope Corky the IX posted:The character of Silvio was written specifically for Little Steven when Chase saw his performance inducting someone into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I forget who. I thought I read that he was considered for Tony?
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